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t_cel_t 01-13-2009 04:39 PM

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shits burning like a mofo right now

heyseemoreh22 01-13-2009 04:49 PM

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Is that back in the valley? Just zoomed it. Some mortor bombs went off their this morning. Where are all the police sirens/honking that I heard while it was daynight.

DURKA's needing light, thats what the fire is for
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J-SMITH69 01-13-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
The picture that really struck me was this one, dude in the exact middle has his foot on backwards.

they are just asleep

B20x 01-13-2009 10:38 PM

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bad crap is this is our money at work since the usa gives to israeli. those are our bombs etc. nobody ever asked me if i wanted to support israeli, kinde like bailout after bailout (aka failout). Why do any of us stay in this country? When the economy tanks oh wait already has lol

j3w 01-13-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by B20x
bad crap is this is our money at work since the usa gives to israeli. those are our bombs etc. nobody ever asked me if i wanted to support israeli, kinde like bailout after bailout (aka failout). Why do any of us stay in this country? When the economy tanks oh wait already has lol

you're a ------- idiot.

bitchM0VE 01-13-2009 11:32 PM

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wow that's really sad.

Tom-Guy 01-14-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by B20x
bad crap is this is our money at work since the usa gives to israeli. those are our bombs etc. nobody ever asked me if i wanted to support israeli

Review the post history of buk9tp/jay, and then tell me that our funding Israel so they can wholesale slaughter some Arabs isn't 100% necessary.

Scott-EP 01-14-2009 01:00 AM

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here is a link to the same camera that has been pretty reliable for me

http://switch206-01.castup.net/cunet...86&ar=NanaTV01

beaker 01-14-2009 01:03 AM

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lol....a rooster is crowing......time for bombing

beaker 01-14-2009 01:21 AM

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TOO ------- BRIGHT!!!!!!

change the god damned white filter setting.

QikEnuF 01-14-2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Review the post history of buk9tp/jay, and then tell me that our funding Israel so they can wholesale slaughter some Arabs isn't 100% necessary.

Funniest ---- on this site in a while

signorelli21 01-14-2009 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Review the post history of buk9tp/jay, and then tell me that our funding Israel so they can wholesale slaughter some Arabs isn't 100% necessary.

Not only is it not necessary it is counter productive, read any foreign policy journal and they will say that now the arab countries are likely to become more united against israel (egypt already has a court order to stop selling them natural gas) and this will surely recruit more members to hamas, etc.

I could write a substantial essay on why we are wrong to support Israel but i don't want to hijack this thread, basically though there was a ceasefire, Hamas honored it by not fireing rockets for 4 months, Israel tried to assasinate a Hamas leader and killed several people thus breaking the ceasefire, then hamas fired rockets in retaliation, but everyone is taking israels side, not to mention the past 18 months of blockades, and the fact that the gaza strip is essentially a collection of refugee camps.

All this comes from the UN and an Israeli human rights group called B'Tselem, and others.

Tom-Guy 01-14-2009 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by signorelli21
Not only is it not necessary it is counter productive, read any foreign policy journal and they will say that now the arab countries are likely to become more united against israel (egypt already has a court order to stop selling them natural gas) and this will surely recruit more members to hamas, etc.

I could write a substantial essay on why we are wrong to support Israel but i don't want to hijack this thread, basically though there was a ceasefire, Hamas honored it by not fireing rockets for 4 months, Israel tried to assasinate a Hamas leader and killed several people thus breaking the ceasefire, then hamas fired rockets in retaliation, but everyone is taking israels side, not to mention the past 18 months of blockades, and the fact that the gaza strip is essentially a collection of refugee camps.

All this comes from the UN and an Israeli human rights group called B'Tselem, and others.

Okay, step back a second and think about this. This is HMT, bitch. It's like a masculine /b/, where we don't give a ---- if you know who's actually saying all that horrible ---- because we aren't a collection of foppish pantywaists hiding in mommy's basement. We don't care about your Hummus or your preferred choice of news media or your lox bagels; we just like looking at pictures of dead cats, people who put their feet on backwards before going out to die, and making cruel jokes at buk's expense.

My point is that, while on some level buk is a nice guy for an anti-semitic, every time he posts I want to stab him in the forehead with a pencil. Factor in that 90% of the Jews I meet are hip, laid back Americans (---- Yeah!) and I forget that the dirty whining persecution-complex bundles of negativity from northern Jersey/NYC exist. That makes it really super easy for me to arbitrarily choose a side based off of no real world information. If I wanted real world information I have some FPGA texts I've been slacking off and not reading. I could really give a ---- what horrible things a couple factions of religious extremists on the other side of the world are doing to each other, or which side is more to blame.

Get with the pogrom, or GTFO!

heyseemoreh22 01-14-2009 05:53 AM

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SIR JAYDEEEEEEE smoke a blunt

TurboG 01-14-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by highroller54
doesn't work

exceeds viewers

Darkelvis 01-14-2009 04:40 PM

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still no workey...

Scott-EP 01-14-2009 07:26 PM

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there are missles flying like crazy right now. if you arent watching, you are missing out

Darkelvis 01-14-2009 07:34 PM

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i finally got on...and ---- is hitting the fan.

beaker 01-14-2009 08:25 PM

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its showing that im connected.....but just a black screen

signorelli21 01-15-2009 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Okay, step back a second and think about this. This is HMT, bitch. It's like a masculine /b/, where we don't give a ---- if you know who's actually saying all that horrible ---- because we aren't a collection of foppish pantywaists hiding in mommy's basement. We don't care about your Hummus or your preferred choice of news media or your lox bagels; we just like looking at pictures of dead cats, people who put their feet on backwards before going out to die, and making cruel jokes at buk's expense.

Get with the pogrom, or GTFO!

Oh, well why didn't you just say that in the first place -------? ;D


Tom-Guy 01-15-2009 02:18 AM

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Have you not read this thread? :l

t_cel_t 01-15-2009 04:27 AM

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damn just checked it and some cluster bomb just touched off about 200 feet in the air

signorelli21 01-15-2009 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Have you not read this thread? :l

yes of course i read it, that was my attempt at sarcasm, you could have saved yourself all the typing and just said "Noone cares, shut the ---- up" and i would have understood.

However, since this thread is about watching Gaza in real time i wasn't sure if anyone knew what was actually happening there, like how the Israelis are using white phosphorus on civilian neigborhoods and how 1/3 of the casualties are children (and there are dozens of reports of them being shot at close range by the IDF), and then the next thread will be about some Arab terrorist that flew some planes into a building or blew himself up in the middle of a crowded street and everyone wonders how someone could do such a thing.

But yea, noone cares so I'll see if i can find more pics. >:D

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Tom-Guy 01-15-2009 06:46 AM

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People have been killing each other over that shitty piece of desert for a couple thousand years now. Over what? ------- stupidity is what. Just because one faction currently has the upper hand you expect me or anyone on this forum to be swayed into taking sides? Excuse me, I am educated and know from history that the only time wars are won are when the civilians are wholesale massacred and the country's infrastructure gutted. Sounds like Israel is doing a GOOD JOB.

If I saw my family and loved ones getting wholesale slaughtered by a decisively better armed force for, oh, fifty ------- years I wouldn't be determined to stay. I'd call up the Israeli government and tell them I know that one of those rockets they killed my dear sweet auntie had to have cost a fuckload more than four plane tickets to Saudi Arabia, so hook it the ---- up and help expedite some visas because me and the remainder of my family want the ---- out of the war zone. But, no, they can't unplug and have to get right in the middle and play dangerous games. Sounds like buk vs the car thieves to me, down to the flawed Arab reasoning that any five year old can tell is completely fucked.

Tom-Guy 01-15-2009 07:54 PM

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signorelli... can you really blame the Israelis??

signorelli21 01-15-2009 09:05 PM

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lol, I think your misinterpreting my position that i am somehow supporting Hamas, both sides are responsible for bullshit, the problem I have is that everyone takes the side of Israel regardless of anything, our governemt won;t even talk to hamas directly, my entire point is that the United States should reexamine why it supports Israel, if they want to fight a never ending war then thats fine, but why should you and I pay for it?

Anyway, I respect you enough to not continue on with this discussion so lets just agree to disagree and I will avoid this subject in the future. :6

Tom-Guy 01-15-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by signorelli21
Anyway, I respect you enough to not continue on with this discussion so lets just agree to disagree and I will avoid this subject in the future. :6

No, let's not. I'm here to argue with anyone trying to make any real world point concerning this situation, so either post up sweet terrorist mspaints and let us know when firefights break out on the cam, or get back to arguing with me. :6

gon3r 01-16-2009 01:37 PM

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jd is always entertaining regardless of the thread he posts in.

McBoost 01-16-2009 02:31 PM

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Attempting to follow JD's logic is like watching an 18 year old stripper bending over to pick up her $1 bills... ----, I forget where I was going with that. In conclusion, JD is an anarchist.

signorelli21 01-18-2009 02:28 AM

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Alright then, let us continue…

First of all you said wars are only won when civilians are wholesale massacred and the country’s infrastructure gutted, and in that regard Israel is doing a good job.

Well by your own account then that’s not true because this conflict has been going on for quite some time, by your reasoning it should have ended long ago with the population of Gaza running away in fear of the mighty Israel, which brings us to another interesting problem of where would they go if they COULD run away?

Anyway the main argument here is that Israel should have the right to defend itself from rocket attacks and therefore any actions it takes to prevent rockets from landing in its cities should be accepted, because of the massive casualties and damage to its infrastructure its retaliation is necessary for the state of Israel to survive. Correct?

No its not...from 2004 to the end of 2007 11 Israeli’s were killed by Qassam rockets while during this time Hamas had fired over 4000 rockets into Israel, but the reason for the low casualties is due to the availability of public bomb shelters and the fact that most of the rockets land in empty fields. Obviously this violates the fourth Geneva Convention (intentionally targeting civilians) and cannot be justified no matter the circumstances.

However lets not conclude that Israel is somehow an innocent victim that is under constant barrage regardless of their actions, lets take a look at some of the things they have done to the Palestinians that might make them want to fire those rockets…


http://www.btselem.org/english/Gaza_...ostilities.asp
Israel completed the disengagement in September 2005. From then until the end of July 2006, soldiers have killed fourteen unarmed Palestinians near the perimeter fence. Five of the fatalities were minors, one of them an eight-year-old girl. Eight of the dead did not even try to reach the fence, and were shot at a distance of from 100 to 800 meters from the fence. Four other civilians were shot when they tried to cross the fence and sneak into Israel to work, and two were shot near the Israeli border. The IDF's announcement confirms that none of the persons killed were carrying weapons or objects with which they could mount an attack. B'Tselem's research also indicates that Israel 's security forces did not warn the Palestinians to go away from the area, and they were not given the opportunity to hand themselves over to the soldiers. The IDF Spokesperson's Office only announced that the soldiers opened fire when they suspected that Palestinians intended to fire at them or sought to place explosives near the fence.


Since June 2007, no raw materials have entered Gaza, forcing 90 percent of the enterprises to cease operations. The construction sector, too, is totally paralyzed. 3,500 businesses have closed down and over 75,000 workers, who support half a million dependants, have lost their jobs.
As a result of the siege, the stocks of imported food products in Gaza are dwindling, driving their prices sky-high, while fruit and vegetables that were intended for export are being sold in Gazan markets at a loss. Many families cannot afford to buy them, however, due to the high poverty rate in Gaza. 80 percent of Gazan households now live below the poverty line, subsisting on less than 2,300 shekels a month for a family of six. Households in deep poverty, living on less than 1,837 shekels a month, currently comprise 66.7 percent of the population. 80 percent of all Gazan families would literally starve without food aid from international agencies.
Ok, so Hamas still is not justified for violating the Geneva conventions but by using the same logic how could you conclude that Israel IS justified, not only are they targeting civilians they have so far attacked several schools and universities, UN buildings, fired at ambulances, used white phosphorous on civilians, and bombed refugee camps. I think before you respond to this you should look up the technical definition of “Terrorism” and see to which group it applies the most. Also it should be noted that Hamas has said numerous times what it would take for them to stop firing the rockets, basically the want the siege to end and the blockades lifted, and of course the bombs to stop falling, they also proposed a 1 year renewable ceacefire last year which Israel not only rejected, but responded by declaring Gaza a "Hostile Territory"
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1189411457380

So in conclusion, Israel claims to only want peace, yet their actions indicate otherwise.


Noam Chomsky gave a talk yesterday at MIT on the situation in Gaza, he explains all of this in a lot more detail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOr9K...-8&sa=N&tab=wv

Tom-Guy 01-18-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by signorelli21
Ok, so Hamas still is not justified for violating the Geneva conventions but by using the same logic how could you conclude that Israel IS justified

This man has sent pictures of his penis to myself and other HMT members. His race must die.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8...2332e45ge1.jpg

https://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c...trct/buktg.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=94266.0

heyseemoreh22 01-18-2009 02:11 PM

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MEH he's clearly an odd ball. Just think, I was going to meet up with him the next time he came to Indiana. JAY get over it

signorelli21 01-18-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
This man has sent pictures of his penis to myself and other HMT members. His race must die.

Now thats just ------- uncalled for sir. I bet it was an uncircumcised dirty penis too, break out the Zyklon B :7

heyseemoreh22 01-19-2009 02:00 AM

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WTF nothing but blue screen

heyseemoreh22 01-19-2009 05:13 AM

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These camo-thugs need to grow a pair and take off the masks if they are so bad

signorelli21 01-19-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by heyseemoreh22
These camo-thugs need to grow a pair and take off the masks if they are so bad

lol, are watching this ---- too? I wish i could understand what they are saying, they wear masks because they are not stupid. O0

catch.can 01-19-2009 05:42 AM

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have audio but nion video


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