TunerToys

Okay, so I did some reading, thanks to Thermal!

I figure the following are true....

- Although CO2 is cheaper to refill, it causes HP loss becuase as it sprays through the intercooler increasing HP, it get's sucked into the air filter, causing lost HP, with a net loss for the whole system.

- NO2 is more expensive, also cools the IC to increase HP, with the stray gasses getting sucked into the air filter and into the engine, further increasing HP, causing a big HP net gain for the system (50 HP increase on a 250 HP engine).

Interesting....

So even if you could keep the CO2 out of the combustion track, it would never perform as well as a poorly implemented N02 setup, because the stray NO2 also boosts HP.

So I guess it comes down to figuring out if the cheaper cost of CO2 is worth loosing those additional ponies gotten from NO2.

What's the difference in cost to refill the same bottle with th edifferent gasses?

Craig

87na_rx7

the cheapest ive found to get my tank filled was 4 bucks a pound in n20 i dont know about co2

car_boy_16

...then just use the kit that goes in the charge pipes, it doesn't actually get in your intake stream, it just cools it down. I dont think c02 is combustable either so never put that in your air stream as it will starve your engine of oxygen. Anyone care to confirm or deny this?

Reddy

co2 is alot cheaper but its nowhere as near as cold as nitrous. Nitrous burns its soo cold but as little kids you can huff co2 out of the little pellet gun cartridges.

car_boy_16

Nitrous may be super cold but you can even freeze-burn yourself with cO2, i've done it a lot.

Cray91

^^^wouldn't you leard after the first time??

That is just a bonus to running CO2, you can huff it b/n passes.

TunerToys

It is confirmed in the reading links Thermal put in a previous message.

And if the CO2/Sprayer Bar cause problems, the DEI intake cooling system looks perfect!

Check it out here - http://www.designengineering.com/pro...asp?m=sp&pid=4

We'll get our pricing on these later today, and hook you guys up with the best deal we can.

Craig

Sikocivic

OK, you guys have this all wrong. The CO2 never enters the fuel system or the motor in any way. It is just used to cool the fuel. The cooler you get the fuel the more dense it is and you get more of it in the motor. Its the same as using an intercooler to cool the air going into the motor to give you more air to make more HP.I do think this fuel cooler thing would work better on an all motor set up. The "bulb" thing that they make that goes in your air intake pipe will work on a turbo set up. The CO2 "super cools" its self and that cools the air going into the motor. Again, NO CO2 enters the motor. Remember,CO2 is what is in a fire extinguisher, I think that would be bad to run through your motor

thermal

Then the bulb also poses an imperfection in the charge pipe section because of the space it occupies.... not to mention the chances of condensation within the charged pipe or on the bulb itself... now the risk of having moisture in the charge pipe is available.... just my opinion tho...

I do have a cryo2 set-up on my Teg... but filled with nitrous instead. I got the kit for free. Plus the local law doesnt say anything about CO2 systems in the car. If I get pulled over and get inspected, the tank is marked with CO2 not N2O... I hope I dont get fucked

baldur

You have laws bitching about N2O on street cars?