Election 2004
02-16-2004, 01:24 AM
#61
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Re:Election 2004
---- my bad, i actually went to dictionary.com to prove my point, but worked myself,
de·moc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-mkr-s)
n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
Dammit, oh well, my history teacher was a jackass, and im gonna tell him that. I remember where he lives.
de·moc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-mkr-s)
n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
Dammit, oh well, my history teacher was a jackass, and im gonna tell him that. I remember where he lives.
02-16-2004, 01:27 AM
#62
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Re:Election 2004
Well damnit, heres the definintion or a republic:
A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
So i am right, and wrong, technically, there the same thing. Sheesh.
A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
So i am right, and wrong, technically, there the same thing. Sheesh.
02-16-2004, 03:41 AM
#64
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Re:Election 2004
Democratic Republic.
Imperialist what?
If there were an Imperialist party, believe me, they would have my vote. Our problem is we go in there halfway. We need to wipe out any and all resistance and set up an American colony. Then drain their oil supply completely and build a trans-Atlantic pipeline to get it all over here. Would this be "wrong", no! We are America! We have to look out for ourselves. The majority of the people would have a better chance at life over there anyways under American rule. Whoever mentioned "democracy" as an option for Iraq's new govt. hopefully is just kidding. Wait a few years, if that, and the next tyrant will be in power...
Oh, and yeah, Bush is definitely going to win. It is sad how much the mudslinging that is just getting started has already swayed so many people.
"the sun never sets on the American Empire" ...has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
Originally Posted by nonvtec
Are we going to go into every country on earth if they do something we don't like? It isn't about safety, it's about the United States "freeing" countries at the expense of our troops, they had a thing like this in the 1800's when Britain was colonizing Africa, what was that, oh yeah Imperialism.
If there were an Imperialist party, believe me, they would have my vote. Our problem is we go in there halfway. We need to wipe out any and all resistance and set up an American colony. Then drain their oil supply completely and build a trans-Atlantic pipeline to get it all over here. Would this be "wrong", no! We are America! We have to look out for ourselves. The majority of the people would have a better chance at life over there anyways under American rule. Whoever mentioned "democracy" as an option for Iraq's new govt. hopefully is just kidding. Wait a few years, if that, and the next tyrant will be in power...
Oh, and yeah, Bush is definitely going to win. It is sad how much the mudslinging that is just getting started has already swayed so many people.
"the sun never sets on the American Empire" ...has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
02-16-2004, 04:15 AM
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Re:Election 2004
I don't live in the States....but I would vote for Bush though.
He might have made some mistakes, but I'm down with his moral views.
And about the terrorist...well they come from every middle eastern country, they are raised this way...to hate America and the western world. There are even some middle east guys that come live here in the west that think like that. I know of a few I spoke with that and they said if they were told to blow up sumthing even in the country here they're living they would do it.
I was like , but I kept cool. Bush did good to go to Afghanistan....If i were president I would do the same. They destroyed the WTC and killed a lot of people. The problem actually is the middle easterns them selves (not all of them though)....but a lot of them are raised this way and their religion well .... if you actually read the Koran it says to love your neighbours etc.... but on the other hand it says that anyone who doesn't believe in Allah(isn't muslim) can/should be killed cause it's no sin to kill a non believer(non-muslim). So I don't think terrorism will ever stop, but it can be avoided and we should just be watchfull and keep an eye on these folks.
He might have made some mistakes, but I'm down with his moral views.
And about the terrorist...well they come from every middle eastern country, they are raised this way...to hate America and the western world. There are even some middle east guys that come live here in the west that think like that. I know of a few I spoke with that and they said if they were told to blow up sumthing even in the country here they're living they would do it.
I was like , but I kept cool. Bush did good to go to Afghanistan....If i were president I would do the same. They destroyed the WTC and killed a lot of people. The problem actually is the middle easterns them selves (not all of them though)....but a lot of them are raised this way and their religion well .... if you actually read the Koran it says to love your neighbours etc.... but on the other hand it says that anyone who doesn't believe in Allah(isn't muslim) can/should be killed cause it's no sin to kill a non believer(non-muslim). So I don't think terrorism will ever stop, but it can be avoided and we should just be watchfull and keep an eye on these folks.
02-16-2004, 04:46 AM
#67
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Re:Election 2004
not all muslims are killers.
and Islam/ Quran does state that "do not disbelive on non belivers" ......" only speak .. and fight when ur faith is in danger" .. surly that aint to bad - every repligion has that..
and not all "terrorism comes from Islam or being muslim"
Remeber Semons Islam doesnt say that, and the Quran doesnt eighter, u might "hear ... and listn to people .. who dont have an understanding... " .. Islam is not a religion .. its a way of life.
1 in 3 people are muslim ..... does that mean 1 in 3 are killers... ?
i quote
"but a lot of them are raised this way and their religion well" Islam does not rasie the kids that grow up, its the people they "associate with, can ultmatley change their views"
"He might have made some mistakes, but I'm down with his moral views." ... well well .... I have to say .....
I think ur wrong ... stating that the war is a "crusade"
1) wrong term of words....
Crusade is or was "against" the mulsim world in the middle ages. what does crusade mean = A religious fight!
i have nothing again bush or america people, or any other people on this planet. How ever it does seem like all the "muslim" countries get targeted... Ie afganistan .... and now Iraq .. where are the wepons of mass destruction ... capel of launching in 10 minutes. Whos Next on the list .. Pakistan .. ?? Iran ?? Saudi Arabia ... i dont know ... but ill put my money on Libya or Iran.
I dont say "killing innocent people is right" .. i dont belive the WTC, and all those innocent people who died was right. BUT muslims died in that building, i never saw Cnn /BBC news or any other channel comfirm "muslim deaths"
why not ??
My question to the american people is .....
cant we just live in peace ? in 1 world .. in 1 country...?
oh btw
"vote ibby"
*my views are subject to change, and iam not arguing over whos wrong or right, iam just throwing my 1p's worth in.
and Islam/ Quran does state that "do not disbelive on non belivers" ......" only speak .. and fight when ur faith is in danger" .. surly that aint to bad - every repligion has that..
and not all "terrorism comes from Islam or being muslim"
Remeber Semons Islam doesnt say that, and the Quran doesnt eighter, u might "hear ... and listn to people .. who dont have an understanding... " .. Islam is not a religion .. its a way of life.
1 in 3 people are muslim ..... does that mean 1 in 3 are killers... ?
i quote
"but a lot of them are raised this way and their religion well" Islam does not rasie the kids that grow up, its the people they "associate with, can ultmatley change their views"
"He might have made some mistakes, but I'm down with his moral views." ... well well .... I have to say .....
I think ur wrong ... stating that the war is a "crusade"
1) wrong term of words....
Crusade is or was "against" the mulsim world in the middle ages. what does crusade mean = A religious fight!
i have nothing again bush or america people, or any other people on this planet. How ever it does seem like all the "muslim" countries get targeted... Ie afganistan .... and now Iraq .. where are the wepons of mass destruction ... capel of launching in 10 minutes. Whos Next on the list .. Pakistan .. ?? Iran ?? Saudi Arabia ... i dont know ... but ill put my money on Libya or Iran.
I dont say "killing innocent people is right" .. i dont belive the WTC, and all those innocent people who died was right. BUT muslims died in that building, i never saw Cnn /BBC news or any other channel comfirm "muslim deaths"
why not ??
My question to the american people is .....
cant we just live in peace ? in 1 world .. in 1 country...?
oh btw
"vote ibby"
*my views are subject to change, and iam not arguing over whos wrong or right, iam just throwing my 1p's worth in.
02-16-2004, 05:05 AM
#68
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Re:Election 2004
Originally Posted by ibby
My question to the american people is .....
cant we just live in peace ? in 1 world .. in 1 country...?
america will NEVER be one with the rest of the world. we will not give up our sovernity to the UN.
