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TiCaL 01-18-2007 04:54 PM

DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
ok so i got the one problem that everyone hates the most....bullshit camber issues on my 91 crx si!. i literlly will run through a brand new set of front tires in about 3 months daily driving with occasional racing but no burnouts! its only in the front though and the inside wears super quick but the outside is almost untouched :3 i got kyb shocks and cheap coilovers with about a 2-2.5 drop (not crazy slammed) what damn camber kit is good for a cheap price? are those cheap ass ebay ones worth it/any good??? i see other crx's slammed to the ground w/o this problem? is it just my car? i mean my crx is almost mint!! why this problem??? any suggestions.....

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...9235#msg849235

ichbinsobose 01-18-2007 04:56 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
could be worn bushings, tell us the readings from your current alignment job

TiCaL 01-18-2007 04:59 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
:-X :-X :-X havent got an alignment in a long time due to shops saying they cant align a damn lowered car which i think is bullshit!! i got a cheap ebay camber kit awhile back but i dont know how to work with the suspension aspects of the car....noob to that ---- so i havent put them on or even know if they'll work....

TiCaL 01-18-2007 05:01 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
identical to these cheapos!! do they work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95...76407143QQrdZ1

Zeniceguycrx 01-18-2007 05:02 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
your toe is out

your camber will wear your ires but not that bad with your drop. You have a problem with a bad part up front or you just need a alignment to fix the toe

Donald125 01-18-2007 05:09 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
forget about camber just take it to a shop that does aligment on lowered cars and have them set the tow

RENR 01-18-2007 05:45 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
W3RD. get teh cheap non adjustable camber kit so you dont confuse the techs at the align shop. i told them i put a camber kit it and they freaked out. i cam back and talk to another guy, didnt mention the kit and they aligned it. its similar to this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-97...79846801QQrdZ1

as soon as you mention camber kit they will want to charge you up the ass

Zeniceguycrx 01-18-2007 05:57 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
his problem isnt camber
that little camber offset is going to wear his tires very slow. the reason he is wearing tires so fast is because he is amplifying the friction put onto the tire edge because of the TOE. Once the toe is fixed he will be fine. I do alignments everyday.

TunerToys 01-18-2007 06:29 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
Check Toe teh OG way, run a string around it and see whats up.

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/a.../alignment.php

It's easy. Here are some pics from the link...

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/a...s/DSC01984.JPG


This shows toe-out. You'll want to adjust to zero toe for max tire wear.
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/a...s/DSC01986.JPG

Craig

TiCaL 01-18-2007 06:39 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
great info.....i just dont know ---- about alignments but i'll figure it out. i'm still trying to figure out how to put this cheap ass egay kit on. where exactly do they go??

N1ghtM0nkey 01-18-2007 07:37 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
Don't buy the cheap ass egay kit, I've been there and done that and they ------- suck.

I don't know if anybody else on here has bought one but the way they press onto your upper control arms is nothing like factory, and doesn't work. Period.

http://velocityshop.com/pics/brand/m...r-camber-1.jpg

See the little bronze thing? It's supposed to squeeze together and that's what the upper control arm is supposed to squeeze over. Even after modifying one with a dremel, it still didn't fit right. Even if/when you do get it to fit right, they won't stay adjusted right - mine didn't. I also had a lot of trouble with them placing the upper control arm way too far out and it hit the frame really bad.

http://www.autodynamic.com/detail.as..._ID=CC60-8891F

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SPC-F...QQcmdZViewItem

Those are what you should buy, one or the other. I suggest the top one.

However, your tire wear comes from improperly set toe. Your money would be better spent on taking it to a backyard mechanic or a shop that will align lowered cars and telling them to adjust the toe only.

CRXDrew 01-18-2007 08:03 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
oh ----.. thats the first time i've seen adjustable upper control arms specifically for the CRX... atleast for a decent price. All the ones ive seen in the past were for the eg or were mad JDM and $$$$.

Gonna buy those as soon as i get the cash.

W O T 01-18-2007 08:13 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
I wore my crx tires right out this season, almost to the belt on the inside actually but the outside still has an easy 50+%

Never got an alignment when I lowerred it or anything

Im gonna fab some traction bars this year. Would a camber kit work anything for me?

Zeniceguycrx 01-18-2007 08:18 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
if your alignment is good your tires will last pretty good
ps WOT You get alignment at my shop for 50

Racintweek 01-18-2007 09:53 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
who ever said his camber is fine with a 2-2.25" drop is ------- retarded.


on most (if not all hondas) a 1.25-1.75" drop is about the most you can do and stay within factory specs for camber. even then being as you are on the edge of what is considered normal you will wear tires faster. this guy is nearly twice that and you are blaming his problems on toe??


with my EF dropped 1.5" and still within spec i ran thru a set of yoko avs's in 8-9 months. even with my rears toed out a bit(for a reason) i couldnt see any thing related to the toe it was all camber, no feathering or spotted wear patterns



Zeniceguycrx 01-18-2007 09:56 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
if your camber is a a bit from the drop and your toes is good and u dont run 40psi in your tires you can get 2 seasons out of a decent set of tires no problem. The camber makes the friction on the edge of the tire a lot worse and thats what make your edge wear that fast

Racintweek 01-19-2007 06:51 AM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 

Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
his problem isnt camber
that little camber offset is going to wear his tires very slow.


Originally Posted by Zeniceguycrx
The camber makes the friction on the edge of the tire a lot worse and thats what make your edge wear that fast




pick one so i know how to argue against you ;)

Zeniceguycrx 01-19-2007 08:35 AM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
im not saying his camber is good, what Im saying with that drop the camber is the reason the tires are wearing "that" fast. the reason the tires are wearing in 3 mounth is because the TOE. If the toe was good his tires would wear but it would be very slow.


changing the toe will greatly slow the the edge wear

W O T 01-21-2007 09:07 AM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
Sounds like Im definetely bringing the Crx to you in a few months TJ

Gonna make my own set of traction bars to, can you still make the adjustments if those are installed?

Probably gonna need a camber kit of some kind to Id imagine with my drop

90dx 01-21-2007 01:37 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
If the alignement shop is scared of adjusting a camber kit then you should get far away from them as quick as possible.Spend a few bucks for a front adjustable kit I used a Ingalls one with good results and the rear can be done with washers.

turbohf 01-21-2007 03:02 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
my CRX only had camber wear when the toe was fucked up. even with like -2* camber it would wear pretty decently, untll it got some toe, then BAM cambered tired within 3months...

anyway i have seen lots of those camber kits and....have never put one on my car... i mean ----, look at them. it just looks like ---- and/or that they have the possibility of slipping and that would be fucked.

my suggestion:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...0/f7f0ce24.jpg

more info and install of kit on a CRX

i had those on my DB2/GSR and my EH2... i like them... for the rear on my GSR i used washers and longer bolts, on the EH2 i use some SPC upper control arms... but on my CRX i never bothered, i never had a problem. i always got my car alinged and never had issues... i have the above kits cuz they where free ;)

iceracercrx 01-21-2007 04:17 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 

Originally Posted by TunerToys
Check Toe teh OG way, run a string around it and see whats up.

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/a.../alignment.php

It's easy. Here are some pics from the link...

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/a...s/DSC01984.JPG


This shows toe-out. You'll want to adjust to zero toe for max tire wear.
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/a...s/DSC01986.JPG

Craig

Do NOT do this at all. The way to do it is use jack stands to form the box. And then use the wheel out lip for a measurment. This way that they are showing is a bunch of crap.

Randy

TunerToys 01-21-2007 04:44 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 

Originally Posted by iceracercrx
Do NOT do this at all. The way to do it is use jack stands to form the box. And then use the wheel out lip for a measurment. This way that they are showing is a bunch of crap.

Randy

Any chance you can give us something a but more concrete and technical in your argument against this method? Not that your statement of "This way that they are showing is a bunch of crap." doesn't cover it, I'd just like to know your reasons why.

Craig

Zeniceguycrx 01-21-2007 10:01 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
the best way is to put the heads on and get a reading.

what u cant see in TT pic is that the string will be on the rear rim/rubber(showing 0 toe) therefor you can look at the front. your tires are in a squar not a rombus or some ---- like that.

front tires * *
rear * *

not like that

Racintweek 01-21-2007 10:08 PM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 
that ---- is strung around the bumpers, who knows how straight they are :-\


you can use anything to form the box really, just make sure the box is square(measure diagonally from corner to corner) and you'll be fine, the string doesnt even need to touch the tires/rims just be close enough to get an accurate measurement. you measure the gap between the front of the rim and the string and the rear of the rim and the string.

gen4acclude 01-22-2007 12:08 AM

Re: DAMN CRX CAMBER PROBLEMS!!!
 

Originally Posted by Racintweek
that ---- is strung around the bumpers, who knows how straight they are :-\


you can use anything to form the box really, just make sure the box is square(measure diagonally from corner to corner) and you'll be fine, the string doesnt even need to touch the tires/rims just be close enough to get an accurate measurement. you measure the gap between the front of the rim and the string and the rear of the rim and the string.

tru tru i did this at the track to correct the toe on the passenger side once and i was able to finish the event later at the shop on the alignment machine it was out -.9* from spec so it does work to some acuracy


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