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CivicRacerX7 06-26-2005 09:46 PM

B16A2 should I go for it
 
I was plannin on doing a monster H22a in my 98 hatchie

but my buddy has a B16A2 complete swap ecu mounts all for $2000
SHould I "jump" on this deal
or wait it out for the big boy
I want to run mid 13's when all is said I done and I know the b16 will need something

chime in peeps

Mindless 06-26-2005 10:14 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
If it was me I'd jump on the B. Mostly because I'm impatient though. O0

jyjck5 06-26-2005 10:19 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
I would go for the B16A2 It weighs a little bit lighter than the H22 and it'll be an easier, less stressful swap. It's pretty much a bolt in swap.

Check out the pros and cons of both engines here.>http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010

Here they are if your to lazy like me to click links.

B16
These can be found in the JDM SIR and SIRII (among other JDM cars, which I don't claim to know all of which it came in) as well as the USDM 99-00 SI (EM1) and the 99-00 Canadian SIR.

Pros
160 hp stock
High RPM power
Fairly inexpensive
Good transmission
DOHC VTEC

Cons
113ft/lbs torque (very little more than a D16z6 stock)
Without knowing what you're looking for you can end up with a high mileage JDM model
Under 4k or so it feels just like a D16

H22/JDM F20B

Pros
200 hp
H22=156 ft/lbs torque
F20B=145 ft/lbs torque
Great torque
DONT WEIGH THAT MUCH MORE THAN A B SWAP!!
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550

Cons
Harder to install than a B/D motor
transmission feel is vague IMHO
Less info out there for the swap (aka, less experience as they are less common)
Price of swap is comperable to a B18C5 after everything is said and done (mounts, etc)

dragon 06-26-2005 10:22 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
it really all comes down to which cost less. If getting th H22 cost less then go for that instead. It has more power

CivicRacerX7 06-26-2005 10:23 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
thx for the quality info wow

this swap is still in his hatch so Im gonna go for a ride in it and see how I like it first

USS 06-26-2005 10:28 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
I know jack ---- about those engines, besides what was posted above. It seems to me like an H22 would be a more bad-ass engine. More displacement gives you more of an advantage, plus you got to love torque.

CivicRacerX7 06-26-2005 10:36 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
well he wants 2k for the entire swap
h22 on hmotors is like 3800 lol

dragon 06-26-2005 10:38 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
is that including the swap? if not ---- that go for the B. you could put the diff of money to make the B faster.

jyjck5 06-26-2005 10:42 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
yea on hmotorsonline.com The B16A2 complete changeover is $2200 and the H22 engine, tranny, & ECU is $3600

B16>http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000...age&item=30005
H22>http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30017

CivicRacerX7 06-26-2005 10:58 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
hmm so $2000 isnt a great great deal
he's been driving the piss out of it

maybe Ill just save another thousand and go H22a

wonder what an H22a 98 hatch would run

jyjck5 06-26-2005 11:04 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 

Originally Posted by CivicRacerX7
hmm so $2000 isnt a great great deal
he's been driving the piss out of it

maybe Ill just save another thousand and go H22a

wonder what an H22a 98 hatch would run

You can always try and negotiate with him. Try to get it for 15 then work your way up from there.

crx2fast 06-26-2005 11:14 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
hmotorsonline can lick my balls... everyone will always tell you how clean there motors are when they came and what not, because the rattle spray the valve cover, and basicly repaint everything so it looks new, but there still old engines just like everyone sells. they get to much credit imo.... only thing they provide is another engine in case the one they give you fails. witch most companies do anyway.... just look for the best deal and price, all these JDM motors come from the same place and no one relizes that when they buy one.

just wanted to vent on that :)


AgentMurdoc 06-27-2005 03:48 AM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
jeez 3k something for an h22... that's a bogus deal. I coulda got a complete prelude front clip for 3k something.

stillnoturbo 06-27-2005 09:54 AM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
No ----, H22's can be found for like 1500 for the complete swap(minus mount kit). Just look around on ebay.

dragon 06-27-2005 10:12 AM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
No ----, H22's can be found for like 1500 for the complete swap(minus mount kit). Just look around on ebay.

really? the least i found one was like 2 g's including motor mounts, ecu, and transmission.

rudebwoy 06-27-2005 10:31 AM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
I think the B16a2 is a better investment, say for example you decide you want more out of you car, the b16 will have more options than the h22 and will cost less, because they ar more popular, and from what I heard the blocks arre really shitty incase you want to turbo it.. b series all the way

ghettoturbo 06-27-2005 04:47 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
2k is too much....i paid 1300 for my longblock and trans/mounts which was a bit high for me....then 50 for axles

Racintweek 06-27-2005 04:49 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
just buy an LS, better engine all around compared to a B16. h/f series would be way to much work

seerex 06-27-2005 09:02 PM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 
B16a are gay, i had a friend that had 1 in has 89 hb, i always pulled on him and would beat him by a car length, one time by 5 car lengths when vtec fail to activate, did I forget to say it was with my z6.
Steven,

rudebwoy 06-28-2005 02:56 AM

Re: B16A2 should I go for it
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
B16a are gay, i had a friend that had 1 in has 89 hb, i always pulled on him and would beat him by a car length, one time by 5 car lengths when vtec fail to activate, did I forget to say it was with my z6.
Steven,

you have no idea what you are talking about!

but here a h22 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615


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