Fair Warning About KaZaa / P2P Networks (RIAA and Such)
 

I know this forum isn't meant for politics, but I feel that there is a need to warn anyone on this forum about using any form of peer to peer file sharing.

As you should know by now, the R.I.A.A (Recording Industry Association of America) has begun pressing personal law suits against individuals caught using the program KaZaa, Morpheus, and LimeWire. They haven't ------ their tentacles into other programs like WinMX, or eMule yet.

They are primarily after users UPLOADING data, by performing searches and seizing all IP information, time/date, file information, and user name with KaZaa, etc.
They will then trace down your ISP (internet service provider) and subpeona the ISP for the account holders information associated with the IP caught. Your ISP is required now, by law (Digital Millenium Act) to turn over all information you established with them when creating your account. They can also if necessary, trace back to phone lines or phone line numbers (in the case of dial up).
As we are beginning to see, specific people are being pressed with law suits then - most offering settlements of $12,000.

I don't know about you, but I don't have $12,000 to pay some lobbyists.

More information about that can be read here:
http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/s...4600%2c00.html

But don't get conned into the fact that you think you're safe with Kazaa Lite, or other such programs. Though it says that K++ will not display your personal IP information (They give some bullshit about rerouting it) learn this. Accessing specific TCP/IP ports on your computer they will attain your IP because in order for you to communicate with another internet user it eventually has to become back to your personal protocol.

Essentially if this is all babble, I am just leaving a fair warning.

I do not agree with whats going on, I think this is a very pathetic way to stimulate their so called 'poor sales' but arguing this is for another web board.

I'll exit this message with these links:

http://www.stoppoliceware.org (this is very important)
http://www.boycott-riaa.com

Have a good day,
Chacko

Re:Fair Warning About KaZaa / P2P Networks (RIAA and Such)
 

---- the RIAA ... and ---- the PMRC (Parent's Music Resource Center)

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so this is just about music then right? they have no problem about videos/movies/porn yet then right?

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you would think that the porn industry (at least the big names) make enough. Especially if DVD's are $45+ a pop....

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---- pretty soon you are going to be required to actually remove your balls and give them to the record industry before your even allowed on the internet. All you guys that are going to stop using KaZaA because you’re scared better get the scissors ready.

Your not really warning anybody your just scaring all the pussies away from using file sharing programs. If somebody ever tries to sue me for sharing files I am going to wipe my ass with their lawsuit. There are too many people already sharing files and no matter what happens there will always be a program or a way to get it for free. ---- there is probably some computer wizard out there right now making a program for KaZaA that will allow you to share files anonymously.

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---- the RIAA there not gettin my money fuckum i'll move to canida you can't sue some one over country boarders

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and i can buy mugen and spoon parts easy in canida so ---- um

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well if you want to move to "canida" you better learn how to spell it or they probably won't let you in...or wait this is canada...they let everyone in

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Don't think that you're safe in Canada either, there are associations around the world starting to follow in the same manner.
Read some of the articles on the boycott RIAA website.
You're going to also find that software piraters, and movie piraters are going to be getting nailed soon.

This is a flood gate thats been opened to piracy - unfortunately they're going to be wasting alot of time in our court system.

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bah. they cant do ----. im invincible!

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They can all lick my ass, if they sue me ill sue them back for being ediots.

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you can always say that you had a party and people were using your computer...installed the program and downloaded music without you knowing about it. ;D for all i say....tell those suit wearing bitchs to go ---- them selves. hell they prolly never get any ----- so they have to ---- with us. they come to my door with a subpeona ill shove it up there ass!

lewis

and on top of that my isp wouldnt give up ---- because the owner of the isp is one of my best friends. ;D

Re:Fair Warning About KaZaa / P2P Networks (RIAA and Such)
 

There isa think called packet sniffing and they DO do it and it is easy as piss to do it on any IP out there.

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actually if they subpoena'd me i'd cry like a bitch

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None of you have obviously been involved in a law suit with a corporation ;)

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I so ------- sick of that ---- Singers and bands complain that file sharing causes them to lose money but that is bullshit because there are artists breaking all sorts of records for selling albums and ---- the only thing filesharing will do is widen there fanbase to people who would not normally waste there money on that ---- anyways. Plus the artists dont make ---- on record sales anyways they make almost all of their money on concerts so they need to chill the ---- out and shut the ---- up.


thats just my 2 cents

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What scares me is that its costing the record companys more to have the damn RIAA running than what they will make after sueing thousands of people and court costs. its ------- stupid.

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i think that the big p2p ---- will be eventually cut out.. even my grandma can use kazaa and thats what scares the riaa.. anyone can be a pirate. it needs to go back to the days of ftps and fservs in irc. then only a few ppl will be able to get the files and the riaa wont have to worry.

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---- to police

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Ah, I just simply think every American needs to start using these programs.
What are they seriously going to sue everyone of us? This is about as stupid as throwing every person in America who has been caught with a small amount of pot in jail (talk about wasting the prisons).

What ever happened to murder being a serious crime?

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LMAO!!!!! That quote XDEep seriously made me laugh on the floor because it's prolly what I would do too. But I agree with what all of you are saying. I am a computer technician and this RIAA ---- is bullshit. File sharing is too wide------ for them to actually do something about it. The only people that they might even have a small chance of going after is people with 100's of GIG's of files shared on their machine. I just hope they don't find the massive amounts of beastiality porn i like to download. :) lol later guys
-Kaelon

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I mean this whole RIAA thing is bullshit... its like the Mob boss bullying the Union, and the MOB Boss beeing the RIAA, and the Union beeing the record labels.

The only reason their doing this is to set an example and try to scare you into not doing this, Why because their losing money. The artist isnt losing money. They are. They figure if they go after a few and make examples of them others will succumb to there will and uninstall the programs.

In reality how much does an artist actually make off a CD. ????? im guessing if anything 1$ after the record label takes its dues for manufacturing, advertising and distributing its corporate phsycobable to the masses.

and you the consumer ends up paying for all this crap.

It all comes down to "Money"

welcome to the "Corparate State of America"

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As far as I knew artists signed a contract to be paid 1/4 million or whatever to record album _X_ and that the record company generates all revenue (whoever produced their record) there after from sales.

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such stupidity. all you gotta do is record their song off cable or something and then what can they do? they can't track that. theyre' already making millions and they wanna bitch. thats one reason I stopped listening to mettalica cause theyr'e such whiners.

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Ya know, if they REALLY want to bitch about it, ---- them. Let's boycott them. Then what the ---- are they going to do? If we(the consumer)stop buying there stupid ass cd's and stop going to there concerts and buying there ----, they wouldn't be dick. They would be begging people to come to concerts and buy cd's. They just need to stop bitching. Like that one band"Good Charolette" says. If money was such a problem, well they got mansions, I think we should rob them.

Those stupid ass's need us wheather they want to admit it or not. If it weren't for us they wouldn't be living in 10,000 square foot mansions, driving $750,000 cars and flying all over the world. I call a boycott!!!!!!! >:(
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as much as i think they are over-reacting to what they are losing, they are losing $$ as a business. i see both sides of this issue and i'm probably going to get flamed for it, but oh well. if the artist is getting $1 off each cd think about if half of those that want to have a copy don't buy because it's so easy to get with excellent quality now a days. i know i would.

let's not forget what happend to napster and the unfortunate few that were arrested, fined, and jailed. it does seem like b.s. especially if you want to sample something before buying it; i hate nothing more than buying a cd because of the first song that gets airplay is great, but the whole rest of the the cd sucks ass.

it's very similar to if you owned a business and someone came in and just took inventory off your shelf and walked out the door without paying. the artist and recording industry is the business and the songs/cds are their inventory.

now the industry was smart they would come out with their own file sharing business that was significantly cheaper because of technology and overhead and just charge a small fee for music and movies. i think apple just partnered with something like this for their new music players...smart.

don't hate the player...hate the game. (i've been saying this long before bad boys 2 so don't flame me for that either). alright...flame on boys and girls.