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good stuff ;D :S

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bad stuff :7 :X

Finally tried some of the stuff. Captain D's caused a nagging stomache ache but other than that the stuff is great. Can't wait for the 2ci

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:)

How was the body load? Do you like tryptamines?

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Body load wasn't bad. Felt a little weak at times. Stomachace from Captain D's is a bit annoying. I put 20mg in a cap and popped it, made a couple more for friends, then cleaned off the scale and tweezers. I was the first one to feel the effects, seeing ---- move and nice colors. Looks just like you'd expect it to. Gave the others a couple extra mg after I was tripping for a while and they weren't feeling nothing (I think it's because I was on an empty stomach and "cleaned" the tools). Well they're still tripping pretty good and I'm just seeing my text dancing around the screen. I like phenethylamines!

Tryptamines? Haven't tried yet :( Waiting for the Phalaris Arundicea is done growing so I can get myself some good ol' 5-MeO-DMT :D Hurry up damn grass :7

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hhmmm...interesting..sounds like something id enjoy...

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FT ----------ing W.

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Eh, 5-MeO variant sucks goat wang. Somewhere along the line Erowid and others changed their tune, they used to state that most people found 5-MeO unpleasant. I thought arundicea was straight n,n-DMT? Anyway, I digress. You, sir, require my favorite tryptamine, TMA-2. It's a very spatial experience, like a mild dose of mescaline, with faint lovey overtones of MDA.

If you get off on smart drugs, I was a big fan of selegiline hcl and harmaline hcl. The combo didn't last long, harmine/harmaline is a bit hard to come by. Selegiline has some pro-sexual/aphrodesiac properties in some people, didn't do anything for me by the gf at that time liked it.

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man 8 years ago... when i was a kid... the coolest thing we did was x and that ---- sucks... always rbbing the ---- out of your self and when we would go to raves (yes i will admit i went to a few raves at the bronco bowl in texas) you would never know the person you are buying from so you never knew how good or bad it was going to be... and most times it was bad... so i stuck to acid... it was much easier to get and no one else wanted it so it only cost me 5 dollars a hit... and some times 10 bucks for a 4 or 5 ...

this ---- you guys are talking about (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-T-2) is way new to me... never even heard of it... i guess its like a dirivative of mdma ... so in a few years it will be illegal once some one dies from it... and if no one does... then it wont be illegal until a senetors daughter gets cought sucking off the neighbors son for drug money and they will blame it on this new found horrible drug and not the fact that the parents dont teach there kids ---- these days...

well good luck with your adventures i hope one do i get to test this ---- out...

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It's already illegal, it's been illegal since they took Abby Hoffman to court over ALD-52.

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oh... ---- i need to get back into being bad and enjoy some of this ----...

see what 4 years of the military and its stupid random drug testing gets ya...

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Well, the 2C variants were just recently scheduled by the DEA. Before then, you could get them through online purchases for "research" and of course, "not for human consumption."

JD, I'll try to find it again later, but I'm pretty sure I read on erowid that the grass has the "good" dmt. I was worried that I got stuff with the "bad" dmt but I remember looking more into it and finding out that I didn't. I'll try to post a link later when I find it again.

Looking forward to the tryptamines though :y Not sure where I'm going to get some but I'm going to look. Hermaline is the MAOI people like to use in combination with different tryptamines isn't it? Ayahausca (sp?) brews use it with dmt producing plants? I'll look it up again later when I get to work.

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wow...this is allnew to me...sounds like a good time tho...guess ill google it and read

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Harmaline is a hallucenogen in and of itself, but not at the doses I took it. I forget if it is a MAOI or not. Selegiline only partially inhibits at low doses, then becomes a full MAOI at higher dosage.

Some phalaris has bufotenine, if forget the exact name for it but it is neither n,n-dimethytryptamine nor 5-MeO-etc. Lot of body load for me, or overawareness of my meatspace, I dislike. 2CB, for example, freaks me out.

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www.erowid.org is my personal favorite "drug research" site. I look up everything before I try it :y

JD - Yeah I remember reading about bufotenine somewhere. It's a chemical that is in some of the grass that people guess is what causes the "bad trips." 2CB, haven't tried and if I do it'll be a small dose. ~25mg of 2C-T-2 wasn't bad at all and I wouldn't mind 30-35mg next time. Have any experience with 2CI?

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yes i agree, thats a good site..i remember going there before i started growing mushrooms....somehow it never ended up in my favorite places...thanks!

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drugs-forum.com = HMT of drug forums

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I always liked The Hive, but I believe it's defunct now. ;)


Fixed it for you.

You'd probably like 2CB a LOT, most people do. It's a body buzz instead of a head buzz, and the reason people love it is the reason I don't like it.

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I like mind altering drugs :6 And yeah, I looked into the phalaris on erowid. The only species with bufotenine and 5-MeO-DMT is philaris tuberosa, it also has DMT. 5-MeO-DMT is more potent than DMT but also doesn't produce the halluciinations (and I like the hallucinations). Philaris Arundinacea (the kind I'm growing) only has DMT.

Check out:
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_...l/tihkal.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_...l/pihkal.shtml

I'm probably going to buy them both.

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Wasn't there one in that series for Quilones as well?

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Nope don't think so. Have only heard of pihkal and tihkal. Wonder how to get more of these chemicals.

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Well, maybe this link will give you ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hive_(website)

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Hm that's gay about the site being closed. I think I am going to get the books Huson wrote about synthesis. Wouldn't mind learning a little chemistry... I love psychoactive ----.