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Old 04-16-2007, 11:11 AM
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I'm not even gonna begin to describe what's wrong with this thread.... Have fun with your crankwalk machine of death



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Old 04-16-2007, 11:31 AM
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:51 PM
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I know, but its like winning the special olympics... :1
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:37 PM
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Nah, the Colt doesn't weigh enough to bring out the massive driveline deficiencies of the transmission, and if the wiring isn't up to snuff I'll make him go standalone and construct a vehicle harness out of spare Honduh loom. At that point, there is nothing wrong with his Mitsu I can think of.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:51 PM
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You can run 1g rods in a 2g 7bolt crank/block, the wrist pin diameter on a 6bolt rod is 21mm, it must be enlarged to 22mm 7bolt size. thats it.
You just described what you have to do to run 2g pistons on a 1g rod which is another common mod. To run the 6 bolt rod in a 7bolt the big end needs modified not the wrist pin end. It needs narrowed a few thousandths.
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aero, you and Hitchhikkr need to have babies, and lock them into a dark basement full of machining equipment, metal stock, and DSM transmissions until they figure out hwo to fix those things for good.
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You just described what you have to do to run 2g pistons on a 1g rod which is another common mod. To run the 6 bolt rod in a 7bolt the big end needs modified not the wrist pin end. It needs narrowed a few thousandths.
lol your 100% right, i read thru too fast and misunderstood what he wanted to do. My bad. Im neck deep in a 911 turbo and been a bit scatterbrained most of the day. :1
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I have the 7bolt crank and block and have all the internals for a 6bolt so i want to make it work.
Some people just won't listen
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thanks guys for clearing up the 1g/2g head flow thing, cause that's what i always thought too, but my friend who's been obsessed with dsms since he was 15 (is 20 now) convinced me that through extensive research it was determined that 2g heads themselves are better.

i'll have to correct him.

Is it just because the ports are larger on 1g heads? Is the shrouding of the valves as large an issue on both heads? Some more info would be great, I like dsms despite their pitfalls.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:42 AM
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Is it just because the ports are larger on 1g heads? Is the shrouding of the valves as large an issue on both heads? Some more info would be great, I like dsms despite their pitfalls.
Friend of mine in ATL has a flow bench, did some extensive testing on all the 4g63/61 heads, valve shrouding is a problem if you want big manly power, but for street cars, its not that big a deal. He gave me a printout of his findings, but i cant seem to find it at the moment, so believe me if you want. His results showed that the 7bolt 2g heads flow better at lifts at and below .350 we are assuming the smaller port ie velocity is the cause, looking at the heads, the 1g 6bolt head has larger ports, but the cross-sectional area near the valve is basically the same. At lifts above .400 the 6bolt head owns the 7bolt. I wont even mention the 1.6l head, since it wasnt even comparable to the others. Basically what it boils down to is that unless you have a big nasty cam, and are bouncing the limiter above 8500, yeah the 7bolt heads are probably gonna flow better/more. I'll post that stuff if I can find it.

JD's right, the 4g63 is a badass engine, but everything attached to it blows. The truth about the trannys is that there isnt a problem with them. Its the cars that are too heavy, even stock to be anything more than a pain in the ***. You have to consider, the w5m33's and F5m33's were designed for the evo and cyborg, neither comes close to the wet weight of a dsm. Yeah there was a problem with the blocking rings in the early cars, but thats just mitsu cutting corners like they always do...
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