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Old 01-10-2004, 01:48 PM
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Raffi, your point is irrellivent in the fact that we could hire some guys to work from a third world country to come here and work for $4 a day. That's not the point. I know what your saying, but what I'm saying is the amount of cheap labor we are getting out of these people doesn't come close to the extra tax dollars it costs us to take care of them. 4.6 BILLION a year. Tell me that's worth saving a couple dollars on an hourly wage, when your company is forking it out in another area. You have to associate the two, otherwise people start making points like yours. lol.

The youth in America isn't perfect, but the kids that still need jobs to make it in thier own country get labelled as "lazy *****" because you have them working next to "third world citizens" that think $6/hour is a fucken gold mine. That would be like making you work next to a slave laborer in indonesia and calling you a lazy ---- because you won't work as hard as them for $0.30 a day. Oh, we'll hold this contest in YOUR HOME COUNTRY as well.

And while your at it, keep putting quotations anytime you see me use the words them,us,you,they, and whoever else you can think of to make me look like "A typical racist white guy."

If you really want to get any points in this argument, go to my first point and start proving any of those points wrong. (What part of "you cannot win this argument" didn't you understand)
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Ok, that was some serious ownage Stealthy. Good ------ job sir!
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[quote=Whitey

I'm not mexican but, being in the US army for 6 years the mexican soldiers are some of the best we have, they are dedicated to what they do, I can see why bush would do things to help them, I think most immigrants do a better job for America than most Americans, who aggree?


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These mexicans are ruining America. Reading PA (where I go to school) has now become 60% mexican and suprise suprise its now the 25th most dangerous city in the US. The city isn't that big and its more dangerous that any part of Phily.
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well sice we jabajawd on the phone and got most of our politacal views squared away ill post this so that dumb asses like CAP dont think you owned me...

My point is this.As americans we alow this to happen.Big companies love money but your right they dont see the other end of the picture.the part where it is costing us alot of money to suport peple that havent earned the right to live in this great country.I get taxed up the *** at the end of the year.Why?So I pay for all the free ---- they get.But my point is that its not just them.Its all lazy ***** who decide to abuse the system.No one is going to turn down something thats free.I wouldnt.Black people,white people and mexicans,all who are lazy and dont want to work are the problem.We have to look at certain parts of the country where mexicans arent allowed like Tenesee and Arkansas where there are a lot of people below poverty level that could work but wont.Why?I dont know.Its a nation wide problem and its costing me money.


The youth of america...well the ones I generalized as lazy ***** are working side by side with other hard working white Americans who produce,and give a hard worked 8 hour day.In my Union there are no illigals.There is no way for them to get in.So like I said the people I use to measure these "lazy *****" is with other hard working "white" individuals.

The quotation thing was couse everyone refers to illigals as "them" as if they are a different breed of humans when its just a different culture and a way of life all together.

I respect your point of view Steveee....
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Just for everyone else, me and Raffi talk on the phone quite a bit, and we just got done talking about this. But just in case you were wondering Cap, I did own him. (I always have)LOL haha Raffo.
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I got news for you dumb ***** wanting to talk about how bad immigrants are for the U.S.: YOU ALL ARE IMMIGRANTS!!! In case you did not pay attention in high school: none of your ancestors "came" from America, none of your ancestors is an "original American", all of your ancestors came from all parts of Europe, from Asia, from anywhere in this world, seeking to escape political, racial and religious and cultural oppression! And by the way: WHO made this country what is is today? Was Einstein American? Don't think so!
Who's giving their life in Irak for this country, what is stands for - and for guys like you, every day? The Army is not white, it's a "melting pot", there are Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Puertoricans, Jamaicans, Cubans, Haitians, Asians, European... You wanna talk about who's doing good for the U.S.? Get the facts straight first!!!
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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I got news for you dumb ***** wanting to talk about how bad immigrants are for the U.S.: YOU ALL ARE IMMIGRANTS!!! In case you did not pay attention in high school: none of your ancestors "came" from America, none of your ancestors is an "original American", all of your ancestors came from all parts of Europe, from Asia, from anywhere in this world, seeking to escape political, racial and religious and cultural oppression! And by the way: WHO made this country what is is today? Was Einstein American? Don't think so!
Who's giving their life in Irak for this country, what is stands for - and for guys like you, every day? The Army is not white, it's a "melting pot", there are Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Puertoricans, Jamaicans, Cubans, Haitians, Asians, European... You wanna talk about who's doing good for the U.S.? Get the facts straight first!!!
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Hey you dip ----(rude boys wife ) before you talk your "your not from america" crap learn geography.I am a mexican and even though the spaniards came over and raped the aztec and mayan women to create our breed of mexicans technacillay I am originaly from america.You see there are these 2 continants called North and South America.My ansesters originated in the North American continent in wich Mexico is a part of so technacilaay I am an American from Mesoamerican decent.....you want the DNA test?

disregard this if you werent talking to me :P
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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I got news for you dumb ***** wanting to talk about how bad immigrants are for the U.S.: YOU ALL ARE IMMIGRANTS!!! In case you did not pay attention in high school: none of your ancestors "came" from America, none of your ancestors is an "original American", all of your ancestors came from all parts of Europe, from Asia, from anywhere in this world, seeking to escape political, racial and religious and cultural oppression! And by the way: WHO made this country what is is today? Was Einstein American? Don't think so!
Who's giving their life in Irak for this country, what is stands for - and for guys like you, every day? The Army is not white, it's a "melting pot", there are Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Puertoricans, Jamaicans, Cubans, Haitians, Asians, European... You wanna talk about who's doing good for the U.S.? Get the facts straight first!!!
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What the ---- is up with you guys letting your wives get on your names lately? First off you spell iraq wrong, secondly you are missing the point and are setting the arguement back we all realize we our imigrants read onyx and steathmodes posts they have the facts.

all of your ancestors came from all parts of Europe, from Asia, from anywhere in this world, seeking to escape political, racial and religious and cultural oppression!
Wrong half my ancestors are native americans and in case you didnt pay attention in high school they didnt come for any of those reasons they were nomadic tribes that moved where the food was and settled in different parts of north america
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douche my friend you are verry correct
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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I got news for you dumb ***** wanting to talk about how bad immigrants are for the U.S.: YOU ALL ARE IMMIGRANTS!!! In case you did not pay attention in high school: none of your ancestors "came" from America, none of your ancestors is an "original American", all of your ancestors came from all parts of Europe, from Asia, from anywhere in this world, seeking to escape political, racial and religious and cultural oppression! And by the way: WHO made this country what is is today? Was Einstein American? Don't think so!
Who's giving their life in Irak for this country, what is stands for - and for guys like you, every day? The Army is not white, it's a "melting pot", there are Whites, Blacks, Mexicans, Puertoricans, Jamaicans, Cubans, Haitians, Asians, European... You wanna talk about who's doing good for the U.S.? Get the facts straight first!!!
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Hey you dip ----(rude boys wife ) before you talk your "your not from america" crap learn geography.I am a mexican and even though the spaniards came over and raped the aztec and mayan women to create our breed of mexicans technacillay I am originaly from america.You see there are these 2 continants called North and South America.My ansesters originated in the North American continent in wich Mexico is a part of so technacilaay I am an American from Mesoamerican decent.....you want the DNA test?

disregard this if you werent talking to me :P
I guess you are the dip ---- here! No, I was not talking to you, as a matter of fact I was trying to take your side, but I guess you can't read! Also, it's not about Mexicans immigrating to North America, this whole argument is about Mexicans immigrating to the U.S. Got the difference?! and also other immigrant come to the united states to live a better live, work harder than all AMERICANS and get no respect or support from America, when americans are collecting welfare, immigrants are sweeping your streets for nothing, immigrants dont get ----. but obviously I hope this subject just about illegals. I'm German my Husband is Jamaican, because of our education we get a lot of good jobs but the country whites hate us for tha, my husband just got his American citezenship, and he was told by a confederate flying hillbilly he did not deserves it because we are comming to his country and taking his people jobs.
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