did timing belt, spun rod bearing
 

anyone ever had anything like this happen? I did a timing belt on a friends dad's del sol. It's about the 25th D-series timing belt I've done, knocked it out in just under 2 hours. Started it up and almost instatly started knocking. I pulled apart the bottom end with the engine in the car, #1 rod bearing was spun. Any idea's how it could have happened? Ran perfect before the belt, 120k on it, timing belt is dead on.

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:-\ ive bever heard a rod bearing immediatly knocking, even if theirs no oil pressure. usualy takes it alittle to be audiable.

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it has nothing to do with the belt.
Did u make sure it ran fine before u take everything apart ? :l sounds like ur buddy is tryign to blame it on u :l

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Rod bearings = no oil pressure. Oil pump is driven off the crankshaft. Timing belt drives the camshaft and water pump - nothing to do with oil pressure.

Let me guess, 96+ Del Slo with the junk ass D16Y oil pump?

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how can y pumps suck that bad? My motor has like 100k on it and i've never had a problem with it

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well, I had a set of Y-series bearings laying around, amazingly one of them plasti-gauged w/in spec, so I replaced the #1 rod bearing. Started it up, and it was quiet for about 30 seconds then it started knocking again. The rod looked fine, and the journal looked fine.

The old bearing is ground down on the cap side, and the rod side has a dimple about 1mm in diameter right in the middle of the journal surface.

The car was fine before, I drove it from his house to my house. He hasn't even seen the car since I left, so yeah...wtf do I do now? I figure I'll offer to install an engine for free, but I only have a couple OBD0 engines around, nothing with the knock sensor stuff he will need.

Oh, and yeah, it's a 96 Del Sol w/ the shitty Y-series oil pump.

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damn that sucks .. i hate doing free work when its not your fault but i do it and im sure there is people on here who do it also .. helps with repeat customers ..

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um knock can be relocated to many areas of the engine to keep it happy

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huh?

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i loved you in Above the Law

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you can move the knock sensor :P

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---- him, he bought a D16Y motor, he can pay. You don't have to do free ---- because he bought a substandard engine.

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Felt the need to check in here...it's my dad's Del Sol. And yes as far as I knew it ran perfect before the timing belt, my dad likes to keep his cars in good shape.

Me trying to blame it on krustin?
"---- him he bought a D16Y motor, he can pay"?

Not quite like I remembered this place...

Unfortunately this bearing problem has arisen...I would have much rather seen it surface after a shop did the t-belt/waterpump than after a best friend of mine did it, but I guess it happens and there is nothing to do but get it fixed right now.

Now instead of pointing fingers and placing blame, how about some helpful comments so that we can get this problem figured out.

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My helpful comments were to prevent krusty from working himself to death over something that isn't his fault. If it was a 4.3 V6, with notorious rod bearing problems, no one would even suggest it was the mechanics fault if he worked on a non-oil pressure area of the engine and then it promptly fell apart. Well, news flash, despite the unfailability hype Honduh got some things wrong - D16Ys and non-H22 Prelude/Accord motors are know for rod bearing problems, and all Honduh auto transmissions are poop.

Nothing here to figure out, it's a rod knock and the rod itself is damaged, a timing belt doesn't cause this damage, krusty needs to get paid if he's taking care of you whether or not he's your friend. Time for an engine, holmes.

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althought i wont be as harsh. i do agree that a t-belt has nothing to do w/ the rod knock. Just a bad coincidence.

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ouch, being a bit harsh. Nobody said I wasn't getting paid, in fact when I dropped the car off his dad had a check waiting for me, I did turn it down though. I told him I would take it after we got the rod bearing issue solved. Now I'm looking for an engine...

btw...

Name: Joseph Davis
Date Registered: February 18, 2003, 10:24:36 AM

Name: DJ0820
Date Registered: December 12, 2002, 08:25:45 AM

-Dustin

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Name: IchBinSoBose
Date Registered: December 7, 2002, 09:15:07 PM

::)

All your rod bearings are belong to us.

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Did you change the oil at the same time you did the timing belt? Did you check the oil level before/after doing all of this BEFORE starting up? Any oil leaks around the motor that would cause concern?

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As far as I knew, no oil leaks

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Eh, I read that as an ASSumption that it was your fault.

You must love old boy (or his momma) if you're doing free engine swaps for him.

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it's his sister I'm after ;)

minor rear main leak, no other leaks. oil was at the low dot.

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No good deed goes unpunished

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wow, sounds like his sister is in pretty good working order

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Bad luck is what it is, I work on cars everyday and sometimes something like that will happen, working on a area of the car and something else gets fucked up.

Whats the right thing to do? Explain to the dad the situation.. hopefully he will understand. Your not liable for what happened. But being your probably a nice guy your probably going to put a motor in for free. So I'd ask his dad to buy a case of beer and maybe some nudies of his daughter. haha ;)

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I say for the dad to hand over the daughter for labor done. It's a nice barter I think. I have to say that my old y7 held 14psi using a rhb5 pretty good for 3 months running just on a bluebox. Hell even after it spun a bearing i still drove it but just not over 3k cause it wouldnt knock under that. Ran until the day I pulled it out. Though I'm checking out a 97 4dr LX if I sell my Z. Need a family ride cause my corolla got me a nice 340 dollar ticket. :7 State patrol officers don't like exhausts that just consist of a glasspack and set of harley softtail pipes with baffles removed that is side exited. :6 Damn exhaust ticket was more then the 15 over speeding ticket. :3