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jimboburgess 01-10-2007 04:51 PM

bet with my friend
 
so before he left to go back to school my friend bet me $40 if i could beat him in a 1/4 drag race (legally at a track) by the time he got back in the summer.
he has a 2004 mach 1 mustang, his fastest time was 13.8. I know i am at least as good of a driver in the 1/4 as he is. I was able to pull off 15.4 seconds in my b18b1 swapped hatch.
Right now my set up is;
B18b1
LS trans(one thing i think i need to change ot be faster)
14b turbo(with a t3 ready planning on 10 psi and waiting to be put in)
with the new turbo i am hoping to break 200 whp
450 cc injectors
stage 1 clutch and pressure plate
i plan on getting new tires before then.
before i tuned it i couldn't get it to go lower than 16 due to bad 60' times (i think cause of tires) and a shady trans (anyone got an extra b16 trans?).

any suggestions on building my car to run 13s?

dpostwhore 01-10-2007 04:59 PM

Re: bet with my friend
 
nitrous and strip the car

jimboburgess 01-10-2007 05:04 PM

Re: bet with my friend
 
i am going to stick with a turbo and slicks, i only need to make a 13 second car. nitrous is a seperate factor i don't want to worry about tuning my already boosted engine for N2o also.

Oscar 01-10-2007 05:07 PM

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strip the ---- out of your car and turn up the boost.

fork 01-10-2007 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
strip the ---- out of your car and turn up the boost.

yeah and get slicks and gut the car and hope he hasn't changed anything on his car becuase you are still probably out if luck

jimboburgess 01-10-2007 06:12 PM

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no doubt, i think the t3 i have will be good with 10 psi of boost
i have seen similar builds that make up to 250 hp

beerbongskickass 01-10-2007 06:20 PM

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Slicks or drag radials and just crank the boost up, you should have an easy 12 seecond car.

ososlohatch 01-10-2007 07:43 PM

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12psi in tires ;)

Zeniceguycrx 01-10-2007 07:45 PM

Re: bet with my friend
 
Iv ran a 15.9 in a stock ex coup so that 15.4 doesnt seem that fast

IndianRide 01-10-2007 08:23 PM

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15.4 in a boosted ls swapped hatch? get some drag radials or slicks, and get that thing running right. Is your clutch slipping?
what was your 60ft and mph?

QikEnuF 01-10-2007 08:51 PM

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find a boost controller, turn it to the nignog setting, and strip the car like it was your friends hot sister.

J-SMITH69 01-10-2007 08:58 PM

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he said he ran 15.4 with the just swap ::)

you need slicks and you might be able to run in the 13s with your setup
you'll have to launch the ---- out of it

scottsi 01-10-2007 09:02 PM

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put a real turbo on it, or two t3's

beerbongskickass 01-10-2007 09:03 PM

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Dude don't strip your car, it will be a waste of time. You should easily be able to beat your friend by a full second or more with slicks. Crank the boost up to about 15-20psi and tune your car well.

Dr.Boost 01-10-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
Dude don't strip your car, it will be a waste of time. You should easily be able to beat your friend by a full second or more with slicks. Crank the boost up to about 15-20psi and tune your car well.

Seriously, how much weight are you going to lose? :1 Probably the difference between eating a supersized meal or a regular in your stomach. I bet if you took a piss/---- before racing you would lose more weight than stripping your interior and looking like a fag. :3 If that setup can't break into the 13's......it's time to hang up your hat. :3
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gen4acclude 01-10-2007 09:10 PM

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15.8 holy ---- i did a 14.7 in a na accord with drag slicks, dude practice ur launches the first 60 are to important, and im sure some will call bs but ---- them i worked for the drag strip in woodburn or. and also worked for jim taylor who is well known in the gasser class on the west coast he ran 6.4 the last time i watched him

RedCavz 01-10-2007 09:13 PM

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that mach should be pulling 13.30-13.40's all day. You better hope he didn't get any better at driving

Dr.Boost 01-10-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
that mach should be pulling 13.30-13.40's all day. You better hope he didn't get any better at driving

My boss had one of those and it didn't seem that fast. The butt dyno said it was torquey, but still not that fast. :l
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J-SMITH69 01-10-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
My boss had one of those and it didn't seem that fast. The butt dyno said it was torquey, but still not that fast. :l

they're pretty fast... mid 13s for sure. just a tad slower than the ls1 camaros/firebirds

Dr.Boost 01-10-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
they're pretty fast... mid 13s for sure. just a tad slower than the ls1 camaros/firebirds

Well, his was an auto so maybe that was mhy it felt slow? :-\ His wife can't drive manual and it was her car. :3
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J-SMITH69 01-10-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Well, his was an auto so maybe that was mhy it felt slow? :-\ His wife can't drive manual and it was her car. :3

probably true. doesnt feel that fast when you only go through 3 gears, when you're slamin gears you'lre like holy ---- im haulin'

dpostwhore 01-10-2007 09:27 PM

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lol? nitrous, turbo, engine swap,and gutting all for a $40 bet??

this guy is totally ------- poor or is a O0 or :8


scottsi 01-10-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
Dude don't strip your car, it will be a waste of time. You should easily be able to beat your friend by a full second or more with slicks. Crank the boost up to about 15-20psi and tune your car well.

not everyone can launch like you :P

beerbongskickass 01-11-2007 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
not everyone can launch like you :P

Sure they can, unless they disabled there rev limiter. ;) Learn how to preload, so you don't break ----, then give her hell...

N1ghtM0nkey 01-11-2007 02:57 AM

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We need some clarification. Is 15.4 the time with or without the turbo? You said you ran 15.4 with the LS swap in your hatch then turned around and said your current setup is (insert turbo setup here).

If you ran 15.4 with the turbo, give up. If you ran that N/A then you've got a chance. I think 15.4 is a good time for a LS swapped hatch. My N/A B16 ran about a second faster than that but it's in a HF CRX too.

88dx 01-11-2007 03:17 AM

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If u cant beat a stock mustang with a Boosted LS please sell it and buy a worthless GM product :l

gen4acclude 01-11-2007 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
If u cant beat a stock mustang with a Boosted LS please sell it and buy a worthless GM product :l

exactly ---- like i posted my 14.7 na accord on slicks

jimboburgess 01-11-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
We need some clarification. Is 15.4 the time with or without the turbo?

that time was in a NA, LS swapped, Eg hatch.

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
You said you ran 15.4 with the LS swap in your hatch then turned around and said your current setup is (insert turbo setup here).

I crashed that old car i should've said. Now i have the del sol
t3 turbo, ls engine, shady gear box with bad syncros.

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
If you ran 15.4 with the turbo, give up. If you ran that N/A then you've got a chance. I think 15.4 is a good time for a LS swapped hatch. My N/A B16 ran about a second faster than that but it's in a HF CRX too.

stock 2004 Mach 1's should do 13.1 with a good driver, it weighs 3500lbs and has 350 or so whp.

J-SMITH69 01-11-2007 06:22 PM

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lol show us the dyno that shows a stock mach 1 having 350whp....

more like 250-270whp and 300rwt

http://www.mach1registry.com/databas.../Mach_dyno.jpg

jimboburgess 01-11-2007 06:50 PM

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yep that's a stock mustang i am having my friend send me a dyno chart for his mach 1

Tough-guy 01-11-2007 06:51 PM

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So... wait, you're gonna spend like a GRAND to shave a SECOND off your time to beat your friend to win $40.00. I'm not a financial expert but that just sounds plain stupid. :l :S:1 ::)

ghettoturbo 01-11-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tough-guy
So... wait, your gtanna spend like a GRAND to shave a SECOND off your time to beat your friend to win $40.00. I'm not a financial expert but that just sounds plain stupid. :l :S:1 ::)

im sure thats not the only reason...hell i turbo my cars without even the possibility of there being 40 bucks in it for me

J-SMITH69 01-11-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimboburgess
yep that's a stock mustang i am having my friend send me a dyno chart for his mach 1

if his is stock it doesnt make 350whp.

Dr.Boost 01-11-2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettoturbo
im sure thats not the only reason...hell i turbo my cars without even the possibility of there being 40 bucks in it for me

I've turboed plenty of cars knowing damn well that I'm going to lose hundreds, if not thousands. :l
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jimboburgess 01-11-2007 09:39 PM

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yeh, the plan is to build a fast car. How many people here are looking to build their car because they want to win a bet, i want a faster car.
I am at 163 making 2-3 psi with the turbo i have now (14b with a relocated wastegate that i think is causing my low boost problem) i already have plans to buidl the car.
My friend thinks his car is going to be faster, if i get mine faster he'll give me $40 and i have a faster car than his $28,000 2004 mach one (that he spent over $1000 on just a new exhaust, and tuning) I want my $6000 del sol to kick his V8 ass, it's mostly for pride, bragging rights, to show a couple of ford guys why i swear by hondas.

Dr.Boost 01-11-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimboburgess
to show a couple of ford guys why i swear by hondas. turbos.

That sounds better.
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jimboburgess 01-11-2007 09:43 PM

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true that, i keep trying to talk him into a turbo setup yet he wants to go with a centrifugal supercharger i gues sthat's not that different belt driven compared to exhaust so eh. . .

N1ghtM0nkey 01-12-2007 12:58 AM

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15.4 really isn't bad for a N/A LS in a EG hatch. You should be able to beat him with a solid turbo setup on a stock LS.


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