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I was watching some show on MTV with Puff Daddy about getting young people out to vote today.So they cut to Bruce Banner who is a rapper from Missippi and he goes back to his hood to talk to some kid about his 1st time voting.They showed the kids neighborhood and his house(some run down ---- hole)and I couldnt believe that this place they were showing on T.V was in the U.S.It looked like something you would see in Samalia or some 3rd world country.

Well here is what pisses me off.The kid talked like he was fresh off the plantation.The worst ------- english I have ever heard a human speak.He started rambeling about how life in the hood is so fucked up and that its the politicians fault that they live the way they do.He was saying he was mad becouse white people have nice schools and they dont.He was saying that its local politicians fault that people in his comunity dont have jobs.He blamed crime and drugs in his neighborhood on politicians.He said that is was because they didnt care.

Does this make annyone else upset?

Well that really pissed me off.That is the problem In the U.S.People like to pass the buck for their lazyness and ignorance.Thats why places like this exist in the most powerfull nation in the world.

Im mexican.I grew up in the ghetto.I grew up around gang bangers and crack dealers.I went to a fucked up high school where the teachers didnt care.But I got a ------- job at 17.Moved out the hood.Bought my 1st house at age 24 and now I own my 2nd house out right.

Untill people like this get a clue that they are ignorant and lazy they can vote all they want,but nothing will ever change.

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How can they have all black colleges and not all white colleges? At least, they try to elimnate blacks from the colleges, but they can't do it explicitly.

I am not racist.. but does that seem fair?

You could say they are being repaid for the slavery ----. But, how long must we repay them.. for the rest of out life?

I am white, I grew up with all different people, black, white, mexican, arab... etc. I don't have a problem with anyone. I just hate the mentality that "everyone owes me something" try living with a roomate that believes that ----.

Pisses me off.

Or, a good one "you can't do that in the apartment.." (like he pays more rent than me.. ::))blah blah. People think that they own everything.. that is another type of mentality that I can't stand.

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I hear ya. I grew up in the ghetto and went to ghetto schools, I own my 2nd home now at 23, And all my cars and toys are paid for. ;D

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I feel your pain man, but thats america. your free to do as you please.

but i totally understand where you are comming from

everyone can live the "american dream" if they choose. some choose not to.

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No, places like this exist in the US because you need people like him to make $3.25/hr to pump your gas/bag groceries/sell you weed/get themselves killed in iraq, etc. If everyone made a decent wage, you'd all be poor as all hell. A poor manual workforce maintains the factors of production, and accelerates the growth of an economy.

There, I feel so Republican!

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That's pure bullshit. People like that are a drag on the workforce that propels america. they arn't reliable, and make low enough to still collect welfare. which is paid for by real workers, and taxpayers. they probably love in gov't housing too. ok if you really need a boost. but only that-a boost, not a handout for life.

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what's with the novel size posts lately ???

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Well, I'm Native American, where's my Native American College? Where's my money since my ancestors were used as slaves as well, killed, and had all their land taken away? The US government took Indians right from their tribes and made them slaves. The black slaves from Africa were POW's from when the local tribes fought. We didn't just go over and pick them off, they were selling themselves.

That crap makes me mad though.

And dropgear, I pump my own gas. Bag my own food. Grow my own weed (ok, not really, but I could!). Those scumbags aren't necessary in this world. So you think drug dealers are a necessary part of our society then?

But yes, I hate when people pass the blame on others for their downfalls.

and stenseltizm, I agree with you, ya newb :P

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/\ i dont know G, dats whut we herrd around herre.

an i'rs gonna boo-st my redin skillz. ya herd my?

;)

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and stenseltizm, I agree with you, ya newb :P
yeah i don't usually post, but that type of thinking pisses me off. Once you pass puberty, you're responsible for yourself. Quit blaming everyone else, and take the harder road, be responsible for yourself.

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some of that is true bout the white schools and stuff are alot better then some black schools, but there are some that are the other way around. im black and grew up in the the hood in harlem, ny i know how it is, i move on up now i live ft laudedale in a very high class neighborhood. people choose the way they live so there is no excuse or to blame it on anybody.


peace

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no ---- right. ^^^^

just searched "programs for immigrants" on yahoo and pulled a bunch of ---- up.
at least use my tax dollars for something. learn the ------ language.

I dont feel 1 bit sorry for you.
sorry.

wait, i do feel sorry for you, im sorry that your mother is puttin you into the situation.

my $.02, if you want to get anywhere, ------- leave your mom, take your brother and venture out on your own. leave the state, find a factory job and live off the govt for a few months. everyone else does it, why not you?

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Dude, you're just being confrontational. You surely understand that you're surrounded and served daily by people that make a lot less than you and have trouble making ends meet, right? That ig'nant black kid is basically on the extreme end of that setup.

This is all speculative, but I bet even if he wanted to go to school, I bet his school isn't even worth going to. If his parents get a job, they'd lose his health benefits. If he got a job, traveling to that job would cost him more than the money he make (in lost time, transportation costs, and welfare benefit). Who the ---- would hire him anyways?

Not everyone can be an entrepreneur. Not everyone can go to post-secondary school. But the least you can do is take care of your own, and stop blaming THEM for the failings of a system that has helped YOU.

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Yeah schools are a totally different topic, but i still think you can get an education anywhere if you want it. It may not be from a professional institution, but i made good money when i was basically an aprenticed woodworker. you just gotta look up to someone better than a piece of ---- with no goals

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how does the system help me? i make enough that i can't get on welfare, (even if i wanted to) i cant' afford health insurance, but i pay for eveyone elses with my taxes. my last trip the er for doin something stupid cost me couple grand that i gotta come up with out of pocket. i have my own business, but i don't get paid and havn't for like 4 months. but i still technically do cause i work for myself, so i don't get gov't benefits

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at least your tryin. you can obvesiouly speak english well.
this kids mom cant, and its ruining her kid's life.

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You obviously can't type English well ;)

But yeah.. people who are lazy/ignorant just make me mad. Go out and do something to better yourself.

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Do you avoid public roads? Were you not educated in public schools, protected by public police officers, defended by a military, alloted rights by a Constituion, pay some of the lowest taxes in the world, etc.? You're part of the system, and it has benefitted you. You are lucky enough (and intelligent enough) to run your own business! Awesome! But don't you think you'd be even better served by this system you exist in if you could do something to help those people who are dragging it down?

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yeah sorry about the rant, its just my opinion that people in a shitty situation hold themselves back by buying into handouts, and blaming others for their misfortune. I can't answer my phone for bill collectors, but i don't give up. i just focus on the nice payoff when i succede and can pay of all my debt with my fist pay. which should be in 2 weeks

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How the ---- did I manage to figure out how to survive in the world? I stopped ------- up and got my ---- together. I go to work everyday, I don't do drugs, I don't rob people, I don't commit crime, I'm resposible and reliable. It's not ------- rocket science.

I see shitheads all the time who talk about not having money to do this and that, but they call into work sick every other day and smoke a pack of cigarettes a day along with $60 a week on weed, plus whatever other drugs they do. I just want to smack the ---- out of them. You god damn stupid mother fucker, stop being such a lazy worthless piece of ---- and go to work everyday a to pay your bills. Your ------- teeth are already rotten and falling out so it's about time to stop the drugs. You have enough spare time to sit yur dumbass on the couch for 12 hours a day while you smoke weed so you better have the time to go to work. God damn that ---- pisses me off.....


It always gets me when people tell me "You're just lucky you got a good job...." How the ---- am I "lucky"? I go to work everyday knowing in order to pay my bills I have to bust my ass. If I want to get anywhere in life I have to get up and go to work and make the most of it. I didn't just wake up one morning and "get lucky" and that was it. It's not like I'm in some executive office making 300k a year with a 401k. I'm not a lazy ---- who wants to skate thoruhg life working the minimum amount possible in order to barely get by. :-\

Now look what you started. >:(
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actually I consider myself luck to have gotten an education from that public school. I went to the same school as sin, and it wasn't even as bad. It is another type of gov't handout. The school has nothing to keep it up to par with the rest of school systems. It still gets that gov't funding. And if a kid gives them trouble, they actually lean on them to drop out. this boosts their raiting which = more gov't funding. Like I said, no matter where you are its up to you to want an education and have to work for it

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what boost said

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amen boost.
i wish 99% of the stupid fucks in america would figure that out.


not to many people in this country that are wealthy or even middle class do it by not busting there ass and working 50 hours a week.

its pretty simple really.
you work hard, do your best at everything in life, your life will reward you.

you want to sit on your ass and do nothing, well that will pay off with........you guessed it
















nothing.

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i went through my parents divorce and lived with my dad.. he was on social security because of a motorcycle accident.

i remember what it was like to not have any money and to look for it outside to buy food and go to food banks for help. it is not fun, but there are things you can do to help yourself out.

it was tough for my dad, because he could not work. if you can work though, then all you need to do is try. but when you sit there and dont do ---- and then bitch about it.. its like the people that dont vote and then complain about who is president. ya your vote doesnt really help much, since it is the electoral college that makes the final decision.. but you can vote for the electoral college members..

i dont think you have room to complain if you have never been there or you are just too lazy.

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Just look at Donald125 or whatever, I get the impression that he lives in a tight spot, and he's making a sacrifice to advance himself and his family. He's not just looking for a handout

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Yeah, but I hear he's asian so and eats dogs. :-X


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man Justin, you got a easy life.

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Huh? ???
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oh ----...yeah thats the one race who got fucked over the most...

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Well Im glad Im not the only one that feels angerd by lazy people.

Why do grown people settle for working at a fast food joint or at some other job that pays minimum wage.The word minimum should be no where in a grown persons economic state.I believe we all have the ability to make good money.But like Justin said it just takes dailey determination wich alot of people lack,to go out every day and bust there ass.

I think the bigest problem is work ethics.People expect to show up to a job and get paid alot of money to do little to no work.Thats bullshit!I busted my ass for 11 years working as an electrician.6 years of that with 1 company.I started making $35k a year and ended up making $71k.Im not special.All I did was show up to work,give my 100% and make the company money.I was rewarded by never having a day off of work in 6 years from lack of work.(wich is hard in construction).

I think the public assistance programs should be changed and given to working people that actually have jobs but dont have benifits.It should be to where you earn assistance not just get it for being worthless.

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I'm going on 7 years. :-*

I can't believe when I pull into a fast food place and see some dude in his 30's flipping burgers. I just think to myself "What the ---- did you do so wrong in life that you're here right now?". I'm too damn proud at the age of 23 to work in a fast food restaurant and this guy is in his 30's? That's rediculous. How can you provide for a family, as a man, making minimum wage? Isn't there something you can be doing to be making more money? Fast food is for high school students working for beer money, not grown men trying to support a family.

Some of these people aren't even on drugs. It's just lack of ambition and laziness. If you don't have the drive and the motivation to succeed, you probably won't. :-\
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I get the point, but I don't understand why it bothers people so much. First off, at least he has a job. Secondly, if he was a motivated, educated guy, you'd be paying $9.49 for a cheeseburger meal. Thirdly, live and let live. For all you know, this guy just took a massive step forward and got a legit job, rehabilitated his drug problem, etc. etc.

Particularly when I was in the army, I learned then that nothing is ever as simple as it seems. The kid who can hold a steady job down at McD's despite the fact that his dad breaks frying pans over his head every few days (true story) is twice the man any of us are..

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hey that's a great success story there 24 yo. people shouldn't blame society when they're adults for their fucked up cituations. but, ones' surroundings can certainly influence their decisions if they have a weak mind. atleast 70% of the population or higher have weak minds that can be easily manipulated by their surroundings, those are the ones that blame others for their problems.

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So since he was a complete pile of ---- drugee before he scored a high paying job at McDonalds I should feel blessed? ??? Good for him for cleaning hi act up and being a productive member of society, but shmae on him for being a low life shitbag before that.

Do you feel better now?
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take note donald125 :-*

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for the most part..i agree. but if it is the only thing he could get, to at least try to make money for his family..a futile effort, but at least he's attemting to make it work.

Ben

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For the most part (IMHO), poverty is from ill motivated people that grew up on welfare and see welfare as an option.

I run a loan office in MN for students that are in financial "emergencies". Typically, these "emergencies" are just being short on rent because they went out last month and spent too much money. Kids that grow up in good financial situations, go broke trying to keep up that standard of living without working, it's stupid.

As for the repayment to slavery to the Native's and blacks, our generations living today didn't do ---- compared to historical events. Yeah, your race got treated like ---- by some dumbass white guys and fucked up life for your ancestors, but that was then, this is now. If you expect society to kiss your ass for mistakes made a long time ago that a lot of people know were wrong, that's bull.

If you come up to me and expect special treatment because you feel you were wronged by "my" people in some way. I will laugh in your face. If you are in America and a citizen in this day and age, you are "my" people, I don't care if you are a different color/religion/etc you are still "American". The ---- that has happened in the past is not something I'm ashamed of, because I didn't do it. I don't agree with a lot of things our coutry's Gov't has done, but I'm not ashamed to be an American because of those things I had no control over.

Yeah it sucks that some communities are much worse off than others, but I'm in no position to better the world. I like to think that if I was, I would make a difference, but that's just a nice thought, it doesn't help anyone.

Sorry for the rambling, it probably didn't make much sense, but I'm no shakespeare. I've got to get back to helping these students.

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Don't feel blessed, feel empathy. Understand that quality of life is a relative thing, and not everyone has the drive and motivation you speak of.

And sadly no, I don't feel better.

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I would have to agree with some of the points that are being said. But most blacks beleive since there in this country they should get a free ride. Look at the child support system. Women rather get pregnant from a guy who looks like he has money b/c of what he drives. A bad mistake in a black males life can cost him his future in terms of getting a job. If he's 13yrs old and sells crack/dope and his moms his hook on dope and she's not taking care of him and the other kids that she has. Then that's a problem, if he get's knock by the cops then he'll have to go to juvi and do a little bid. I don't justify this but seen it happen a few times. Some black kids go to school an get good grades then die over some bullshit that happens on the street. Alot of blacks and hispanics,etc think that welfare is the answer but there going to start cutting welfare so your going to start seeing alot of proverty. In Ny they have the females on welfare work for their money instead of sitting home picking up a check.