dyno's
09-19-2008, 11:35 PM
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Re: dyno's
Originally Posted by bigwig
You want some serious advice? Find some kid who reads everything on pgmfi.org and tell him you will be business partners with him. Not in the traditional sense though. He is just some salary ------- and you own the business. You will wrench. He will tune. You will train each other and learn from each other as you work together. He'll make money for the first 3 years while you are poor but if you learn from him you will be set. After that 3 years you should start making money. That is if you succeed.
As for a dyno, FWD dynapacks cost about $45k I believe. I wouldn't buy anything else as they are small and you can still use the bay if you need to. Anything in ground kind of takes that away. Plus dynapacks work extremely well and are very safe, easy to use dynos.
As for a dyno, FWD dynapacks cost about $45k I believe. I wouldn't buy anything else as they are small and you can still use the bay if you need to. Anything in ground kind of takes that away. Plus dynapacks work extremely well and are very safe, easy to use dynos.
thanks for your input. honestly didnt even think about that.
09-19-2008, 11:39 PM
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Re: dyno's
The smartest thing you can do as a business is surround yourself with people smarter than you. If they aren't smarter than you, they better know stuff that you don't know. Businesses where one person does everything generally have growth issues and never take off. The smartest thing you can do is build your business knowing as much as you can but also surround yourself with people that know more than you.
09-20-2008, 12:18 AM
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Re: dyno's
I'm thinking the same as you but without the car wash. A dyno in my native town would be great. There are a lot of kids with sport cars and older drag fan. I think I will have a buisness in website creation too. I already did one and I like that! 
I say go for it if you want to do it!
Somebody want a website? :P
junkyard racer: you will need a website! Let's talk buisness, I'll do it for cheap
I say go for it if you want to do it!
Somebody want a website? :P
junkyard racer: you will need a website! Let's talk buisness, I'll do it for cheap
09-20-2008, 12:34 AM
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Re: dyno's
I plan to start a simple car wash with two or three employees, probably high school kids while I am still doing my day to day job, and I would branch the dyno/minor car repair off of that. The thing with coin operated car washes, its all self sustained. If I can make it a day to day job, then I will leave my govt job and move into that, full time. The ONLY car washes I have seen go under are the ones in the ghetto and not maintained. Even ghetto looking car washes that are maintained, do well. I also am looking into self storage. Between the two, a car wash seems to be the better of the two though.
09-20-2008, 12:35 AM
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Re: dyno's
I say go for it but do your research of course.
We had a to do a business project and our group chose to do an engine build/tune shop.
There is alot more money involved then first thought. Its an awesome idea you have goin for you, but don't forget....
-you can't dump your oil in the drains/ground (but u can take it to the parts store to dump)
-building and/or land rental costs,
-utilities (water and power and phone),
-insurance(s) (on customer cars/building/health)
-equipment you may not have now (whatever that may be wideband, clamps, hoses, welding supplies, etc...)
-cleaning supplies to clean up around the shop
-if u plan on having any vending machines u need a food liscence (but u could do "employee cookouts" for customers if u do a dyno day or something)
Its a great idea to run a business like this and there is a lot of money that "CAN" be made, but the economy is rough....
And I wish you luck with this. My hat's off to you if/when u get this off the ground
Dyno machines are pretty ------ expensive
We had a to do a business project and our group chose to do an engine build/tune shop.
There is alot more money involved then first thought. Its an awesome idea you have goin for you, but don't forget....
-you can't dump your oil in the drains/ground (but u can take it to the parts store to dump)
-building and/or land rental costs,
-utilities (water and power and phone),
-insurance(s) (on customer cars/building/health)
-equipment you may not have now (whatever that may be wideband, clamps, hoses, welding supplies, etc...)
-cleaning supplies to clean up around the shop
-if u plan on having any vending machines u need a food liscence (but u could do "employee cookouts" for customers if u do a dyno day or something)
Its a great idea to run a business like this and there is a lot of money that "CAN" be made, but the economy is rough....
And I wish you luck with this. My hat's off to you if/when u get this off the ground
Dyno machines are pretty ------ expensive
09-20-2008, 12:51 AM
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Re: dyno's
Originally Posted by junkyard racer
So over the past 6 months or so, I have put some serious thought into opening my own business within the next 3 years. I would like to have a car wash (DIY and a automatic, all coin/cash operated) and a small shop on the side for BASIC maint. work, such as oil changes and things like that. I also would like to expand into mobile detailing and mobile oil changes.
I have also thought about having a bay with a dyno. Now, my thing....I have -0- clues on tuning. I could easily get to a efiuniversity class, but really...does that teach you anything, and give you any experience? No.
So, a 100% DIY dyno is in the thought process. How much do dyno's cost? Worth it? Is a dyno nothing more than a selling tool to sell other products? (kinda like a tire machine to sell tires)
My brother-in-law has recently taken over his parents transmission shop, and I tried to talk him into a dyno...so he researched it a bit. He stopped his research when he found out another local shop had a dyno and had to sell out. When I asked him if they advertised, he said they did not. They didnt even have a yellow pages ad, or a phone number in the phone book. Im from N. Indiana...and would plan to put it there. We have SEVERAL circle tracks, 2 drag strips, and tons of 'street machines' in the area...not to mention, the SCCA and road courses within a 200 mile radius. There is also a new motorsports park opening about 40 miles from where I would put the dyno. Hell, the tire rack's main location is about 30 miles south of where I would put the dyno.
thoughts?
I have also thought about having a bay with a dyno. Now, my thing....I have -0- clues on tuning. I could easily get to a efiuniversity class, but really...does that teach you anything, and give you any experience? No.
So, a 100% DIY dyno is in the thought process. How much do dyno's cost? Worth it? Is a dyno nothing more than a selling tool to sell other products? (kinda like a tire machine to sell tires)
My brother-in-law has recently taken over his parents transmission shop, and I tried to talk him into a dyno...so he researched it a bit. He stopped his research when he found out another local shop had a dyno and had to sell out. When I asked him if they advertised, he said they did not. They didnt even have a yellow pages ad, or a phone number in the phone book. Im from N. Indiana...and would plan to put it there. We have SEVERAL circle tracks, 2 drag strips, and tons of 'street machines' in the area...not to mention, the SCCA and road courses within a 200 mile radius. There is also a new motorsports park opening about 40 miles from where I would put the dyno. Hell, the tire rack's main location is about 30 miles south of where I would put the dyno.
thoughts?
09-20-2008, 12:52 AM
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Re: dyno's
I think its a horrible idea. Dude you cant tune and want to invest 50K+in a dyno. Have you looked at insurance rates for dyno owners. I know of 3 shops in my area selling their dynos right now because they are loud,annoying and dont pay the bills. 2 of them are very succesful one being one of the founders of the k series movement with tons of traffic through his shop.
Want the best advice learn a skilled art in automotive field and do it on the side. Im pretty handy with a grinder but the days of major change are upon us and Im not going to fool myself that in 5 years I can still make a living doing what I do.
Want the best advice learn a skilled art in automotive field and do it on the side. Im pretty handy with a grinder but the days of major change are upon us and Im not going to fool myself that in 5 years I can still make a living doing what I do.
09-20-2008, 01:04 AM
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Re: dyno's
The economys not going to be down forever. The end of next year and I think it'll be pretty much back to normal. Your probably not planning on being in business by then anyway so I wouldn't worry about a slow economy. If you have a niche you'll be able to keep work going even in slow times.
I learned alot from the owner of the upull yard a worked for. It's all advertising you put moeny into getting your name out and they will come. If you have the right tuner tuning cars for you then you'll get repeat business. Good Example Widebody93 with his next tuning session will have given 1500 within 6months. to a certain dominate tuner
The guy can't be a one make tuner either. Like joseph and dave it should be if you bring it it gets tuned and money goes in the register.
I learned alot from the owner of the upull yard a worked for. It's all advertising you put moeny into getting your name out and they will come. If you have the right tuner tuning cars for you then you'll get repeat business. Good Example Widebody93 with his next tuning session will have given 1500 within 6months. to a certain dominate tuner
The guy can't be a one make tuner either. Like joseph and dave it should be if you bring it it gets tuned and money goes in the register.
09-20-2008, 01:09 AM
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Re: dyno's
Originally Posted by chris
I think its a horrible idea. Dude you cant tune and want to invest 50K+in a dyno. Have you looked at insurance rates for dyno owners. I know of 3 shops in my area selling their dynos right now because they are loud,annoying and dont pay the bills. 2 of them are very succesful one being one of the founders of the k series movement with tons of traffic through his shop.
Want the best advice learn a skilled art in automotive field and do it on the side. Im pretty handy with a grinder but the days of major change are upon us and Im not going to fool myself that in 5 years I can still make a living doing what I do.
Want the best advice learn a skilled art in automotive field and do it on the side. Im pretty handy with a grinder but the days of major change are upon us and Im not going to fool myself that in 5 years I can still make a living doing what I do.
Like I said, this is nothing more than an idea I have in my head, and something I am brainstorming. The car wash is def. a goal I have, and have no reason it wont work. Now, when I go in front of the city council in the next upcoming years is another story. If I don't ---- bricks the days before that, it will be a miracle. Oil changes, showing someone there air filter, rotating a tire or two is something I have in mind. Small town business, people appreciate these things.
Drop your car off in the morning, pick it up with a fresh oil change, a fresh wax, tires rotated, and a ride to work and back...is something people value.
Those kids who need a place to put a car in the air and look at the underside of there car is the hobby shop idea.
In the Marine Corps, we have hobby shops. We can pull our car into a bay, have a full access to basic tools, your basic backyard mech, and do whatever we want to our vehicles. Its a great thing, in a fun/safe environment My prices wouldn't be like this, but this is what I would base my business off of. http://www.mccscherrypoint.com/autoskills.htm
