God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
10-01-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by random-strike
and you would know this after the bomb explodes?
do you have to use special equipment during the explosion to catch this?
would that equipment be in place?
just asking a few questions here...
why does iran need nuclear energy when they sit on one of the biggest oil/natural gas deposits in the world? isn't nuclear power evil anyways? oh thats only if the united states uses it...
do you have to use special equipment during the explosion to catch this?
would that equipment be in place?
just asking a few questions here...
why does iran need nuclear energy when they sit on one of the biggest oil/natural gas deposits in the world? isn't nuclear power evil anyways? oh thats only if the united states uses it...
Iran seeks nuclear energy because they lack the infrastructure to process crude oil into anything.
Noone here has said that the United States is evil for using Nuclear Energy... I do believe it's been questioned before why we're so worried about other countries developing nuclear weapons when we're not following nuclear weapon's treaties ourselves...
10-01-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by stevenb
Pretty much.
RS, stick your foot in your mouth. Your O'Reilly like tactics of debating are exposing your lack of intelligence.
Just because the bomb went nuclear and was destroyed doesn't mean that the bomb will not leave radioactive material all over the site.
just because rawr and stevenb say its possible i'd like to know.
and rawr, would special equipment have to be in place during the explosion to know this?
post some links id like to know more.
btw, which are we not following?
10-01-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by random-strike
ok, post some links stating this is possible, i haven't found any and i would like to know more about it.
just because rawr and stevenb say its possible i'd like to know.
and rawr, would special equipment have to be in place during the explosion to know this?
post some links id like to know more.
btw, which are we not following?
just because rawr and stevenb say its possible i'd like to know.
and rawr, would special equipment have to be in place during the explosion to know this?
post some links id like to know more.
btw, which are we not following?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_n16818559
http://www.llnl.gov/str/March05/Hutcheon.html
And.. the NPT
http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/
http://www.state.gov/t/us/rm/31848.htm
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10-01-2007, 06:21 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
as far as i know the proper terminology is nuclear signature.. and that involves a ---- ton of different indicators..
kinda like the former kgb assasination thing.. he was killed with a radioactive element and it was traced back to russian government labs and ----
kinda like the former kgb assasination thing.. he was killed with a radioactive element and it was traced back to russian government labs and ----
10-01-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
sounds like is possible but not entirely 100%
it sounds like they have a list or database of already known nuclear material, but they couldn't identify nuclear material that is new and is unknown....
it sounds like they have a list or database of already known nuclear material, but they couldn't identify nuclear material that is new and is unknown....
Today, the technological prerequisite for rethinking the unthinkable is nuclear forensics: the ability to identify a bomb's source from radioactive debris left after it explodes. Building on Cold War techniques, the Pentagon has developed new methods for collecting samples from ground zero, measuring data such as isotopic ratios and the efficiency of the fuel burn in the detonation, and comparing that information to known nuclear data to determine the origin of the materials.
Much about foreign nuclear materials is already known, collected from Cold War military tests, commercial transactions, scientific exchanges, and covert means. But the recent debate about the uranium hexafluoride that Libya turned over after renouncing its nuclear-weapons program illustrates gaps in our knowledge. The U.S. intelligence community believes that North Korea was the source; however, according to informed press reports, it reached that determination by the process of elimination -- not by identifying the uranium directly, but rather by ruling out other known sources.
The goal of a robust nuclear forensics program must be to identify nuclear material definitively and quickly. The 2002 study by the National Research Council Making the Nation Safer: The Role of Science and Technology in Countering Terrorism concluded that "The technology for developing [postexplosion nuclear attribution] exists but needs to be assembled, an effort that is expected to take several years." Establishing this capability should be a top priority, since effective deterrence requires convincing potential perps that the United States will be able to identify the culprit.
Much about foreign nuclear materials is already known, collected from Cold War military tests, commercial transactions, scientific exchanges, and covert means. But the recent debate about the uranium hexafluoride that Libya turned over after renouncing its nuclear-weapons program illustrates gaps in our knowledge. The U.S. intelligence community believes that North Korea was the source; however, according to informed press reports, it reached that determination by the process of elimination -- not by identifying the uranium directly, but rather by ruling out other known sources.
The goal of a robust nuclear forensics program must be to identify nuclear material definitively and quickly. The 2002 study by the National Research Council Making the Nation Safer: The Role of Science and Technology in Countering Terrorism concluded that "The technology for developing [postexplosion nuclear attribution] exists but needs to be assembled, an effort that is expected to take several years." Establishing this capability should be a top priority, since effective deterrence requires convincing potential perps that the United States will be able to identify the culprit.
10-01-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by random-strike
sounds like is possible but not entirely 100%
it sounds like they have a list or database of already known nuclear material, but they couldn't identify nuclear material that is new and is unknown....
it sounds like they have a list or database of already known nuclear material, but they couldn't identify nuclear material that is new and is unknown....
Point being, Iran would be the first to blame if a nuclear device were to be detonated by any terrorist organization.
I think the world agrees that there isn't any incentive there for them to do such a thing as allow a nuclear device or enriched uranium from them be built in a nuclear device. That is why the world could give a ---- about Iran at this point in time.
Iran might be run by stupid dictators. But they have at least a shred of self preservation.
10-01-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by stevenb
Sure they could. Iran is openly allowing inspections of their nuclear reactors and facilities. The IEAAIEIEIEIAIEIA has already collected dozens of nuclear samples from their reactors.
Point being, Iran would be the first to blame if a nuclear device were to be detonated by any terrorist organization.
I think the world agrees that there isn't any incentive there for them to do such a thing as allow a nuclear device or enriched uranium from them be built in a nuclear device. That is why the world could give a ---- about Iran at this point in time.
Point being, Iran would be the first to blame if a nuclear device were to be detonated by any terrorist organization.
I think the world agrees that there isn't any incentive there for them to do such a thing as allow a nuclear device or enriched uranium from them be built in a nuclear device. That is why the world could give a ---- about Iran at this point in time.
but if they attack israel we should let israel destory them, and we should help them out if possible.
do you think we should destory iran if they launched a nuclear attack on israel and israel was unable to respond?
did you hear about the poll on some leftist website, asking if imajerkamajad or president bush was the better president, and 50% of them said imajerkamajad. its interesting how leftists can totally disregard all the things iran, and islamic facists do that is supposedly totally against all their beliefs, just because they are enemies of the US.
10-01-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by random-strike
we are not going to attack iran.
but if they attack israel we should let israel destory them, and we should help them out if possible.
do you think we should destory iran if they launched a nuclear attack on israel and israel was unable to respond?
but if they attack israel we should let israel destory them, and we should help them out if possible.
do you think we should destory iran if they launched a nuclear attack on israel and israel was unable to respond?
If they attack israel, then yes we should let israel destroy them. Israel is more than capable of defending themselves in the middle east. If anything I've said it before and I'll say it again.. We're not protecting Israel from the middle east, we're protecting the middle east from Israel.
If Iran launched a nuclear strike on Israel the United States wouldn't have to worry about ----. The european nations would gear up for war, and NATO / the UN would deal with Iran. Granted we'd probably send troops to help their efforts, but the "war" that would ensue wouldn't be on our dime, and we wouldn't be responsible for cleaning it up when it was over.
Modified because of your quote you edited in.
Most leftists, and Rightists are sheep. They blindly follow whatever their political party states. Yes, I'm looking right at you when I make this statement. You do the same with your bullshit the **** are trying to take over the world thing. That's neither here nor there... I think it's been proven a couple times the intelligence of the general population of the United States is that of a 6th grader. At that point it doesn't really matter what they say, do, or stand for.. it's whether they look pretty, or not.
10-01-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by random-strike
we are not going to attack iran.
but if they attack israel we should let israel destory them
but if they attack israel we should let israel destory them
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=745_1191155895
even when israel invaded lebanon last year in retaliation to the rocket attacks and cross border raid
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ast/index.html
The Israeli Cabinet authorized "severe and harsh" retaliation on Lebanon after Hezbollah guerillas kidnapped two soldiers and killed three others in a cross-border raid Wednesday.
Israel's chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, told Israel's Channel 10, "If the soldiers are not returned, we will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years."
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israeli_solders.html
in palestine
http://www3.whdh.com/news/articles/world/BO34820/
Israel steps up Gaza offensive but fails to slow Palestinian rocket fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Is...banon_conflict
im sure youll love the facts of that war
they didnt even get the soldiers that they claim were kidnapped did they?
heh...
yet everyone i ask thinks israel won the war? even ------- arabs.. haha
thats a rag tag militia for ya now imagine what iran would be like
10-01-2007, 07:23 PM
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Re: God damn airmen fucked up Bush's attack on Iran. haha.
Originally Posted by buk9tp
