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89dxhunchback 07-08-2004 01:01 AM

Ford I-6 HMT turbo ?
 
Any of you guys ever think about turbocharging a straight six that comes in the ford trucks ?

Just been thinking that if a 3.0L I-6 in a supra can make insane power, I wonder how much power a 4.9L I-6 would make !!!

Does anyone know if they made a fuel injected version of the 4.9L truck motor ?

I'm thinking about swapping it into a fox body stang... ( of course turbo(s) would follow right behind the motor swap ;D

Semnos 07-08-2004 07:56 AM

Re:Ford I-6 HMT turbo ?
 
The Supra engine makes insane power because it was build to make that power...awesome flowing head and pretty much overbuild engine for the stock HP rating

OnYx 07-08-2004 08:02 AM

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ford = cheapest parts they could build a motor with

SkunT 07-08-2004 08:17 AM

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mustang made a turbo edition. its a older SVT model. its a 2.3 ltr, and can make some really decent numbers. my uncle used it in a street stock race car at a local track. its bullet proof. I think it came stock with the waste gate set at like 9psi, so I think it could handle around 15psi. I would consider this option if you want to run a turbo mustang. why change a good thing...

EDIT

I found some links some I scanned through, some I just posted...
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6325/ <-this one I couldnt open at work so I dont know what its like.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...&threadid=2550 <-this one talks about the cam, and the head....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...483988218&rd=1 <-one on egay.

http://www.mackenziemustang.com/85svo.html <- some stats on the car....

can you tell im bored at work?

sohcrxsi 07-08-2004 09:04 AM

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the 300ci 4.9l i-6 in fords is pretty lame. they're known for getting a wrist pin knock before 100k. i've got that motor in my F150 and it sucks. its got no power, its horrible on gas. 126k with a nasty wrist pin knock and it'll probably die soon. try it, but i dont think the motor will handle much power for very long.

sohcrxsi 07-08-2004 09:04 AM

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also the 2.3 litre is an i-4

SkunT 07-08-2004 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sohcrxsi
the 300ci 4.9l i-6 in fords is pretty lame. they're known for getting a wrist pin knock before 100k. i've got that motor in my F150 and it sucks. its got no power, its horrible on gas. 126k with a nasty wrist pin knock and it'll probably die soon. try it, but i dont think the motor will handle much power for very long.

at home we have a 4.9ltr in a 4X4 truck, and that bitch is a monster. that thing will pull antything, go through anything, and it awsome in the MUD. We cant find another motor like it. In a pulling contest, it usally kicks some ass.


wow dont I sound like a redneck. (just a contry boy)

con 07-08-2004 09:21 AM

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Wrist pin knock is a problem but they will knock for 150,000+ miles :-X They do have pretty good torque, but the horse power sucks and they die if you over rev. I think if your going to swap something in you would be very sad with the 300. They did come with efi from about 87 on.

sohcrxsi 07-08-2004 09:27 AM

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i think that a 460 in a muffstain would kick some ass (in a straight line)

SkunT 07-08-2004 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sohcrxsi
i think that a 460 in a muffstain would kick some ass (in a straight line)

I would rather have a 5.0 but thats personal. you can get the same gains from it, and it weighs alot less.

how many people do you see with a drag 460?
you dont. or at least any of the 10 tracks ive been to.

go to a mud race and you will see them in a truck that drag races in the mud. ;)

sohcrxsi 07-08-2004 10:42 AM

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i know almost nothing about fords, but i've seen a 460 in a t-bird before. i was actually thinking of pulling my 300 for a 460, maybe then i could do some sweet peg-leg burnouts :-X

SkunT 07-08-2004 10:50 AM

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460= a ---- load more power. if you do the 460 swap, get the axle to go with it. go to the junkyard and spend another 200bucks for the axle, and clean it up, and use it.
it will be worth it. (at least weld the dif.)

we put a 460 in an older ranger(the i-beam special) and it was fast as hell. our problem, no posi. we welded it, and holy ----....



we blew it though. no rev limiter.

89dxhunchback 07-08-2004 02:10 PM

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My friend has a 90' coupe with a 460 that is being built to run a non-power adder race in the fun ford weekend.

I figured the stock 300 internals would need "beefing up".

If you can't get enough power outta 6 cylinders ( a 4.9L 6 at that ), then there is a problem.

I work with a guy with 3 SVo mustangs, and I'm very aware of its potenal, just think it would be cooler to have a different set-up.

The engine doesn't have to rev to be a good engine ( look at the buick 3.8L, the power in my friends grand national starts to lose power at 4600rpms ( stock anyway ).

Of course the I-6 wouldn't be worth it without the turbo. I'm thinking two SVO 60/63 turbos ( one per 2.45L ).

I've heard nothing, but " those 300 I-6s are crazy torque monsters", which could be converted to a little more HP with a upgraded cam ( I'm sure i'd have way more torque still ).

This is all just me "thinking". I'm not going out tomorrow to buy a I-6 ford motor. I was worried about the EFI part, but I hate carbs., and a turbo carb would just be too much...

SkunT 07-08-2004 02:52 PM

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the I-6's are crazy torque monsters!

I wouldnt put one on the strip though! Hell no!

I would consider the turbo SVT. There are parts out there for them, for a 100% build.

I wouldn't run a 460 in a stang though!

typert 07-08-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sccaeg
the I-6's are crazy torque monsters!

I wouldnt put one on the strip though! Hell no!

I would consider the turbo SVT. There are parts out there for them, for a 100% build.

I wouldn't run a 460 in a stang though!

IT is an "SVO" if you are looking and get confused

accordepicenter 07-08-2004 08:32 PM

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yeah the 80s svo stang with the 2.3 turbo engine was faster than the 5-slow version... and you can punch the boost up to 20 somthing psi with minor mods and turn good times.

SkunT 07-08-2004 08:36 PM

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I meant the SVO, I saw alot of SVT and SVO while searchin and addin links....

thanks.

89dxhunchback 07-09-2004 12:47 AM

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Yea the dude at work is replacing the head gasket on a 63K mile 86' SVO head bought for $800 !!! Perfect paint, perfect interoir.

He also has an 85' SVO, but the turbo motor was replaced by a carb. 5.0 HO.

He also has another one that has a certi. of destrustion.

He is also the original owener off a 69' boss 302 ( I think its a 69' )

And his "baby" is a 427 cobra jet replica that he built.

SO..... I know about the SVOs, just kinda thinking out loud ( kinda ).

He said the SVOs 2.3L came with boss 302 rods. I've read a SVO engine can handle about 400hp from the factory...

Part for the turbo engine are a little harder to find, but I've concidered the SVO before. Truth is, I'd prob. just get a 5.0 and HMT the 5.0 before I tried to bring a SVO back from the dead ( most of them are run into the ground or the owners want "one million dollars" for them ).

1337 07-09-2004 12:52 AM

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2.3's came in various ford related models. Ford Ranger and mustang came with n/a ---- engines as base model (ranger got a roller cam assembly). The turbo models came from not so popular Merkur's, Thunderbirds, SVO Mustang, and the Merc Cougar.

89dxhunchback 07-09-2004 04:48 AM

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Yea, the "---- engines" also had ---- internals that wouldn't last 5minutes in an SVOs engine bay.

Also stuff you'd never think of is different ( for ex. the K-member on the SVOs are different ).

3sge 07-09-2004 05:53 AM

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since when is hmt about buying a prebuilt turbo motor?...

expecialy one like the svo. that car/motor is like the rednecks holy grail. theres only 1 svo in my town it has like 212k miles and the owner wants like 8000 for this rusty ass peice of ----.

come on you all turbo litte d series motors. dont tell him that the i6 would be a peice of ---- and break apart. if he builds it right and gets somebody to fab a cam that motor should be able to make some sick power.

i wouldent worry about the motor being able to make power i would worry about the tranny being able to handle the power. or deleiver it corectly. hell it could probebly only push 90 before you were at redline.

sohcrxsi 07-09-2004 11:03 AM

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ill sell you my entire truck with the i-6 and efi for $800. you can drive it home and pull the motor, ecu, mounts, blah blah blah. located near albany ny.

SkunT 07-09-2004 11:32 AM

Re:Ford I-6 HMT turbo ?
 
my uncle used the 2.3ltr in alot of his circle track cars, and they can be built pretty awsome. they are bullet- proof.

I would like to see someone do it.

14Bn4G 07-09-2004 05:23 PM

Re:Ford I-6 HMT turbo ?
 
Hey man, u MIGHT wanna consider this...go find you an old Escort GT motor. It's DOHC, 4 cylinder, I BELIEVE 1.9L...I've seen a few websites where ppl have turbo'd those...You can use the turbo and injectors off of an Escort EXP or you might could use one of those SVO turbos...It would be different(although people have done it, BUT not many) and it would be easier than the I-6...and I'm sure it would drop in the Stang, but u might be better off with the 6 cylinder rear end...I wish I had one to play with, I'd definitely boost it...

1337 07-09-2004 07:14 PM

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Brought this site back from the dead, read through his chronicle and see how this man spends nothing to make his ---- 2.3 run high 12's. Only if i could find something like uberdata for the ford ecu's then i would be all over cheap/crap stangs :X


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