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IndianRide 10-06-2005 11:38 PM

engine blew again
 
I blew my engine again, less than a half of tank of gas on this engine af was at 12 to1 I did'nt even beat on it and it blew, never saw redline. I don't have a place to pull the engine so I don't know what to do, it has a 90day warranty so if I can pull it I can get another one. I may have to pay a shop to put another engine in and then I think I'm going to sell the car and buy a v8, something that goes fast with little money or a newer more reliable car. I can't afford to keep doing this stuff since I'm going to school next semester and I'll be broke. Any suggestions on what to buy, I've always wanted a crx si but its hard to find a clean one and plus I don't want to have to put a ton of money in a car again to make it fast and reliable. I was also considering a 5.0 fox body with trunk. Or I could be like my parents and buy a new focus :-X

Xgenturbo 10-06-2005 11:42 PM

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There is no such thing as a fast yet reliable car, when things move fast they usually break.

If you want a fast car get the CRX and do a swap, if you want a reliable car then get a toyota echo.

J-SMITH69 10-06-2005 11:43 PM

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there are plenty of "fast" and reliable cars. they are all stock and probably expensive.

90dx 10-06-2005 11:44 PM

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Do a HMT 5.0 mustang.They have a pretty awful interior but parts are plentiful and cheap.CRX's can be had for cheap as well just buy a DX etc and do a multiport swap it takes probably 6 hours and $200 bucks at most to complete.Drop a good D16 in or a LS swap as there cheap and a little HMT your instantly fast.CRX is super light so you really dont need much power to go quick.

IndianRide 10-06-2005 11:47 PM

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well fairly reliable is what I meant, engines not blowing in less than 1000 miles, Its really hard to find a clean crx in mn, but clean 5.0s are pleantiful here.

scottsi 10-07-2005 01:14 AM

Re: engine blew again
 
learn to tune you retarded faggot, engines just dont magically blow up, they blow up because there is something wrong. it was probably running lean as ----, too much timing, less than par gas, and you were probably beating the ---- out of it on a hot ass day.

this is you

"dur im gonna put a turbo on my car durr"
"durr okay the turbo is on and the car is running durr thats all that matters durr"
"buhm durr why my engine blow up? me no know, durrr, me put new one in"
"yay new engine turbo again durrrp"
"durr me give up, me am too stoopid to understand any concept of tuning, and to learn from my previous mistakes to why the first engine blew up, so being stubborn and stupid i blew up two engines when i didnt even have to blow up one durr"

stop being stupid, find out what went wrong, why it went wrong, and what you can do to prevent it from happening again

IndianRide 10-07-2005 02:18 AM

Re: engine blew again
 
hey dip shiit I did learn how to tune, I had a wideband hooked up to it, timing was set, wideband was hooked up when it blew, air fuel ratios were at 12 to 1(after a few hours of tuning and a basemap from midnightracerx). The old engine also had bad compression to begin with, this one was stated to have 185 across the board when I bought which is pretty good for an fblock. It was also 38 degrees outside and I did'nt beat on it since the engine was put in. Well atleast my car has'nt gotten stolen yet.

Why are you even still on these boards, if you look in your my z got stolen thread nobody likes you, even your parents thats why the kicked you out, they realized your a loser who talks alot of ----, You got what was coming to you and maybe I did too, I tryed to fix all the problems with my old setup and I did'nt even drive it until a wideband was hooked up to it,but maybe its a sign that I need to sell my accord and move on to something better, maybe its possible I was just sold a bad engine, I put less than 100 miles on it, and I heard a missfire was going to pull over then insane amounts of smoke. I'm curious as to why it blew but I won't know till its torn apart which won't happend since its still under warranty so I'll just get another one leave it na and sell the car and buy something else, I did almost everything I could possibly do to this car and its time to move on, it was'nt good enough. It was my first build and I was thinking about selling it after it got tuned and I raced it one more time anyways.

mycrx 10-07-2005 10:22 AM

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chances are it was fuckked when u got it, doesnt seem like 12:1afr and not beating on it would ---- it up, hondas usually dont just give out.

scottsi 10-07-2005 11:14 AM

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so you went from " i need to have my tuner tune it because im too stupid" to "i tuned it perfectly" haha yeah ------ right, if it was 12:1 that is optimal, but for saftey i would have richened it up. and you dont even know what youre talking about when you say "timing is set" for your own good, you probably shouldnt tune your car, or anyones for that matter. but as for me, im out to tune my friends Z6 via uberdata, and i know i wont blow anything.

IndianRide 10-07-2005 12:53 PM

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He taught me how to tune before he left, yeah I'm not great at it yet and it takes awhile, but now I'm out alot of money and the car is going up for sale as soon as a stock engine is put in and a complete trubo kit will be for sale also.

turboDA6 10-07-2005 12:56 PM

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u kno u voided warrenty installing it ur self? let alone puttin some boost lovin on the bitch completly voided ur warrenty. consider that motor toast n total loss. they only back the warrenty if u have proof it was professionally installed by certified car people. they find ways to cock u in the face so they dont have to back the warrenty.

drupie51013 10-07-2005 01:22 PM

Re: engine blew again
 

Originally Posted by scottsi


this is you

"dur im gonna put a turbo on my car durr"
"durr okay the turbo is on and the car is running durr thats all that matters durr"
"buhm durr why my engine blow up? me no know, durrr, me put new one in"
"yay new engine turbo again durrrp"
"durr me give up, me am too stoopid to understand any concept of tuning, and to learn from my previous mistakes to why the first engine blew up, so being stubborn and stupid i blew up two engines when i didnt even have to blow up one durr"

stop being stupid, find out what went wrong, why it went wrong, and what you can do to prevent it from happening again

after all that durr i kept on reading on the other post and wanted to read it in durr too! hahah!

Guy-Fast 10-07-2005 01:30 PM

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Um you never said what happened to the motor. Rod through the block,dropped valve etc.

scottsi 10-07-2005 02:13 PM

Re: engine blew again
 
my guess is low compression. if youre not that great at tuning why did you make it a 12:1 a/f ratio, moral of the story, learn to tune conservatively when you dont completely understand what youre doing

BeastBass 10-07-2005 06:37 PM

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low compression isnt going to make a piston or two or four break numbnutz

hotrex 10-07-2005 06:47 PM

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your obviously doing something wrong......

its a poor musician who plames his instrument....

( thanks dave)

darksol2005 10-07-2005 06:49 PM

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dude, your a ------- tool. i'm glad your z got stolen, and i hope your grandma chokes on a horse cock. e-thug niGGa!

scottsi 10-07-2005 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by darksol2005
dude, your a ------- tool. i'm glad your z got stolen, and i hope your grandma chokes on a horse cock. e-thug niGGa!

haha i love how all these newbs try and hate.

darksol2005 10-07-2005 07:29 PM

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i love how faggot wiggers talk ---- on the internet. come to mn and say something. oh wait, you wouldn't be able to get there, your car got jacked

IndianRide 10-08-2005 02:18 AM

Re: engine blew again
 

Originally Posted by scottsi
my guess is low compression. if youre not that great at tuning why did you make it a 12:1 a/f ratio, moral of the story, learn to tune conservatively when you dont completely understand what youre doing

were'nt you the one telling me to learn how to tune, hmm..., also 12:1 is pretty conservative if you ask me, thats rather rich. Also I meant I'm not very fast at it yet, and yes I think I fried the rings again, it was probually bad to begin with and was going since I put it in and just did'nt notice it. I can hide the fact that I boosted it , I have an extra untapped oil pan, stock injectors, and a stock manifold. It won't be very hard.

IndianRide 10-08-2005 02:21 AM

Re: engine blew again
 

Originally Posted by scottsi

Originally Posted by darksol2005
dude, your a ------- tool. i'm glad your z got stolen, and i hope your grandma chokes on a horse cock. e-thug niGGa!

haha i love how all these newbs try and hate.

You know what I think is great, you just called someon who can tune better than you'll ever be able to in your wantabe gangsta life a newb who has been a member longer than you have. I would challenge you to a race cause atleast I still have a car that I can push down the track.

fork 10-08-2005 03:19 AM

Re: engine blew again
 
what was the fuel management, what was eh timing. stuff blows up if its done poopily and you make it blow up there are are other aspects of tuning than your pretty afr

I'm sorry you exploded your engne , dont' give up

IndianRide 10-08-2005 03:35 AM

Re: engine blew again
 
fuel management was uberdata, timing was a little retarded from stock on the dizzy and .9 degrees per pound of boost in uber. I know either i messed something up or something was messed up in the engine but I don't know what yet. I bought the engine from a junkyard so who knows if they were telling me the truth when they said it had 185 comp all the way across, they were selling other f blocks with 130 for compression so who knows. I probually won't give up, I was going to put the car in storage in a couple week anyways, I just really wanted to race it to see what it could do. Maybe I should do it right and build the bottom end and possibly the top, atleast I learned the basics of tuning to some degree.

jinxy 10-08-2005 09:27 AM

Re: engine blew again
 
uhh, what kind of blowing up did the engine do? did you spin a rod bearing or somthing? your oil pickup may have been pluged up. or some other stupid ---- like that. the engine may have been fucked before you bought it.

scottsi 10-08-2005 05:29 PM

Re: engine blew again
 
ive been here for atleast 2 years, probably closer to 2 1/2, ask the real OG's, not you stupid noobs. and youre ------ stupid, 12:1 isnt conservative, where the ---- did you learn to tune? 12:1 is ideal for boost, and 14.7:1 is ideal for NA, learn your ----, you stupid ass noob. and i agree, you should get rid of your old ass orange accord with your ricer fenders. get a minivan, it'll suit you more. some people just arent smart enough to make their car go fast.

btw, i just tuned my friends z6 via uberdata last night, a final tune will come when he hits the dyno. maybe that'll shut your stupid ass up.

jinxy 10-08-2005 05:32 PM

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14.7:1 is alittle lean for na. allot of people run in the mid 13's. factory cars come out between 12-13ish.

jecu 10-08-2005 05:54 PM

Re: engine blew again
 
i think you should just sell your car and give up on the boost, you sound pretty unconfident. Thats what I did. Saves a hell of alot of money :P

Dibble 10-08-2005 06:03 PM

Re: engine blew again
 
After the 2nd motor I blew up, I stop trying to build cars and started learning how.

BoosTedZSix 10-08-2005 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
ive been here for atleast 2 years, probably closer to 2 1/2, ask the real OG's, not you stupid noobs. and youre ------ stupid, 12:1 isnt conservative, where the ---- did you learn to tune? 12:1 is ideal for boost, and 14.7:1 is ideal for NA, learn your ----, you stupid ass noob. and i agree, you should get rid of your old ass orange accord with your ricer fenders. get a minivan, it'll suit you more. some people just arent smart enough to make their car go fast.

btw, i just tuned my friends z6 via uberdata last night, a final tune will come when he hits the dyno. maybe that'll shut your stupid ass up.

i would say 11.5 is ideal for boost. 13.5:1 is good for n/a maybe even high 12's. motor was probably bad to begin with. you should just rebuild it with new components

sushi 10-08-2005 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
14.7:1 is ideal for NA

Wow, stoichiometric afr for a real world car? Note to self, never let you tune my car...

scottsi 10-08-2005 09:04 PM

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dont you know lean makes power! ::) who tunes NA cars anyways?

Ravage70 10-08-2005 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
dont you know lean makes power! ::) who tunes NA cars anyways?

uhhhhhh everyone that tunes anything

buckduey 10-09-2005 03:13 AM

Re: engine blew again
 
learn and grow from your mistakes. i blew a few motors when i first started out but i didn't give up. since then i've learned A LOT more about engines than i ever thought i would. don't give up. :)


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