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confUsed 07-22-2008 08:30 PM

G-tech for tuning?
 
I dont have lots of options when it comes to dyno tuning where I live. I have a turbo d16 running ectune, which I now have street tuned myself. This is my first turbo setup, and also my very first tune. I have tried to get as much info as possible about reading spark plugs, and also made some diy det cans, but I have no real world experience, so I still feel very unsure when it comes to tuning timing, and what to look/listen for.

Now I read about the gtech pro rr which is able to give you a torque curve based on both rpm and gforce, and download it to your computer for comparision. I know the actual numbers are depending on factors like weight, wind resistance of the car, gear ratio, etc, so it will probably not be correct, but its the comparision of two different graphs done at the same road in the same gear but with different timing thats interesting to me. If its accurate enough to show me where the "flat spot" is, it would really help me out. Has anyone tried one of these, or is it just pure bullshit?

hondacivc93 07-22-2008 08:48 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
youre going to try and TUNE with it? sell your g-tech and buy a ------- wideband

Tom-Guy 07-22-2008 08:50 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
Sell your car and buy an education.

idiot-stick 07-22-2008 09:21 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
crank up the boost and go WOT at 3rd gear. Lick your finger and stick it out the window. if your finger gets colder, you are running lean and you should loosen the vice grips that are crimping your return line.

Guy-Fast 07-22-2008 09:35 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
Install a zc and dont worry about having to tune it

SkunT 07-22-2008 09:46 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by chris
Install a zc and dont worry about having to tune it


I think im going to give that a try.

Guy-Fast 07-22-2008 09:48 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer

I think im going to give that a try.

With the extra money you can eat orange chicken for days

SkunT 07-22-2008 09:49 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
even better. ;D

confUsed 07-23-2008 07:33 AM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
Lol, yeah, thanks O0

I have a LC-1. I have no gtech. I understand I cant tune my car using the gtech, I just wanted some semi-decent tool to get some kind of torque graphs when the dyno is not an option. Guess its a no-no :1

rprznt 07-23-2008 08:32 AM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
just street tune it noob shitbag :1

USS 07-23-2008 11:05 AM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
LC-1 + det can = win

confUsed 07-23-2008 12:54 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
LC-1 + det can = win


OK, I'll just continue with doing that, then :y

bigdaddyvtec 07-23-2008 01:25 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
die

seerex 07-23-2008 01:41 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
DIE!!!

Fix :6

Jorsher 07-23-2008 01:44 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
is this an iteration of cornfuzed?

buk9tp 07-23-2008 01:57 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by Jorsher
is this an iteration of cornfuzed?

naaa english isnt his first language

cornfuzed is what you get with generations of inbreeding..

i think this guy just stumbled upon some misinformation.. and the hmt bandwagon is taking it out on him

buk9tp 07-23-2008 02:01 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
damn! he does have a build thread
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...hp?topic=94843

video
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...t=heat3768.flv

HMTguy 07-23-2008 02:09 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
I totally thought this was cornfused at first as well

Tom-Guy 07-23-2008 02:39 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
I totally thought this was cornfused at first as well

+1

confUsed 07-23-2008 05:13 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by jay
and the hmt bandwagon is taking it out on him

Well, that wasnt a big surprise anyway... :1

I dont know who cornfuzed is, so I'll just continue rambling/digging myself deeper into the dirt. I came across a program that uses just an rpm pickup to plot a torque graph.
http://www.powerdyn.fr/English/PowerDyn.html
Again, if I get two similar runs in a gear high enough to avoid wheelspin, is there any way that the torque graph comparision is worth anything, or is this just pure bullshit too? Should be pretty simple math. It wold have been sweet to have something to help me except from my detcan, cause I dont even know how detonation sounds like :1
I'd really like to go to the dyno, but last time it cost me half the price of my whole turbo setup for 1,5 hours and I had to take a day off, so its really not an option everytime I change out something.

confUsed 07-23-2008 05:14 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
sorry, double post...

USS 07-23-2008 05:24 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
Bull ---- bull ---- bull ----. If you can't afford the 50 dollars for 3 pulls at most shops, then you shouldn't be buying these stupid pieces of junk that don't do a god damn thing.

Street tune with your LC1/Det can as best as you can. You "should" be able to hear detonation with the cans, assuming you've placed it on an appropriate place on you engine. Once you have the a/f down and you think your timing is on, go to a local place and just get 3 pulls. Tweak the timing a bit in either direction, keep and eye on a/f and see if you make more/less power.

SlowCivicHB 07-23-2008 05:35 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
Bull ---- bull ---- bull ----. If you can't afford the 50 dollars for 3 pulls at most shops, then you shouldn't be buying these stupid pieces of junk that don't do a god damn thing.

Street tune with your LC1/Det can as best as you can. You "should" be able to hear detonation with the cans, assuming you've placed it on an appropriate place on you engine. Once you have the a/f down and you think your timing is on, go to a local place and just get 3 pulls. Tweak the timing a bit in either direction, keep and eye on a/f and see if you make more/less power.

50 bux for 3 pulls??! :o... where you livin at nigga?

confUsed 07-23-2008 05:39 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
Bull ---- bull ---- bull ----. If you can't afford the 50 dollars for 3 pulls at most shops, then you shouldn't be buying these stupid pieces of junk that don't do a god damn thing.

Street tune with your LC1/Det can as best as you can. You "should" be able to hear detonation with the cans, assuming you've placed it on an appropriate place on you engine. Once you have the a/f down and you think your timing is on, go to a local place and just get 3 pulls. Tweak the timing a bit in either direction, keep and eye on a/f and see if you make more/less power.

Ok, I'll stick to my detcan. Wish I lived near a place where I could get some pulls for 50 dollars, though. Around here once I get the car strapped down to the dyno I'm out 350 already. Thats why I'm looking for alternatives (which doesnt seem to exist :1)

buk9tp 07-23-2008 05:51 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
350 to get strapped in wtf :3

USS 07-23-2008 05:56 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
I know a local shop owner who I shoot the ---- with on occasion and that's what he told me. Upon looking at their site it is 75 dollars for 3 pulls and they let you tweak/minor tuning in between.

hondacivc93 07-23-2008 05:57 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
around here we get 2 hours of straight tuning with unlimited pulls for 250! ---- if id ever pay 350 to get strapped. sounds like they got a monopoly on that ---- or something

confUsed 07-23-2008 07:38 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
Hell yeah its ripoff. But thats the way it works here I guess, only rich guys or people who know people gets to play on the dyno >:(

CspecRun 07-23-2008 07:56 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 
The most local dyno around here is like $85 for three pulls with AFR's. Not too bad I don't guess...I need to jump on that ---- myself.

TunerToys 07-23-2008 10:03 PM

Re: G-tech for tuning?
 

Originally Posted by confUsed
Now I read about the gtech pro rr

I bought one of these when it came out, neat idea, works okay, just not a real tuning tool. Save the money to spend on a trip to a real tuner with a dyno.

Good luck,

Craig


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