Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
05-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Originally Posted by Koby
I'm guessing he mis-understood them. I've been over this topic before a few times. It seems to be pretty common that people think compression goes up, when they clean the engine out. Not sure why so many people think this.
Haha, I remember reading an article in a magazine a long time ago. They took a bone stock 92-95 Civic to the track and strapped it to a dyno. The thing had like a million miles on it and produced more horsepower then it came with stock. They came to the conclusion that it had higher compression due to the massive carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.
That's some funny ----."hey kids! want a faster car? put a few thousand miles on that bitch +1hp!"
05-30-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
Nope. Didn't misunderstand them. "They" are my friends who are looking for the quick cheap HP pick-up, I guess. They are doing this to raise compression in the engine. It supposedly swells the piston making a tighter seal and raising the compression. I was "ROFL" because I don't listen to everyone's BS and my buddy did it to his car and it runs like poop now. I doubt it was the water because it happened a day or 2 AFTER he sprayed the water. I just like asking about these kinda things because I get raped about my knowledge about cars and these nignogs are spraying water in there engine to get the extra "boost" they need. 
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05-30-2005, 08:38 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
lol the good ol water trick.
ive read up on this so ill put some info here aswell.
in the world of rotarie engines, we get allot of carbon build up. when we rev the snot out of our cars, a lil piece of carbon slamming into an apex seal could knock the apex seal and the apex seal will most likely break and take out everything on its relentless path o destruction.
so what do we do? we use the water trick. basically what we do is tap a vacume line ( mush better than spraying the water in there directly) and just dup the hose into a gallon of water. it will spuit and sputter but you gotta keep it revved up. steam will start to exit the exhaust and eventually once you have the a gallon of water through your engine your good to go. nice and shiney on the inside and the steam even cleaned your cats and mufflers and black water/---- should have sprayed all over neighboring friends/ animals/ objects.
now this will slightly increase compression because there is added extra ---- in the combustuon chamber. on a piston engine the engine mus be warmed up pretty good. this is because the moment the water hits the combustion chamber, it gets super heated and unstantly turns int steam. this can be compressed. this increses compression slightly. but not significant enough.
it also cleans your combustion chamber well because it swirls inside luterally scrubbing every pore. knocking lose carbon.
thats my $.02
ive read up on this so ill put some info here aswell.
in the world of rotarie engines, we get allot of carbon build up. when we rev the snot out of our cars, a lil piece of carbon slamming into an apex seal could knock the apex seal and the apex seal will most likely break and take out everything on its relentless path o destruction.
so what do we do? we use the water trick. basically what we do is tap a vacume line ( mush better than spraying the water in there directly) and just dup the hose into a gallon of water. it will spuit and sputter but you gotta keep it revved up. steam will start to exit the exhaust and eventually once you have the a gallon of water through your engine your good to go. nice and shiney on the inside and the steam even cleaned your cats and mufflers and black water/---- should have sprayed all over neighboring friends/ animals/ objects.
now this will slightly increase compression because there is added extra ---- in the combustuon chamber. on a piston engine the engine mus be warmed up pretty good. this is because the moment the water hits the combustion chamber, it gets super heated and unstantly turns int steam. this can be compressed. this increses compression slightly. but not significant enough.
it also cleans your combustion chamber well because it swirls inside luterally scrubbing every pore. knocking lose carbon.
thats my $.02
05-30-2005, 08:45 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
"they" sound pretty retarded. HOWEVER, water/alcohol injection does work and I know this from experience. Its like steam cleaning your engine. It keeps it VERY clean. I used water injection on my Jackson setup with very good results. The sole idea is to cool intake temps allowing for more timing and fuel. You have to get the right atomization for it to be effective. Just a few squirts in there wont do ---- lol. Mine was setup to trigger at 6psi of boost. It shot a very fine mist directly into the intake and cooled the intake charge almost 30 degrees instantly. Thats where your HP increase comes from.
05-30-2005, 09:03 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
Originally Posted by Bizzar
"they" sound pretty retarded. HOWEVER, water/alcohol injection does work and I know this from experience. Its like steam cleaning your engine. It keeps it VERY clean. I used water injection on my Jackson setup with very good results. The sole idea is to cool intake temps allowing for more timing and fuel. You have to get the right atomization for it to be effective. Just a few squirts in there wont do ---- lol. Mine was setup to trigger at 6psi of boost. It shot a very fine mist directly into the intake and cooled the intake charge almost 30 degrees instantly. Thats where your HP increase comes from.
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05-30-2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
if you want some more compression, jsut drop some B-B's down the spark plug holes....it should work good...the more B-B's the higher the compression...jsut don't over do it newb
05-30-2005, 09:49 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
Originally Posted by spoon fed
if you want some more compression, jsut drop some B-B's down the spark plug holes....it should work good...the more B-B's the higher the compression...jsut don't over do it newb
it ultimatly lowers compression mainyl because your engine blows up.
05-30-2005, 10:10 PM
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Re: Distilled Water into Intake = More Compression...
Originally Posted by Koby
They are not as retarded as you think.
Over time you build up a lot of carbon on the pistons. This accually will RAISE the compression of your motor, and potentially cause knock/detonation.
Water is a really old school way of cleaning the engine out, and doesn't work that great. But it DOES work to clean off your pistons and break the carbon up on them.
Nowadays there are products like mopar combustion chamber cleaner (MCCC) http://www.vfaq.com/mods/MCCC.html (this guide is for DSM's but can be used on any car) It works great. I've do it around every 10,000 miles on my cars. Keeps the pistons shiny clean and free of buildup.
A lot of old school carbureted engine guys still do the water cleaning, but not so much anyone in the FI world that I am aware of.
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Over time you build up a lot of carbon on the pistons. This accually will RAISE the compression of your motor, and potentially cause knock/detonation.
Water is a really old school way of cleaning the engine out, and doesn't work that great. But it DOES work to clean off your pistons and break the carbon up on them.
Nowadays there are products like mopar combustion chamber cleaner (MCCC) http://www.vfaq.com/mods/MCCC.html (this guide is for DSM's but can be used on any car) It works great. I've do it around every 10,000 miles on my cars. Keeps the pistons shiny clean and free of buildup.
A lot of old school carbureted engine guys still do the water cleaning, but not so much anyone in the FI world that I am aware of.
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