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Jorsher 01-03-2007 06:38 PM

Fuck honda
 
Ok, so I decide to change headgasket/timing belt before trading the car, since i had another head that's in better condition to put on too. Everything was going fine until we got to the crank pulley.

First of all, ----------ing 97 civic has two brackets covering the flywheel cover. One of the bolts I can't get to because it's right above the exhaust piping. I decided to just take off the two bolts that went through the flywheel cover. Well, one came off with a little work, the other ended up getting stripped by the socket because it wouldn't come off. ----------er.

So, I just pried the damn cover open and bent it all to hell. After eating one screwdriver and a few attempts, we got one wedged in there good.

Started on the crank pulley bolt. Broke a ratchet. ----. Used another and cracked the socket down the middle. ----. Had another 17mm and had to use a coupler on that, but also tore the bumper and plastic ---- on the bottom, and windshield wiper fluid ---- out the way so I didn't have to use as many extensions. ------- coupler broke. So now I'm going to buy some more ------- 17mm sockets.

Anyone have some tips on removing this? Out of the many times I've had to take them off before, it's never been this much trouble.

Anyone have a clue how I can get the ------- timing belt back on without removing the crank pulley?

------- honda.

d16forlife 01-03-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Anyone have a clue how I can get the ------- timing belt back on without removing the crank pulley?

Gasoline+match. ^-^

JonDouglas 01-03-2007 06:57 PM

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Impact wrench and/or the crank pulley holding tool.

Or you could just cut the new timing belt to get it around the crank and glue it back together. :1

mycrx 01-03-2007 07:00 PM

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your ------- stupid for using a ratchet, use a goddam breaker bar ive done this many times and its a bitch but ---- dont go prying on this and jamming on that...---- just sell your car if you dont have the patients to do it right

D15Bastard 01-03-2007 07:02 PM

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I used to use a breaker bar. and then I would give it a good hit with a 5 lbs lil sledge to get the bolt to break loose.

then I bought an impact.

Jorsher 01-03-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mycrx
your ------- stupid for using a ratchet, use a goddam breaker bar ive done this many times and its a bitch but ---- dont go prying on this and jamming on that...---- just sell your car if you dont have the patients to do it right

Dumb ---- go kill yourself.

I have a breaker bar and was using that with the ratchet that broke.

Go ---- yourself before you die.

Oh and dumbass, if you don't have the crank pulley tool one of the "suggested" ways of stopping the pulley from turning is to stick something in the flywheel. Go to hell.

Btw it's patience, not patients. "patients" are like the little boys you send to the doctor with ass herpes.

RobertPadron 01-03-2007 07:12 PM

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do it right use a breaker bar. they cost less than $20.

cberman 01-03-2007 07:22 PM

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Grab a set of the craftsman damaged bolt socket sets for those flywheel bolts...works amazing...had to get a sety just today for a pain in the ass bolt on a jetta...worked right away on a bolt that socket was even gripping anymore

mycrx 01-03-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Dumb ---- go kill yourself.

I have a breaker bar and was using that with the ratchet that broke.

Go ---- yourself before you die.

Oh and dumbass, if you don't have the crank pulley tool one of the "suggested" ways of stopping the pulley from turning is to stick something in the flywheel. Go to hell.

Btw it's patience, not patients. "patients" are like the little boys you send to the doctor with ass herpes.


haha, ive never seen someone use a breaker bar and ratchet at the same time, your a ------- idiot kid, take the goddam starter off and wow your ------- flywheel is right there, now stfu

fork 01-03-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Dumb ---- go kill yourself.

I have a breaker bar and was using that with the ratchet that broke.


wow you obviously either don't know what a ratchet is or don't know what a breaker bar is. In either case you just made you self look incredibly stupid.

Furthermore, what you are doing is very easy and you are a sally if you can't figure it out

J-SMITH69 01-03-2007 08:06 PM

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spray it down with something

use a big ass breaker bar on it.

they are a pain but ive gotten them off everytime

scottsi 01-03-2007 08:09 PM

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impact gun, air tools, get them

ryan89crx 01-03-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fork
wow you obviously either don't know what a ratchet is or don't know what a breaker bar is. In either case you just made you self look incredibly stupid.

i think he might mean cheater-pipe

ive always used an impact gun and have never had an issue getting the bolt off on several different motors

ichbinsobose 01-03-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
---- honda.

:y

1slow91 01-03-2007 08:59 PM

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hit that bitch with a torch and then the cheater/breaker bar and that fucker will be off :6

J-SMITH69 01-03-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow91HF
hit that bitch with a torch and then the cheater/breaker bar and that fucker will be off :6

that works too

i forgot that i took my last one to a shop where they worked on tractor trailers. he said he had his air system "illegally" at 1000psi

said itd shatter or come off, and it came off lol

asianpoet 01-03-2007 10:10 PM

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i use a cheater pipe on my breaker bar for added leverage. which is the bar for my floor jack

B16MIKE 01-03-2007 10:11 PM

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USE a 17mm impact socket with breaker bar w/cheater pipe over that.Use a chain wrench to wrap around the crank pulley to keep it from turning and go to work.

JDMFantasy2K 01-03-2007 10:12 PM

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here it is

get a jack and a block of wood, position it in front of the brake assembly. Hold the flywheel good. Get like a 10" extension, longer is better, good socket, then get a good half inch ratchet or breaker bar and throw a pipe on it. Gauranteed to work or break something :6

Jorsher 01-03-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fork
wow you obviously either don't know what a ratchet is or don't know what a breaker bar is. In either case you just made you self look incredibly stupid.

Furthermore, what you are doing is very easy and you are a sally if you can't figure it out

like the other guy said i meant a cheater bar, i had a pipe on a ratchet, ---- technicalities.

Like i ------- said I've done it many times before and never had this much trouble. This ones being a bitch. It broke a goddamn craftsman socket.

Now I have a new socket, a 1/2 breaker bar, and a cheater pipe and am about to go at it with a torch. Hope you feel better now that I'm using the proper terminology.

RotaryGeek 01-03-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2K
here it is

get a jack and a block of wood, position it in front of the brake assembly. Hold the flywheel good. Get like a 10" extension, longer is better, good socket, then get a good half inch ratchet or breaker bar and throw a pipe on it. Gauranteed to work or break something :6


That sounds like a great way to hurt yourself or something else. use a impact or a breaker bar with a cheater pipe. or if you have to, slowly lower the jack so the wieght of the car actually loosen's the bolt with out you doing any work.

J-SMITH69 01-03-2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RotaryGeek

That sounds like a great way to hurt yourself or something else. use a impact or a breaker bar with a cheater pipe. or if you have to, slowly lower the jack so the wieght of the car actually loosen's the bolt with out you doing any work.

another good idea

Jorsher 01-03-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RotaryGeek

That sounds like a great way to hurt yourself or something else. use a impact or a breaker bar with a cheater pipe. or if you have to, slowly lower the jack so the wieght of the car actually loosen's the bolt with out you doing any work.

yeah that sounds workable. I've never had a bolt give me this many problems before.

Someone told me to wedge the breaker bar on something (like the ground) and turn the starter (as long as it turns the right direction)

JonDouglas 01-03-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
yeah that sounds workable. I've never had a bolt give me this many problems before.

Someone told me to wedge the breaker bar on something (like the ground) and turn the starter (as long as it turns the right direction)

That would work unless the engine spins CCW like most Honda engines do.

Jorsher 01-04-2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by snm95ls
That would work unless the engine spins CCW like most Honda engines do.

yeah i thought so too but doesn't matter cuz i'm doin the ---- tomorrow.

---- hondas.

btw their little clamps on the hoses are gay, they need to pay the extra couple pennies for the screw on kind.

88dx 01-04-2007 12:46 AM

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Your car hate's you :1

stillnoturbo 01-04-2007 01:11 AM

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I always just put it in gear and had my wife step on the brake pedal and used long extension with a impact socket and not some little cheesy socket cause they usually crack. Then a big ass breaker bar and then a piece of pipe over that. I don't usually have to put my effort into it. Haven't had one that it didn't work with. Also used a floor jack otherwise there's too much flex with the long extension. 3/8 won't cut that ---- either with my experience. SNAP! :X

Jorsher 01-04-2007 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I always just put it in gear and had my wife step on the brake pedal and used long extension with a impact socket and not some little cheesy socket cause they usually crack. Then a big ass breaker bar and then a piece of pipe over that. I don't usually have to put my effort into it. Haven't had one that it didn't work with. Also used a floor jack otherwise there's too much flex with the long extension. 3/8 won't cut that ---- either with my experience. SNAP! :X

Yes my car hates me, have never had so much trouble with this ----. The head/manifold swap, ac reinstallation, and timing belt change should have only took a few hours at the longest, that's including all the bs hassles like having to find tools and ----.

A non-cheesy socket broke, the 3/8 snapped to hell (like you said), and i've been using a 3-4ft pipe. Shouldn't have used the ratchet but we couldnt find the breaker bar to fit the socket. Ratchet broke. Found another one, socket broke. Found a breaker bar and got a new 17mm socket, wrong size socket (3/8). So tomorrow need to get ANOTHER 17mm socket. ------- ----. We don't have a floor jack that goes high enough to stop flex with the long extension so I took off the bumper and windshield washer resevoir so I could use a shorter extension :S

JonDouglas 01-04-2007 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher
yeah i thought so too but doesn't matter cuz i'm doin the ---- tomorrow.

---- hondas.

btw their little clamps on the hoses are gay, they need to pay the extra couple pennies for the screw on kind.

Not to be an ass, but they are not the only one that use those hose clamps. Pretty much every auto maker uses them because they put even pressure on the hose around its entire circumfrence instead of bunching the pressure up on one spot. Personally I ------- hate those screw type clanps and use them only if I absolutely have to. T-bolt clamps on the other hand are another story.

http://www.etoolcart.com/ProductImages/kd/KDT-3830.jpg
Makes life so much easier. Only problem is that they aren't cheap.

Jorsher 01-04-2007 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by snm95ls
Not to be an ass, but they are not the only one that use those hose clamps. Pretty much every auto maker uses them because they put even pressure on the hose around its entire circumfrence instead of bunching the pressure up on one spot. Personally I ------- hate those screw type clanps and use them only if I absolutely have to. T-bolt clamps on the other hand are another story.

http://www.etoolcart.com/ProductImages/kd/KDT-3830.jpg
Makes life so much easier. Only problem is that they aren't cheap.

I know :P I've worked on a couple chevys and had one of my own. Meh and I meant t-bolt but whatever lol. As much as they charge for cars it wouldnt hurt to throw them on.

GenLx 01-04-2007 02:43 AM

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take the hit to the wallet and buy an impact. works on everything, not just your car

Jorsher 01-04-2007 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 5thGenLx
take the hit to the wallet and buy an impact. works on everything, not just your car

Eh we have one at another house an hour or two from here. The problem is that we live in an apartment and the air compressor tank was getting in the way.

GenLx 01-04-2007 11:41 PM

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that can be a problem. oh well. i've found that mine has come in handy for a phenomenal about of ---- besides busting tough bolts loose


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