Decisions, Go B or stay with the D
 

So i been lookin into doin the LS/VTEC swap, and from what people have been saying and stuff, getting all the ---- together and what not is going to be a be a bitch. Chris said it would be way easier to just buy a complete swap (i lack the cash). So what are your guys input about it. Piece together an LS/VTEC swap or just keep the D16Y8 and build it up? I was thinking about if I kept the D, getting a Z6 bottom end (since the oil pumps are way better) and building it and then eventually boosting again, AFTER the manual swap of course. BUT can I still use the same axles with teh different block and transmission? ughhhh i just wanna be SOMEWHAT fast :1

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Go H22 paul, wagners has the full swap for $900

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B B B. once you go B you will never go back, I've been there I started out D

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What is your projected HP goal? If all you would like is 200-250 WHP, just turbo the D.

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Man there are so many parts out there that if you put the same time and attention to detail in a D motor instead a B, you could have a pavement pounder. It all depends on you and your wallet. If you get a B motor then you will be doing the exact same thing you would do with the D. Its all your choice. Just stick wit hthe D and build it right.

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fully like trans, axles and everything?!? for $900??? call and see if they stuill ahve it

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B. Oh so much potential.

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thats what I was thinking...but there seems to be ALOT of ---- to round up

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Seems you make one of these posts on an annual basis.
GO B!
if u cant buy it at once buy it separate.
the most expensive item will be the tranny but you might get lucky

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hhaha only a few tiems, but everytime im like yeah, lets do it, someone is like, wait a sec, then i start thinkgnig and then im indecisive....ugh im gonna check on that h22 tho, 900 doesnt seem bad for a FULL swap

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That's what they told my buddy. But we're not allowed back there of course, haha

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Stick with the D. You can start by buying my pistons :P

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hahah i dont want high cr pistons, lol

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I've had them all, and yes B series engines take a better beating stock for stock, you could build up a D, but then you still have a D and a built B spanks your ass any day.

I say get a B series engine, they are beefier, stronger, make more power and can handle more power.

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gotta rep the d man, come on unless your going for 400+ i would stick to a D im just cool like that

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if you decide to stay D i'll have a bottom end after my build, i've got one right now but im going to swap that in place of the one i have in the car now and just swap parts over

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You don't want an H22 dude.Not only would you have to buy the swap for 900 bucks you would still have to sleeve it to run any kind of boost. The sleeves are frm not iron so you can't run forged pistons the forged pistons chew up the cylinder walls.

I dunno though, stock an h22 has what about 160-170 whp so running about .5 bar would probably get you up there hp wise .to much more will probably kill the stock pistons though.

I'm nobody around here. But if it were my descision.I would go B series. the market for B parts is huge I gues parts for a D are to but Ive noticed any site that sells car parts always has something for a b16 or 18.

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7-10 psi on a good tune would be fine in an H22 in my opinion, you dont absolutely have to sleeve it to run boost ::), there is a forged piston available that was made specificly for the FRM sleeves but i havent heard anyone with any experience with them so i cant comment on them

an H22 swapped into a hatch, weither it be an EG or an EF will be decently quick with minor modifications, i had one in an EG a while back and was surprised how fast it was with just a 6 puck and lightweight flywheel, i would have kept it if i had the money to put together a turbo kit for it, plus it got just a bit over 45MPG

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If money is tight, just build a D. It's still going to run you some money. If you had a monster D series, would you always wonder what it would have been if you went B? If so, than go B. For the price of a stock B vtec head and transmission I could probably build a D series bottom end. It's tempting, but I'd always wonder, so I'm going for it.

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I went B because I got a full swap for $300.

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I didn't say you absolutley have to sleeve an h22. I just said you have to to run high boost. anything over ten kills stock honda ringlands. And I did say running 7 psi would get him some decent hp.

But really it sounds like this guy wants to go B series but just isn't ready to make the descision.
Paul I by the way your posts sound even if you did boost a D you would still wonder about what it would be like with a B series. Just go ahead and do a B that way you can say youve done both.

I have an f22 myself so B or D doesn't much matter to me. But thinking about it seems like a B would be the easier way to go with more power in the end anyway.

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H22 FTW, I might do the H22 head swap on my f22a block,,,cant wait

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gosh you should tell it to the guys making 400+ on stock h22's ::)

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no kidding, and 10 doesnt automaticly kill honda ringlands ::) im running 12 daily on a Z6 and have hit upwards of 20 because of spikes, my motor is fine

tune, tune, tune, that's all there is too it, a good tune will rule all

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I say go D....that way if something breaks (which always seems to be the case), it's much easier to go to a junkyard and find a replacement.

Sure the possibilities of a B series are so much more...but your wallet would take a beating as well...so unless you want 300 whp+ i say go D

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I figured that I can do more to the D with the amount of $ I wanted to spend. If I went B I would have went over my budget, not accomplishing as much as I have with the D block.
My advice is: if the B is not a wise choice for you financially go D, UNLESS you stumble on a deal you cant pass up. (patience is key here)

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X2 :y

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How long do they last though. I'm not a hater. Hey if you can make that much power with an h22 then do it. cool.