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People pay it why not charge it

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oh yeah, like who?????

please tell me how and why, in detail who can do so (I did go to school fo rthis kind of stuff) so i would like to be educated a little more

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I dont see what the big deal with hating Full Race is.There product is top notch and better then most on the market and the people that want to buy a kit,want the best and aren't into bulding there own pay for it.Who cares.

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Lol.. if you know how the engines work you can double that rotary value and still be right. The rotors spin just a weee bit faster then the crank..

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You didnt hate the kid who was always better than you? I sure as ---- did. Inner Jealousy

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lol like three times faster. if you wanna measure the displacement of both motors the SAME way it would be a 2.6 versus a 1.6

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Full-Race is badass in my book. They run a good business, make a good product. Yes, they're a bit pricey, but hey, you pay for quality. Plus, any company who rides is awesome in my book >:D

Sucks that the coupler ripped, but ---- happens. At least they wern't little bitches about it.

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http://www.full-race.com/prototype/b...kspainted3.jpg

i know Dave will like this one.... ;)

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let me tell you a story.
I used to work at RadioShack.. worst job ever.. There we sold a BUNCH of different cables/connectors/converters/adapters/etc. Just about every part we sold we had a good better best version. The "best" was a name brand gold plated fancy packaged over advertised hyped up device that did something simple like get a signal from a VCR to a TV. the "better" had all the features of the best but no hype packaging or extra bullshit. The "good" got the job done.
Three levels of "quality" selling for three VERY different prices, for example a 6' rca patch cable, best version went for nearly FIFTY DOLLARS; "better" went for about $15-20 and the good went for $6. Unless you were in a laboratory you could not tell the three cables apart but your wallet sure as ---- could.
We had to sell the "best" ones because it's cost is mostly proffit; nearly 90% on cables and accessories like that. Stupid people bought into the hype and thought they were somehow better than the other cables... Other sensible people bought the mid or low level cables and were just as satisfied. See where i'm going with this.

Full-ripoff is no different, they have the "best" product, it gets the job done; has name recognition that gives all the pay2play ricers get their genital enlargement and is no doubt a quality kit. They have all the fancy packaging, tons of hype and more propaganda than 1950s America saying it's the best and your penis will fall off if you dont buy f-r. Its a simple turbocharger kit. Turns wasted exhaust energy into air being forced into an internal combustion engine. Their kits cost ~ $5k while a DIY kit costs a FRACTION of that; and i'm not talking about an HF mani and 14b. there is NO reason to pay THAT MUCH for a kit when you could piece one together for half or less.
Good flowing manifold + wastegate + big turbo + intercooler + plumbing = turbo kit

Now it is true there are some awful products out there and some horribly performing pieces on the market but i'm not talking about those so dont even get on that wagon.

/edit: and for those of you wondering why I always rag on full-ripoff its because they are a ripoff. I know their product is quality and they probably stand behind it; for the price they ------- better THEN SOME. The reason I hate them so much is the same reason I hated selling the "best" at radio-shack. I was LYING to people saying they NEEDED that and that if they DIDNT have it bad things would happen. That wears at your soul when you're dishonest like that. You dont need a $5k turbo kit put together with some plumbing joints; a few flanges; some off the shelf parts and some stainless pipe with purdy welds when you're boosting your shop swapped stock ass GSR in an EG hatch :1 </hondatechbandwagonsetup>

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Now thats taking zip ties to the next level, hahah. Stitched zips, badass.

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Is this episode on the net anywhere? I NEED IT!!

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Welcome to the business world, home of insensitive people that just want to make money any way possible.

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Werd, oh and pinks is not the new hotness. All the ------- cars they bring on there now fall apart and most of them they put together in a week just to race the ----.

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no. the ecc shaft spins faster than the rotors. its displacement is actually 1.3 liters, but people say 2.6 so it can compete in the same race classes, and according to fueling , its a 3. something. lol.

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The rotors spin at 1/3 the speed of the shaft. That is why they can rev up so much. 9000rpms = 3000rpm rotor speed.

Also the "1.3" is really a 2.6 liter motor. The reason why is that the idiots who claim 1.3 only measured the displacement while the rotor is in there. That is like measuring the displacement of a piston engine with the pistons in there, DER DER DER, half the size. :1

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Some of the full race stuff doesn't do anything better than a similar item (couplers with full race printed on them), but they don't skimp on even the cheap parts that you *could* skimp on.
Of course a diy'er can put a kit together cheaper, but the other half of the cost is the service of the kit. The service of a company that can put it all together for you, and you don't have to think about anything for yourself.

Guidelines to making money for any company:

-You have the wholesale price on lock (nobody can buy it as cheap as you)

-You have a dumb customer (customer doesn't know what they need)

-YOu have a lazy customer (customer is too lazy or not willing to research where to get it cheaper)

-You have a rich customer (really doesn't care how much it is, only that it's the best. The lazy and dumb thing also usuallly apply.)

There you go. ;)

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ComputerJLT- seriously what is your issue with full-race?

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for anyone that wants to download the eppisode, go here.

http://members.cox.net/tatsuko/pinks...de.wmv.torrent

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their lsvtec dowels are the most generic thing i have ever seen come out of there shop, they are seriously ghetto

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they used stock sleeves and from what the site said it would barely run for the third run. They built a car to lose

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can you read retard?

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So you hate every other company out there? They're trying to sell a product and do a damn good job of it. What's wrong with that? Just because you worked for a national chain of stores and had a bad experience doesn't mean that that's what a company like full race does ::)

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Read the newspapers folks. People that make money are bad. :S

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ya right, if it was blown up it there would've been a cloud of smoke behind the car.

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LOL

1.3L that equals about 2.6 @ 10,000 rpms daily vs. 1.6L that equals 1.6L @ 7500 rpms daily. yeah really fair

NEUMAN

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Full-Race handled theirselfs very respectabally on teh show and through the build, and it oviously worked as good advertising because i hardly knew about the company before i started follwoing the build, now I think their good enough to get some of my business in the future, They put a lot of money into R&D and if you dont think trying to push 400+ hp in a d-series is r&d i dont know what is, the fact that they ripped a coupler then went and stopped selling them and started using a better product shows a lot, they easily could have said that it was improper installation and they ripped it because they were rushing, but they didnt


I think anyone who does R&D will always get less repect than deserved for what they do in educating the rest of us about hwo well or shitty something works, take hotsex's devcon block filling for an example

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Judging by ComputerJLT's reasons to hate Full-race I'm guessing he's the type of person that shops at Payless and buys clothes at K-Mart

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Probably, they make good stuff. Will i buy it? nope. No sense in hating on a company that makes ---- that people buy, sure they have a lot of hype but ---- their making money. I see no reason for you to hate on them unless they sold something crappy and didnt fix it. But i dont see you spending that kinda money on their stuff.

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Link was working yesterday, its slow though.

http://flobb.gameservercenter.com/pinksfullepisode.wmv