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street_kings 08-25-2004 08:36 PM

Dept. of Justice Raids P2P User's Homes
 
Today the U.S. Department of Justice launched an assault on P2P filesharing. Using search warrants, they searched five homes and the offices of one ISP. This is the first time the department has applied such drastic measures against file sharers and comes shortly after courts ruled that P2P networks cannot be held responsible for copyright infringement. Attorney General John Ashcroft announced the raids today saying that individuals from Texas, New York and Wisconsin were under investigation. The Operation has been named Operation Digital Gridlock and is targeting the illegal sharing of movies, games, software and music.

This is not surprising however, as the U.S. Government seems to always have sided with the entertainment industry in the fight against P2P trading. Even a comprehensive study at Harvard revealed that P2P doesn't have much of an effect on sales.

"When online thieves illegally distribute copyrighted programs and products, they put the livelihoods of millions of hard-working Americans at risk and damage our economy,” Ashcroft said. "The Department of Justice is committed to enforcing intellectual property laws, and we will pursue those who steal copyrighted materials even when they try to hide behind the false anonymity of peer-to-peer networks." Ashcroft did not explain what he meant by false anonymity. They believe the individuals and the ISP were operating five P2P networks known as, The Underground Network.

In this network each individual had to share a minimum of 100GB. Even a first time offender could receive up to five years in prison or a whopping $250,000 fine. The department also reminded citizens that illegal trading and piracy costs U.S. companies in excess of $19bn every year. This, of course, is coming without any study that's comprehensive enough to backup these claims. Even the entertainment industry itself refuses to make a study to see if P2P helps in any way. It seems this may have been a response to a decision made by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals which backs up the legality of P2P networks.

The court had warned the DoJ and entertainment industry not to get in the way of the technological advancements of P2P. This ruling however, does not protect people sharing illegal files.

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Dr.Boost 08-25-2004 08:39 PM

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Oh ----, that reminds me, I need to start WinMx up so I can finish downloading my porn. :)

EDIT: Nevermind, it was already running. ;)
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87na_rx7 08-25-2004 08:39 PM

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damn 100 gb minimum, thats some hardcore ----

Dr.Boost 08-25-2004 08:41 PM

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I have 14540 megs. Is that alot? ???
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87na_rx7 08-25-2004 08:42 PM

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thats a lil over 14 gigs... all in porn?

Dr.Boost 08-25-2004 08:48 PM

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Nah, there is some music in there. ;)
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con 08-25-2004 08:50 PM

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move to canada your safe hear ;)

dragon 08-25-2004 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Oh ----, that reminds me, I need to start WinMx up so I can finish downloading my porn. :)

EDIT: Nevermind, it was already running. ;)


is that any good Boost winmix? its it better than Limewire? I have a mac so im trying to find the best download site :P

Dr.Boost 08-25-2004 09:13 PM

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I've never used LimeWire, but WInMX kicks ass. I love it. It's so much better than Kazaa. I ------- hate Kazaa.
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HondaTuner 08-25-2004 09:13 PM

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That's freaking stupid. If I didnt download these songs to my pc, know what I'd do? Live without them. I would still only listen to the radio, and more than likely this hasn't affected my purchasing of CD's.

BlackDragon, WinMX is pretty good, check it out ;D

dragon 08-25-2004 09:19 PM

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Really? so you and Boost thinks its the ---- huh? will it work with mac?

Dr.Boost 08-25-2004 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
That's freaking stupid. If I didnt download these songs to my pc, know what I'd do? Live without them. I would still only listen to the radio, and more than likely this hasn't affected my purchasing of CD's.


Same here. I haven't bought a CD in years. Put it this way, Eminems first CD was the last CD I ever bought. ;) I'm not into waisting $15 on a CD that will get trashed in a few weeks, plus most CD's only have one or two good songs on them. :-\



Originally Posted by BlackDragon
Really? so you and Boost thinks its the ---- huh? will it work with mac?

I've never used mac either, but I know WinMx is the ----. ;)
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HondaTuner 08-25-2004 09:23 PM

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Guess not :-\

" Requirements
Windows 98 / ME / 2000 / XP
Pentium 166 w/ 64MB ram or better recommended "

Doesn't say anything about Mac.. sorry man

88CrxSiT 08-25-2004 09:24 PM

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Damn at least their not ------ with IRC yet..

AgentMurdoc 08-25-2004 09:29 PM

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damn that's some crazy ----. :o

HondaCrx1991 08-26-2004 12:39 AM

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Win Mx Sucks...The porn neverdownloads and have a DSL...I use Ares. Its the best for porn and music. Alot easier than WinMx.

Dr.Boost 08-26-2004 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HondaCrx1991
Win Mx Sucks...The porn neverdownloads and have a DSL...I use Ares. Its the best for porn and music. Alot easier than WinMx.

I'm having no problems downloading porn. I've got a pretty nice collection of Jenna Jameson and Lexus Locklear built up. I even have a bit of Jordan Capri. 8)
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dragon 08-26-2004 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HondaCrx1991
Win Mx Sucks...The porn neverdownloads and have a DSL...I use Ares. Its the best for porn and music. Alot easier than WinMx.

yeah i cant download win mx how is Ares? is that compatiable with mac?

B00M3R 08-26-2004 12:09 PM

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I use Shareaza. It's clean, simple and works great. It also controls all my bit torrent downloads too.

dragon 08-26-2004 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by B00M3R
I use Shareaza. It's clean, simple and works great. It also controls all my bit torrent downloads too.

were you answering my questiong or just posting a reply to the topic?

warren_teg 08-26-2004 01:08 PM

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everybody should use MIRC.com

SkunT 08-26-2004 01:09 PM

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emule. my wife has loaded over 600 songs from there....


we are fucked.

87na_rx7 08-26-2004 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by warren_teg
everybody should use MIRC.com

for whole cds and movies yes, but not for small downloads

shortyz 08-26-2004 01:28 PM

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www.suprnova.org

welcome to the land of 400kb/s downloads.

B00M3R 08-26-2004 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDragon

Originally Posted by B00M3R
I use Shareaza. It's clean, simple and works great. It also controls all my bit torrent downloads too.

were you answering my questiong or just posting a reply to the topic?

both. dont know if it works on mac though.

baldur 08-26-2004 07:54 PM

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"When online thieves illegally distribute copyrighted programs and products, they put the livelihoods of millions of hard-working Americans at risk and damage our economy,”
Bwahahhahahahaha, such utter bullshit. "hard-working" movie and record company chairmen... yeah right.

R-MAK 08-26-2004 08:15 PM

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---- man, its just music. why do recodists say " i do it for the music ". besides, dont they have terrorists to worry about rather than people downloading music ::) RETARDS !

dragon 08-26-2004 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis
---- man, its just music. why do recodists say " i do it for the music ". besides, dont they have terrorists to worry about rather than people downloading music ::) RETARDS !

Thats a good ------- point. All this terriost warning and there going after americans hardcore just for trading music

dragon 08-26-2004 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis
---- man, its just music. why do recodists say " i do it for the music ". besides, dont they have terrorists to worry about rather than people downloading music ::) RETARDS !

Thats a good ------- point. All this terriost warning and there going after americans hardcore just for trading music

HondaTuner 08-26-2004 09:39 PM

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^ Double post :D

That is a really good point. Instead of worrying about the fat cats who are just ------- money hungry, why don't we go after the terrorists? Thats just like the local cops here who go after kids with modified cars, meanwhile we're one of the most heavily drug-infested areas in the United States. But kids with hooked up cars are more important to them, I suppose :-\

turborolla94 08-26-2004 09:43 PM

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yeah i just got ares lite yesterday. works good for me.

dragon 08-26-2004 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by turborolla94
yeah i just got ares lite yesterday. works good for me.

Whats the link? for some reason i can't find it on the web..

OMG how did i double post like that? I could have sworn i posted it once ???

turborolla94 08-26-2004 09:50 PM

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here ya go blackdragon,

www.aresgalaxy.org/download.html

steelcityhonda 08-26-2004 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
I have 14540 megs. Is that alot? ???

jesus, how many files do u have? I have 2.52 gb's and have like 800 files.

bmaca455 08-26-2004 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDragon

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Oh ----, that reminds me, I need to start WinMx up so I can finish downloading my porn. :)

EDIT: Nevermind, it was already running. ;)


is that any good Boost winmix? its it better than Limewire? I have a mac so im trying to find the best download site :P

I have yet to find anything better then limewire for the macs. The DL speeds don't seem to be quite as good but the selection is as good as anywhere else. I can't find anything better.

dragon 08-26-2004 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by turborolla94
here ya go blackdragon,

www.aresgalaxy.org/download.html

thanks for the link but it only works for xp :'(

bmaca455 thanks for the tip. But my limewire seem to ---- up from time to time though. I think i need to get dsl :-\

turborolla94 08-27-2004 05:24 AM

Re:Dept. of Justice Raids P2P User's Homes
 
just download ares lite it says it works for 98 and me. i have xp but i didnt want the whole downloading thing since i was only going to b downloadin songs.

Carnesd 08-27-2004 01:47 PM

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Damn, this thread goes from "Oh ---- the cops are gonna bust my ass" to "hey, where can I get WinMx?"

Pretty funny.

HondaCrx1991 08-27-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackDragon


yeah i cant download win mx how is Ares? is that compatiable with mac?


Ya, It'll work with mac>


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