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J-SMITH69 01-06-2009 04:14 PM

The Brady Center rates states based on how safe they are according to their gun
 
"The Brady Center rates states based on how safe they are according to their gun laws. North Dakota received an F."

"North Dakota just announed that it had ZERO (0) gun murders in the entire state for 2008."

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/20..._grades_ge.php

http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2009/01/making-grade.html

Grading system:

http://www.stategunlaws.org/viewstate.php?st=ND

HMTdmc 01-06-2009 04:19 PM

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Liberal Faggots make me wanna buts there mouths with the blunt side of my pistol. Johnny did you watch 24 the other night? man it was great it was two hours of jack shooting Africans. It was like therapy for me.

J-SMITH69 01-06-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmc1
Liberal Faggots make me wanna buts there mouths with the blunt side of my pistol. Johnny did you watch 24 the other night? man it was great it was two hours of jack shooting Africans. It was like therapy for me.

i didn't see it.

i don't think i've ever watched 24 and i don't have cable anyways

sounds like a good program though :P

Jorsher 01-06-2009 04:41 PM

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lulz

Well, if gun control was tighter, North Dakota would have had 10 more lives created due to mass fornication.

t_cel_t 01-06-2009 05:59 PM

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i dont cant understand why liberals want to deny the facts, just pisses me off.

heyseemoreh22 01-06-2009 06:03 PM

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Dennis since you started working in that CARD factory, your obamaism has went way out the roof pal. You know your ------ co-workers are your idols

monster D 01-06-2009 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
i didn't see it.

i don't think i've ever watched 24 and i don't have cable anyways

sounds like a good program though :P

so wat you got sat?? i couldnt live without cable or something close to it

MikeJ-2009 01-06-2009 06:07 PM

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Most of the time I can see misguided people with a good intention, even if I don't believe in their organization. For this one, I'd like to infiltrate the place, become the President, and shoot everyone at an annual meeting. Fucken idiots.

Perfek360 01-06-2009 07:04 PM

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so north dakota has practicly no restriction on guns and ----, only had two murders which were stabbings and yet they get an F? hmmmmm....i think they need to remove head from sphyncter then grade....i think north dakota is on to something...i like the shoot first law, someone threatens your life you have the right to blast them....makes people think twice bout killing other people, it explains only two homicides :y

catch.can 01-06-2009 07:48 PM

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Although i do agree this is all bullshit, and all americans should have the rite to bear arms no matter if its a hand-gun or so dubbed "assault rifle" ....
Bitching about it on HMT isn't going to do ----. Call them and ask about ND and see what they say... Call their Bluff, and their bullshit. Let your thoughts be known.
P.S. Record your call through your computer. lol

Brady Campaign Phone: (202) 898-0792
Brady Campaign Fax: (202) 371-9615

Brady Center Phone: (202) 289-7319
Brady Center Fax: (202) 408-1851

Darkelvis 01-06-2009 08:31 PM

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we like our guns here in nd. :)

The murder rate in the state has nothing to do with the gun laws though. It's the fact that the state is only 600,000 people of which 98% are middle and upper class white republicans, and most of the state is farmland. People around here don't kill people, they just hunt, farm, and in the winter stay inside.

signorelli21 01-06-2009 08:40 PM

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---- the brady center, theres no point trying to reason with them anyway, i just read a report on their website linking assault weapons to terrorism and why they should reinstate the ban, basically they say that even though the 911 guys all used boxcutters that doesn;t mean anything because they would rather of had uzi's :S

its just anouther was for a group of people to use fear in order to control the rest of us.

Missouri has the same score by the way ;D

CXyD 01-06-2009 10:16 PM

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Wyoming had 11pts. but then again we in Wyo. can care less about stupid Brady campaign crap. ;D
Wyoming still rank as the state with lowest population in the union. ;D
Some of the best hunting and fishing in the country. Since the economy is going in the toilet that means all the idiots who moved up here trying to Kalifornize my state are moving the ---- out. >:D

miss-piggy 01-06-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkelvis
we like our guns here in nd. :)

The murder rate in the state has nothing to do with the gun laws though. It's the fact that the state is only 600,000 people of which 98% are middle and upper class white republicans, and most of the state is farmland. People around here don't kill people, they just hunt, farm, and in the winter stay inside.

Most reasonable thing said in the whole thread.

What's more fun is actually trying to guess what state has what ranking.

45psi 01-07-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
i didn't see it.

i don't think i've ever watched 24 and i don't have cable anyways

sounds like a good program though :P

Johnny, its on fox. tune it in.

signorelli21 01-07-2009 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bigwig
Most reasonable thing said in the whole thread.

What's more fun is actually trying to guess what state has what ranking.

yea because its SOoooo hard to find :1

http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/...d_rankings.pdf

Chris Harris 01-07-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkelvis
we like our guns here in nd. :)

The murder rate in the state has nothing to do with the gun laws though. It's the fact that the state is only 600,000 people of which 98% are middle and upper class white republicans, and most of the state is farmland. People around here don't kill people, they just hunt, farm, and in the winter stay inside.

I like hearing an opinion from a member of the actual state.

I guess it would help Johnny, if you actually understood what they were rating...they arent rating deaths in the state by guns, they are rating the laws of the state as they pertain to gun restrictions.


J-SMITH69 01-07-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xenocron
I like hearing an opinion from a member of the actual state.

I guess it would help Johnny, if you actually understood what they were rating...they arent rating deaths in the state by guns, they are rating the laws of the state as they pertain to gun restrictions.


it says what they are rating in the OP

they rate the "safeness" of a state by their gun laws.

CXyD 01-07-2009 02:19 PM

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Wow and they rate Kalifornia number one with 79 pts. but more people get killed by cops than any other state.
Look at https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...92.0;topicseen with the cop shotting a guy in the back while he still laying on his stomach.
Yeah that Brady center is a crock of ----.

Chris Harris 01-07-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
it says what they are rating in the OP

they rate the "safeness" of a state by their gun laws.

I just read the whole press release, and no where does it state that...you stated that.


NEW BRADY SCORECARD SHOWS
MOST STATES LACK
COMMON SENSE GUN RESTRICTIONS
Washington, D.C. – Officials in most states have done little to keep criminals and other dangerous people from easily obtaining guns, according to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. The new redesigned scorecards are being released today for all 50 states.
Two-thirds of all states score less than 20 points out of 100. Almost half of all states score 10 points or less out of 100.
“We make it too easy for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons. Our gun laws are so weak that, in most states, there are few or no laws to prevent gun violence," says Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “This is true at the federal level as well. We need effective gun laws to curb gun violence and illegal gun trafficking.”
The Brady Scorecards are designed so that states can score up to 100 points across five major categories of laws: Curbing Firearm Trafficking; Strengthening Brady Background Checks; Child Safety; Banning Military-style Assault Weapons; and making it harder to carry Guns In Public Places. The national state-by-state scores are available in complete category-by-category detail at www.bradycampaign.org.
The rankings show that most states don’t have laws to effectively combat gun trafficking. States like Arizona, Kentucky, Missouri, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Utah have no laws on the books to effectively combat firearm trafficking or to prevent dangerous people from gaining easy access to guns.
The state with the strongest gun laws is California with 79 points, followed by New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Maryland.
California took a bold new step last year by enacting the groundbreaking Crime Gun Identification Act of 2007, to require new semi-automatic handguns to be fitted with “microstamping” technology to help law enforcement identify crime guns and apprehend armed criminals. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed the legislation last session. Both New Jersey and Connecticut also enacted laws last session that curb firearm trafficking.
“While advocates and officials deserve credit for strong gun laws in states like California, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New York, even more needs to be done in these, and all, states to ensure that dangerous people don’t have easy access to guns,” said Helmke.
The Brady Campaign scorecards provide a new and redesigned analysis of whether states are enacting the laws needed to protect citizens from gun violence. The new scorecards also show states how their gun laws can be strengthened and their scores improved.
The categories covered by the 2007 scorecards are as follows:

States can earn up to 35 points by taking all measures needed to “Curb Firearm Trafficking.” States can fully regulate the gun dealers within their borders, limit bulk purchases of handguns, provide police certain technology to identify crime guns, and require lost or stolen guns to be reported to the police.

States can earn up to 25 points by “Strengthening Brady Background Checks.” This involves requiring background checks on all gun sales and requiring a permit in order to purchase firearms. Short of universal background checks, states can also close the gun show loophole, at least requiring background checks for all gun show sales.

States can earn up to 20 points by “Protecting Child Safety” when it comes to guns. States can require that only childproof handguns be sold within their borders, require child safety locks to be sold with each handgun, hold adults accountable for keeping guns away from kids and teens, and require handgun purchasers to be at least 21 years of age.

States can earn up to 10 points by “Banning Military-style Assault Weapons,” as well as banning high-capacity ammunition magazines.

States can earn up to 10 points by making it harder to carry “Guns In Public Places” (except for trained law enforcement and security) and by allowing localities to “Preserve Local Control” over municipal gun laws. This includes keeping guns out of workplaces and college campuses, not forcing law enforcement to issue concealed handgun permits on demand, not permitting “shoot first” expansions in self-defense laws, and not preventing municipalities from passing their own gun laws.
We acknowledge the research of Legal Community Against Violence on state gun laws. Their publication, “Regulating Guns in America,” and website served as a basis for our analysis. For more information about Legal Community Against Violence, see www.lcav.org.
As the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence, the Brady Campaign, with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters, works to enact and enforce sensible gun laws, regulations and public policies. The Brady Campaign is devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities.
For continuing insight and comment on the gun issue, read Paul Helmke's blog at www.bradycampaign.org/blog/. Visit the Brady Campaign website at www.bradycampaign.org.
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http://www.stategunlaws.org/xshare/p...al_release.pdf

E-b0la 01-07-2009 03:10 PM

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The whole thing is bullshit. It's just designed to make states that have less gun laws look bad, even though they don't need bullshit gun laws to make them any safer. Do these people think gun laws have anything to do with murder rates and safeness of a state?




Tom-Guy 01-07-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by E-b0la
The whole thing is bullshit. It's just designed to make states that have less gun laws look bad, even though they don't need bullshit gun laws to make them any safer. Do these people think gun laws have anything to do with murder rates and safeness of a state?

+1


Reddy 01-07-2009 07:10 PM

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Gun Deaths and Injury - The United States Leads the World in Firearm Violence


In 2005, 30,694 people in the United States died from firearm-related deaths – 12,352 were murdered; 17,002 killed themselves; 789 were accidents; 330 died by police intervention, and in 221, the intent was unknown. 6 In comparison, 33,651 Americans were killed in the Korean War and 58,193 Americans were killed in the Vietnam War.7


An additional 71,417 people were shot and survived their injuries -- 52,748 people injured in an attack; 3,190 people injured in a suicide attempt; 14,678 people shot accidentally, and 801 people shot in a police intervention.8


In 2004, firearms were used to murder 56 people in Australia, 184 people in Canada, 73 people in England and Wales, 5 people in New Zealand, and 37 people in Sweden.9 In comparison, firearms were used to murder 11,344 in the United States.10


In 2006, there were only 154 justifiable homicides by private citizens using handguns in the United States.11

I'd like to see the statistics for how many Canadians own guns/guns per household.


http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/...ricanamerican/

^^ This is the reason guns get a bad name but if we keep loose gun laws the problem would just fix itself over time.

J-SMITH69 01-07-2009 07:16 PM

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(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are
120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.



(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is ..000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI

Chris Harris 01-07-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are
120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.



(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is ..000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI

Ahh...you just hit my sweet spot buddy. Will you be my friend again?

...I can jump all over the Deathcare/Sickcare system with you on this one :)

J-SMITH69 01-07-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xenocron
Ahh...you just hit my sweet spot buddy. Will you be my friend again?

...I can jump all over the Deathcare/Sickcare system with you on this one :)

im not blaming the doctors, most of them are probably really accidents and thats it. medicine is risky. so is freedom...

but we can see that firearms are far less dangerous than doctors.

miss-piggy 01-07-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by signorelli21
yea because its SOoooo hard to find :1

http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/...d_rankings.pdf

Dumb dumb, I mean say, "Hey I bet those liberal faggots in Mass are #3" and then look and see what their ranking actually is. Get it? Hard concept, I know....

TorganFM 01-07-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
im not blaming the doctors, most of them are probably really accidents and thats it. medicine is risky. so is freedom...

but we can see that firearms are far less dangerous than doctors.

Does "Accidental deaths caused by Physicians" mean from neglect or just deaths while under the care of a physician? Really what you should say is firearms are far less dangerous than getting sick, injured, whatever.

stealthiskey 01-08-2009 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
im not blaming the doctors, most of them are probably really accidents and thats it. medicine is risky. so is freedom...

but we can see that firearms are far less dangerous than doctors.

That statistic ACTUALLY says that there is a higher ratio of gun owners to total population, than there are doctors to total population. It says nothing about danger.

Also I don't think murder or violent intent falls under the "accidental gun death" criteria.

"97% of all statistics are false, including this one."

Nothing wrong with guns, but why you gotta back it up with bull ---- statistics?

The North Dakota thing was actually pretty decent.



Tom-Guy 01-08-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
im not blaming the doctors, most of them are probably really accidents and thats it. medicine is risky. so is freedom...

I blame doctors. Every time I go to one I name off two families of anti-biotics that I am allergic to, and sure enough the fuckstick prescribes exactly that. You question them and they get all up in arms that you questioned them, when they don't dismiss what you've said out of hand. Uh, yeah, hives all over the body, low blood pressure (pass out if you stand up too quickly), and erratic heartbeat are really hard not to notice, I know wtf I'm talking about. ::)

Hitchhikkr 01-08-2009 12:24 AM

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Doctors are cheap bastards. They buy porsches' but dont want to spend the money to maintain them. :1

signorelli21 01-08-2009 04:17 AM

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I thought this was funny: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4269818.ece

Knife crime has overtaken terrorism as the No 1 priority for the Metropolitan Police, one of Britain’s most senior officers said yesterday.

Deputy Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson announced the form-ation of a special knife-crime unit to address the recent spate of fatal stabbings in London as he admitted that moves to stop teenagers carrying weapons were not working.



I guess europe doesn't have a gun problem ;D

Toysrme 01-09-2009 03:27 AM

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I think its funny that the brady site linked Alabam to here
http://www.millionmommarch.org/chapt...s.php?state=AL
Yet the first thing it says is:

Alabama Chapters
There are currently no active chapters in Alabama.
Fail!





This site lists the only alabama "high profile shooting" as 3 cops killed issuing a search warrant. I remember that bullshit like yesterday. Some ------- druggie ------ thug at a known crack house had warrants and a history, but PRIOR to the warrants having been issued the one of the cops that gaked had been harassing the ------ for weeks. He comes banging on the door and the ------'s buddy says BLOOOOOOOOOOOMB shot in the face bitch.

Chris Harris 01-09-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
im not blaming the doctors, most of them are probably really accidents and thats it. medicine is risky. so is freedom...

but we can see that firearms are far less dangerous than doctors.

The only statistics about doctors and death are based on malpractice records (not accidents)...the freaky part is that while the stats are staggering relating to this, this about how many Mal Practice incidents are settled and go un-reported in the stats.


Dictionary: malpractice (măl-prăk'tĭs)

- Improper or negligent treatment of a patient, as by a physician, resulting in injury, damage, or loss.
- Improper or unethical conduct by the holder of a professional or official position.
- The act or an instance of improper practice.
An accident is one thing, malpractice is another.

Now...how does this relate to the constitution and our rights though? Isn't it the gov'ts responsibility to protect us from negligence of doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, drug companies? Or should they just be allowed to do what they want, without any oversight or recourse for their actions? This is one of the reasons the sick(health)care system in the US costs more than any other country in the world...unfortunately, there are many more.

raiden571 01-09-2009 02:04 PM

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people are dumb, they dont even understand why we have the right to own guns. when our country goes south and the gov. starts there typical ----, all the douchebags that were crying about guns being bad will be the first to get mowed down


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