E 85 Update
 

So awhile back i posted a topic about how i switched from gasoline to E 85 and got a lot of replies saying that I was gonna ---- up my engine and all. Well its been over 3,000 miles so far and no ill effects. The only downsides to running it has been slow warm up and slightly bad idle but I'm running the hack right now and plan on switching to obd 1 and gettting it tuned so that will hopefully take care of it. Just thought i'd share my experience even though no one gives a ----.

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what are the gains of e85? i have heard better gas mileage and more horsepower but never seen any real results.

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well actually there is a decrease in gas mileage due to the fact that ethanol contains less energy than gasoline does however, ethanol can be run much leaner than gasoline without detonation allowing a good tuner to recover most of the mileage loss. And yes ethanol does burn much more slowly than gasoline does which makes more torque and overall power if the tune is correct. I did it because i'm sick and tired of giving all my money to those mother ------- camel jocky's over seas for their inflated oil prices when i could be giving the money to a local farmer instead for his ethanol production

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lol yeah that sounds good but for the average n/a car its not very good then? right?

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Its fine in a Naturally aspirated vehicle as long as you tune for it. I guess you just have to ask yourself is it worth the work to get off of oil dependence. If not then keep fillin up with gas

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People have barely been running e-85 for a season, and are goin crazy saying everyone's retarded, my fuel system's fine. You're not going to ---- anything up for a long time, and that's if you run e-85 in every tank. Just give it awhile

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Yeah your stock system isn't set to run that much alcohol unless you have a E85 ready car from the factory.

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yeah i know guys my system isn't set up from the factory to run alcohol i know i know, i'm more or less doing this as a test to find out for myself instead of believing everything that everyone else hears once and believes. to me if i'm a car manufacturer and i knew ethanol was going to be in gasoline i wouldn't put parts in my car that were semi ethanol safe i would put parts in the car that were totally safe for use with ethanol so that there would be no problems. this is the basis for my experiment. I'm simply posting results as i go that is all. thanks for the input though

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just sell the car in a few years. another thing to watch out for when buying used cars

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105 octane and cheap as ----.
The question is why do so many of you guy's not run it?
And I dont want to hear any " OMG ethanol will eat away at your fuel system"... People have been running e85 on non-e85 vehicals since it has been availble, with out problems. Just need to tune for it.

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PLATTY9 4 PRESIDENT...

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Where do you get e85? and do you mix it with regular pump gas or run it straight? does it cost more or less than gas, and buy how much?

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Isn't it like 85% gasoline and 15% ethanol or the other way around?? I also think people are gonna see that the whole "OH ETHANOL IS GONNA RUIN YOUR VEHICLE" is just a bunch of BS that politicians and oil tycoons are trying to scare the public with. They want to keep getting rich off of us no matter what the cost...I too would MUCH rather support a US FARMER than those MIDDLE EASTERN NUTJOBS who keep getting richer and richer...I find it funny that the price of a drum of crude oil is as cheap as it has been in years, yet the price of gasoline is out of this world...

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well i live in madison, wi where its commonly available. and i just run it straight and compensate for 30% more fuel with the vafc. Prices vary right now i'm paying $2.49 a gallon cause the oil companies are buying all the ethanol they can for use in gasoline which inflates the price of ethanol. during the winter it was $1.99 a gallon

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yeah its the other way around 85 ethanol 15 gasoline id run 100 ethanol if i could find it but no luck so far

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is it available to you in a pump or is there a special dealer who controls that? i have never seen an e85 pump around central texas area so i don't know, sorry if its a dumb question. Who knows maybe its like race gas, gotta go to someone who supplies it, not at a gas station.

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Give it time...There several ethanol plant proposals in the state of GA at this time...I'm just weary of the oil and ethanol companies working 2gether and the cost of one being just as high as the other...

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Its available at the pump at a few gas stations in my area. Do a google search for E 85 suppliers in your area there are several sites that have a data base of all ethanol stations in the US although i know its mainly a midwest deal you might be able to find one in texas.

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But even with that happening, you will still supporting our economy, not some towl head arab. i would rather pay a little more and give back to my people that to them. and we will be able to produce it here in the states, so prices should go down becuase there isn't a need to ship it across the world now.

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Yeah until the technology improves enough for ethanol production from switchgrass and other plants its gonna be hard to find e 85 everywhere check out my other post about ethanol from CO2 actually ---- it here is the link. its interesting to say the least http://www.oceanethanol.com/site/Oce...20Ethanol.html

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here is some more info about others that have converted their cars
http://www.gt-labs.net/conversionchart.html

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How long do you think that will last? I thought that E 85 cost more than regular gas to produce, which means it should go up like the rest of the gas costs.

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Is there any advantage to just top off a tank with some e85? other than it being slightly cheaper? say like a 60/40 mix 60 gas 40 e85? on a regular dd n/a car with no tune?

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That means E85 @ $2.31usd a gallon = $3usd a gallon of gas.
E85 sucks big ------- donkey nuts unless you're in europe, or south america where it is extremely prevelant
E85 is NOT very prevelant... Nowhere worth a ---- has any kind of mass distrobution of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85_in_the_United_States



e85 = teh stupid

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---- wikislapthemnuts anybody can sas anything there so do some research

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yes thank u drunkin sir

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http://www.americancyclery.com/images/bianchi_bike.jpg

owns the ---- out of e-85

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ok, be VERY aware about E85.

First, it doesn't have to be 85/15 mix. It can be 60/40 or 70/30 in winter months since the ethanol doesn't wanna vaporize.

Unless your willing to sample each tank with a hydrometer for performance tuning......stick with E10 pump gas.

Must read.......

http://www.e85fuel.com/pdf/storing-handling-e85.pdf

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