Did I Scam This Guy?
i want to tell my story to see if i can sleep at night or if i should do something about this.
i sold an airplane flap to a guy in new zealand. he paid for just the cost of the flap through paypal and said he would setup the shipping. i said ok and took the flap to my shipper. i told him what it was worth and where it was going. i paid my shipper to box the flap and hold on to it till the buyer's company picked it up. fast forward, the flap arrives in new zealand slightly damaged and the buyer is pissed and wants me to cover damages due to "poor packaging". i told him that it was the shipping company's problem, they didnt handle it properly. he said, they wouldnt pay. i then asked him if he insured it. he said no. in my opinion i dont owe him a damn thing. if he would have insured it, there wouldnt be an issue. he filed a claim with paypal and they took my side and didnt give him a refund. then in awesome form, he calls me up 3 times, drunk, calling me all sorts of names and that scamming is "the american way" and all kinds of ----. anyway, should i do anything or just say screw it and paypal thinks im right. |
It depends what did he say to paypal maybe he liyed something..?
You have to explain to paypal... |
paypal has already closed the case and said i dont have to pay him. i just want to make sure i really am in the right and didnt just get lucky
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i think you're in the right here. The guy who bought your "flap" totally fucked himself by not insuring his purchase. I would never ship anything without the insurance - he was just trying to save a buck and now he's blaming you. What a prick.
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apparently from his attitude he knows you are right as well. If you still have those voice messages i suggest you record them on your computer if at all there are any future complications
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thats kind of what i thought. he got to the name calling and bashing pretty quickly. i have handled all of my conversations with him professionally and politely.
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Did he send any proof the flap was damaged? I've been around airplanes before and know that they're delicate, but he could try to be scamming you.
You said you paid the shipper to package the flap... if that is the case, I would go after the shipper if I were him. You had nothing to do with the packaging first hand. Sounds to me like he's after the wrong people, either way, you can sleep soundly. |
that sux, but i dont think intentionally scammed the guy. Ask for proof of damage and go from there. Then again if I got something and it was damaged I would be pissed too.
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he sent me pics. the damage isnt all that bad. i know i could fix it. my day job is working on airplanes. i dont think he is trying to scam me, he is just trying to get me to pay for his mistake.
again, the dispute with paypal is over and they decided in my favor. i am not being forced to do anything, but i just didnt feel great about it and wondered what other people though. after some time i feel fine with it now |
I think you did everything you could for the guy. Paypal is usually fair when dealing with things like that when given all the details. Just move one.
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i would say ---- that guy the first time he started with an attitude. name calling is childish and he did not insure it. the only time its ok to not insure something is when its really sturdy like a manifold or something like that when it wont crack or break from shitty handling
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You sound like a good man. there are not to many of us out there. But I wouldn't feel bad for this guy. Its his problem not yours.
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I think it's the shipper who's to blame
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I wouldn't worry about it, this guy obviously fucked up and knows it. He is basically trying to get you to fix his mistake. I say too bad for him...
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make sure you explain to paypal everything like it was theres a chance you will win
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i dont know, its his fault for not insuring it but maybe u could (next time) ensure that the shipper knows that it can be damaged easly and make sure it gets packed better.
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international shipping w/o insurance on a fragile part....he's a ------- tard.
Was the packaging damaged? |
this kind leaps out...
" i paid my shipper to box the flap and hold on to it till the buyer's company picked it up." if he had paid for the boxing or packing... the its his problem.. but since you were responsible for the packing... its really a tough call i hope it gets resolved |
he finally stopped emailing me. all is well now.
thanks for all of the input though. i really dont feel bad. i still cant believe he didnt insure it |
case closed dont do ne thing
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dont worry about it, paypal get the last say.
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