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hey guys. im starting my first project soon(hopefully next year) and i just wanted to lay it out for you guys so i can get some feedback

The List:
#1 get the lightest car i can find( preferably a crx :P )

#2 swap a b18c (the jdm type-r) into it, ive never done a swap and this will be my first project so i kinda wanted to go big.

#3 make about 500 whp/tq and at least a high 10 sec 1/4 mile


now i realize this is going to take alot of tinkering and i plan on doing it right even though this will be my first swap and first turbo project(ive been reading up for quite a while, though i dont have any real experience). Im getting the garrett t3/t4 (t04e) hybrid to start so i can boost big, but i really dont know much on how to set up a good kit. i know how all the parts work but i dont know which parts exactly to get. i need some suggestions on what i should get ( besides the turbo cuz i already picked it out)

im probably going to get my intercooler from johnnyracecar cuz they seem to have good prices

im thinkin about getting a tig welder(even though ive never welded before, but how hard could it be?) and making my own manifold.

i might use the stock injectors on the type-r depending on how big they are.

im definately using the sv/afc

well other than those things i would really LOVE some suggestions on what i should use to acheive my goal

Jake ;D

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:'( :'( :'(

start here--> https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...threadid=28135

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i know i read that already but what im asking is for suggestions on which kinds of all those parts i should get

like what do you guys use on your setups. i asked because i know you know which ones are good and which ones arent, im not asking because i dont know how to build one :P but thanks tho

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well i re-read the part on engine management anyway :P

i changed my mind on that afc im going to try uberdata

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do you think that goal is achievable though? with that turbo i mean. and what size injectors should i get?

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for 500 whp try 950-1000cc injectors.and a differant turbo ballbearing type t4 IF you say you want to go BIG. ;)

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You must have some damn deep pockets man! You first post is funny about the injectors and afc. You have a lot of reading/learning to do. You will need some huge injectors. You are talking about making like 575 hp to the motor. You will need like 900 cc inj and stand alone. Give your turbo specs that you've picked out for some feedback. Most likely it is too small. You have some some very big goals, but I guess go big or go home. :)

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IMO start small...for a beginnner, "big dreams = big nightmares" 99% of the time

I say start out slow...aim for a nice REASONABLE mark(maybe 250-300hp or so), get your bearings and a feel for the car...plan to move on the next stage after that. I've seen guys throw $1000s into their first BIG setup and blow ---- up first day. IMO go slow...

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ahahah 500whp on a stock b18c5

keep dreaming buddy bro
especially since u know nothing about cars and how they react to power and such

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B16MIKE is right. If you gonna be running around stock fuel pressure you will probably need at least 1000 cc inj and a bigger turbo.

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You need to rethink this. I just did. Why don't you shoot for maybe 250-300 whp for your first setup. Do you have any idea how fast you want to go? 500 whp? Do you have any idea how much power that is? And in a little fwd crx. Have you ever driven even a 12 sec. car. You want to run high 10's? You will kill yourself. You better start small.

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ok thanks guys for talkin some sense into me :o

500 whp/tq is what i want but youre right i need to start small so i can learn more and not kill myself :P

350 hp sounds good. so probably would be ok with that first turbo and maybe some smaller injectors like 450s. would that be too much on stock internals?

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hmm 350whp seems a bit high for a high compression motor......make sure you tune the ---- out of it :-\

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here we go with another "starting a new project when I turn 18" from a sixteen year old kid ::).

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"im thinkin about getting a tig welder(even though ive never welded before, but how hard could it be?) and making my own manifold."
::) ni66a please. Dude do you know how do to anything? Everything seems to be your "first". Why would you want to buy a high compression motor and then boost it? Feels like I'm talking to my kid about this. I'm tired was wasting my breath. Where do these noobs find this site? we should have a test you should have to take before you can become a member.

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hahahah
im ninteen ass :P

ive only recently started liking imports and making them fast

i usta have a 99 jeep grand cherokee laredo. it was a nice ride but it lacked speed, so i traded it for a civic dx and have been a honda enthusiast ever since.

i know im a noob but i come here because you guys know ALOT about boosting cars and im just wantings some imput on a nice ride...


oh and would a gsrs compression be more boost friendly? since its lower. but the stock hp/tq is lower than the type-r, thats why i wanted to get that one.

but if the gsr would be a better choice because of the lower compression ill use that one. but ill also have to make up for the 20 hp/8 trq lost. but still thats only .5 difference . will that make much of a difference?

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well dont post about the subject again till you make up YOUR OWN mind ::)

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well there is no test and so what if im a ------ noob

you guys had to learn somewhere too

it just so happens that I chose to learn here with you, if you cant see that i have the utmost respect for you because you know so much then youre an asshat

i really dont care if you flame me im just sayin that id like to learn how to do this to, and what better place to learn it than here where there are so many people who know so much about turbos

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Where's Hotsex when you need him ::) Tig welding, how hard can it be :-\ I'm not even wasting my time with you anymore. I heard honda-tech.com is an even more knowledgeable site then here. You should go check out their site. We don't know nothing and we all just have electric ebay turbo's on our cars. Were just post whoring noobs so we look like know alot but we really don't.

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Yo Jacob U should start small since it's ur first project. Don't be mad at these guys but i know there tried of noobs getting on the board an posting and not reading the info that's there. U have to decide how fast u wanna go and the reliablity is another matter to think about. So stay w/ a sohc an walk w/ that then run big if u choose. U don't want to spend $3k or more on a motor and blow that bitch up and complain to us about it. A sohc is a dime a dozen. Read other members experience and problem's that way when or if u run in to it u can solve it.

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Right
Can't walk before you crawl
Not to put you down but even just aim to make double what the engine puts out. SOHC, aim to make over 200 hp. I personally am not jumping to DOHC VTEC because full time student part time worker can't afford to blow up a 2000 dolla engine because a vaccum hose blew off the wastegate and boost spiked. Try to get a little experience under your belt. You here is a lot but just read and search.
Make a list of what you want to accomplish thenlook for parts.
And seeing as thou you dont seem to be able to DIY a lot of stuff your self i would look into some pre assembled manifolds and stuff like that unless you have a lot of time and money on your hands to spend.
Good luck and see ya around the forums ;)

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"usta have a 99 jeep grand cherokee laredo. it was a nice ride but it lacked speed, so i traded it for a civic dx and have been a honda enthusiast ever since"

The v8 jeeps are faster then any civic dx, why, the straight 6 is probly faster.

450cc injectors probly wont support 350hp anyway. anything over 300whp isn't really worth it on the street.

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And is this car ur only car? If yes be very careful in ur journey for speed. Make sure u try an buy xtra parts in case u ---- something up.

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hey jacob, i think i would get a drivers license first there buddy. thats where it all begins ;)

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i thought the type R was b18c5... not jus the b18c.. that's a gsr. u need more knowledge before u can build a beast. for starters any of the jdm motors are high compretion. especially the type r motor. you'll be needing all new internals and sleevs so you might as well go with something cheaper, ls-vtec will do fine, or even jus a plain gsr. u dont need the type r, its over rated imo... good luck with ur "project"

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you need to get some knowledge, A jdm B18c is a ------- Type R, there is no such thing as a jdm b18c5.

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such anger, you must have been mistreated as you were growin up, touched in wrong places have you? school me as i school'd him, no need to get angry.

since you kno so much, what are all the jdm codes, ls, gsr, type r

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The B18c5 had the same code stamped on the block as the GSR since they don't have numbers after the b16a, B18C, D15B and so on. Plus I don't think they had a LS model name. I think it was called the ESi that had the B18B in it. There was the RXi, ZXi, RSi, XSi, Ti, Xi, Xi-G, Xi-4wd(yup a 4wd teg ;)) SiR, SiR-G, SiR II, Type R. The SiR-G is actually the GSR in Japan. LS, GSR ...pffh ::)

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Jacob,
i think that what members are saying is that you should read, read, read... and learn all the ---- other people have done and tried and then come up with YOUR OWN set up that is going to be realistic for you... not only that, when you've read all the info on this forum you'll be able to ask intelligent questions about 500hp set ups.

people get offended b/c most HMT people had to start with all the above at one time.

p.s. My personal oppinion is that high comp and boost owns!

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Evosol, there's actually other asian dudes on HMT. Draztik, Donald are just a few I know of but there's quite a bit of other asian dudes too.

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i know there are...


none with a self portrait avitar! :P

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wow, your a homo noob, weve seen about 20 cool noobs in the past 2 weeks postin pics of their rides and ----, your terrible, go back to www.dseriesturbowankster.com

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250whp will be driver friendy,managable.but 500whp will put you in a wall fast.my buddy has a 500 whp 94 hatch.street car,when he was on the hwy going 70 and floored it,pulled so hard to the right he almost hit the wall and thats with an lsd.very hard to control at WOT. i need to find that video of the dyno and where he almost hit the wall.

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your link doesnt work. :P