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Atticus 02-13-2009 01:14 AM

To fill ro not to fill....
 
Contemplating filling my motor mounts. I have 2 or more of each one
Iv heard mixed results. ''supposed'' to help with launches and wheel hop. Some swear by it but iv also heard from more then one person all it did was make the hole car vibrate.

Im worried that most likely my new manifold will hit the hood webbing (will cut out if need be)
thinking the mounts will prevent motor from rocking more, but not sure if its worth the vibration if thats all it dose.

lets hear your input

Jorsher 02-13-2009 01:22 AM

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I think inserts are cheap enough I wouldn't ---- with it.

Although I don't know how big of an improvement they are.

Tom-Guy 02-13-2009 01:24 AM

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I used window weld, works well. An extra $10 and you don't have to waut 24 hours for it to set, or deal with the mess.

jinxy 02-13-2009 01:28 AM

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Cut out all of your mount material and press delrin in. Poly filling isn't really hard enough and never 100% drys unless you do it in layers.

MikeJ-2009 02-13-2009 01:32 AM

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The PL roofing uerathane (sp) takes a long time to dry, and smells like sweet chocolate, but will be hard enough to dampen the rocking of the engine, yet soft enough to not have you vibrating. All the cars I've been in with the 3m window weld were rattle boxes. PL roofing uerathane is in the home depot painting section.

Nate 02-13-2009 01:35 AM

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I like the feeling of filled/solid mounts. Makes everything feel stronger and more solid. And trust me, I learned the hard way that stock mounts and a manifold that sits your wastegate close to your hood will end badly.

Atticus 02-13-2009 03:14 AM

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Ill take it buy the responses you guys are in favor of solid mounts.

working in a body shop I can get window urethane for free or hella cheap (also have it on the spot, dont need to go get it)
I can also leave the mounts to cure for 2 months before the new motor is dropped in

next question, which mounts, is there such a thing as too much/stiff?
defiantly the rear tranny (firewall)
other tranny is stock
and timing belt is a ls/gsr aluminum stiffer one
while im at it should i do mt torque mounts?



Toysrme 02-13-2009 03:21 AM

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i like window weld, but do it in 1/4" thick layers and cure it in an oven at 200-250*F on oiled wax paper in a pan you will never use for food

Guy-Fast 02-13-2009 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rawr
Cut out all of your mount material and press delrin in. Poly filling isn't really hard enough and never 100% drys unless you do it in layers.


delrin is hardly cheap

TurboG 02-13-2009 08:47 AM

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atticus



I just lost the respect I had for you.


Go back to VCC faggot and while your there.................... might as well go all motor

2point2 02-13-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
The PL roofing uerathane (sp)

That Stuff Sucks.

It doesn't adhere to the rubber in the mounts very well and will work itself free over the long term. It's not meant to take loads like window weld is.

Window weld is WAY better.

jinxy 02-13-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chris

delrin is hardly cheap

I paid 18 dollars for my 3" dia x 8" long piece.

B20x 02-13-2009 11:24 AM

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a friend used hockey pucks lol. he likes it

MikeJ-2009 02-13-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 2point2
That Stuff Sucks.

It doesn't adhere to the rubber in the mounts very well and will work itself free over the long term. It's not meant to take loads like window weld is.

Window weld is WAY better.

You must understand. My opinion is not up for debate.

Atticus 02-13-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Indian
atticus



I just lost the respect I had for you.


Go back to VCC faggot and while your there.................... might as well go all motor

respect for me... dont understand why you would have any?
my stock D putting out only 211 Hp is no where as impresive as 2 FAILED high $ builds.

you have something to say to me wait till you come down here and do it in person.
othere wise shut the ---- up and get out of my thread.

Toysrme 02-13-2009 03:12 PM

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score 1-0 for reliability

speedjunky01 02-13-2009 03:38 PM

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i used the ES poly inserts. They made the mounts stiffer but not solid. reduced wheel hop alot but didnt eliminate it.

over all for 25 bucks was a good producs, plus if you need to sell the car easy to reverse so your not trying to seel a giant vibrator at idle.

idiot-stick 02-13-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I used window weld, works well. An extra $10 and you don't have to waut 24 hours for it to set, or deal with the mess.

Window weld is God's own personal lubricant. I used it to repair a 20" rip in my convertible top like a year ago. ---- is like magic and awesome when it gets on your skin.

I've used it for mounts too. If you have a more rigid mount, more of the engine's vibration is going to be felt. That just the way it be.

marcj 02-13-2009 04:14 PM

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I used an insert in the rear mount.. had to hammer the T-bracket on.. so it's stiff as hell. then I filled the torque mount at the A/C bracket with construction adhesive. added a bit of vibration but WELL worth it. my top driver side mount is busted in half (96-00 mounts suck!) and the motor doesn't have a cm of play. However, it does rattle my mirrors at cruising speeds :l

90dx 02-13-2009 05:06 PM

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Get some Prothane inserts they are less then $100 and will fix your wheel hop.

b18. 02-13-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by marcj
(96-00 mounts suck!)

What can be done with about that.

I think that liquid filled ---- is gay as aids.

Atticus 02-13-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Get some Prothane inserts they are less then $100 and will fix your wheel hop.


i dont have whell hop. traction bar prevents that
as for spending $100 for something that i can make for >$10... pass

TurboG 02-13-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus
my stock D putting out only 211 Hp is no where as impresive as 2 FAILED high $ builds.

you have something to say to me wait till you come down here and do it in person.

Your real life is not as amazing as your E-Thugness :l so ---- you and I'll say it to your face if you want I dont care

and as I recall I didnt fail, I still ran 11's with a $600 stock LS motor.


Where is your slips, AND if you have to ask about filling your mounts you are a greasy skid faggot.


PS. I ran a 14's on a stock D no turbo

danz 02-13-2009 07:13 PM

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FWIW i filled my tq mounts on my ED chassis and i still had insane wheel hop. blew up that diff real quick. traction bar helped a lot. open diff still plagues me.

daily driver? dont fill.

track car? fill.


sandy clams? gtfo

Tom-Guy 02-13-2009 09:29 PM

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There are no torque mounts on an ED chassis.


con 02-13-2009 10:33 PM

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I have every mount for engine, trans, rear diff, drive shaft..............every------- thing! on the tprc filled and it vibrates 1000 times less them my eg with 3 energy suspension inserts. The car isa also gutted with no sound ---- or carpet and I really dont think its even worse then stock.

danz 02-14-2009 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
There are no torque mounts on an ED chassis.


well, im not talking about the side mounts, im tlaking about the tranny mounts. that betteR??? :y :8


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