Originally Posted by ComputerJLT

let me tell you a story.
I used to work at RadioShack.. worst job ever.. There we sold a BUNCH of different cables/connectors/converters/adapters/etc. Just about every part we sold we had a good better best version. The "best" was a name brand gold plated fancy packaged over advertised hyped up device that did something simple like get a signal from a VCR to a TV. the "better" had all the features of the best but no hype packaging or extra bullshit. The "good" got the job done.
Three levels of "quality" selling for three VERY different prices, for example a 6' rca patch cable, best version went for nearly FIFTY DOLLARS; "better" went for about $15-20 and the good went for $6. Unless you were in a laboratory you could not tell the three cables apart but your wallet sure as ---- could.
We had to sell the "best" ones because it's cost is mostly proffit; nearly 90% on cables and accessories like that. Stupid people bought into the hype and thought they were somehow better than the other cables... Other sensible people bought the mid or low level cables and were just as satisfied. See where i'm going with this.

Full-ripoff is no different, they have the "best" product, it gets the job done; has name recognition that gives all the pay2play ricers get their genital enlargement and is no doubt a quality kit. They have all the fancy packaging, tons of hype and more propaganda than 1950s America saying it's the best and your penis will fall off if you dont buy f-r. Its a simple turbocharger kit. Turns wasted exhaust energy into air being forced into an internal combustion engine. Their kits cost ~ $5k while a DIY kit costs a FRACTION of that; and i'm not talking about an HF mani and 14b. there is NO reason to pay THAT MUCH for a kit when you could piece one together for half or less.
Good flowing manifold + wastegate + big turbo + intercooler + plumbing = turbo kit

Now it is true there are some awful products out there and some horribly performing pieces on the market but i'm not talking about those so dont even get on that wagon.

/edit: and for those of you wondering why I always rag on full-ripoff its because they are a ripoff. I know their product is quality and they probably stand behind it; for the price they ------- better THEN SOME. The reason I hate them so much is the same reason I hated selling the "best" at radio-shack. I was LYING to people saying they NEEDED that and that if they DIDNT have it bad things would happen. That wears at your soul when you're dishonest like that. You dont need a $5k turbo kit put together with some plumbing joints; a few flanges; some off the shelf parts and some stainless pipe with purdy welds when you're boosting your shop swapped stock ass GSR in an EG hatch :1 </hondatechbandwagonsetup>

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic

lol like three times faster. if you wanna measure the displacement of both motors the SAME way it would be a 2.6 versus a 1.6

Originally Posted by Stealthmode

Some of the full race stuff doesn't do anything better than a similar item (couplers with full race printed on them), but they don't skimp on even the cheap parts that you *could* skimp on.