attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
How much abouse will the drivetrain put up with on these little pimp wagons? I sold my hmt crx, have a spare z6 and I need something for the winter so I was thinking 90 hatch with wagovan drivetrain, 14b, z6, 10 psi'ish. BUUUUTTTTTTT I dont want to do all this work if its going to be super weak. I think I remember leed doing 5000rpm launches on dry pavment 8) I would think this has been done before so does anyone have any website/ articals? I know the crv ---- is better but this is hmt budget style. ;D
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
yeah the drive system is hella week.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by kain
yeah the drive system is hella week.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
This dude put a Z6, turbo, and awd in his 2wd wagon:
http://yota1man.tripod.com/vtecwagon/ You'd have to shorten the propeller shaft. Hatches have shorter wheelbases then wagons. Also rear suspension on wagons is different than all other civics: the rear trailing arms are longer. You'd have to customize the stock ones. How Honda rt4wd works http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=411318 Everyone says the rt4wd is "hella weak". I've never seen it broken. There are a few turbo, SC, Z6, ZC wagons out there, without any failures yet. I would think the rear diff would be the weakest part of the whole system... the rear axles are pinner. The CRV rear diff has the same bolt pattern as the 4wd wagon diff, but considerably beefier axles. |
Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
I am a master fabricator ::) seriously though mods wont be a problem, I just dont want to spend the cash and time if its not worth it. Thanks for the links. does the rear diff from a crv fit in the wagovan subframe?
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
The whole time my shitbox has been boosted its had a slipping clutch. The current tranny has 270k on it, and I have done a ---- load of 6k dumps w/ it in the SL gear on dry pavement. Based on how the system works, it spins the fronts for about half the gear.
Someday, when it does have a decent clutch, I have no reservations about launching the ---- outa it and see what happens. Even w/ the slipping clutch, Im very hard on it daily, and so far so good. Ive already got a back-up trans and rear diff ready for action. |
Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
What year civic is that rear suspension from? I thought all wagons had a solid diff and axle rear end.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Goddamn ------- Schuck's clutch.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by leed
The whole time my shitbox has been boosted its had a slipping clutch. The current tranny has 270k on it, and I have done a ---- load of 6k dumps w/ it in the SL gear on dry pavement. Based on how the system works, it spins the fronts for about half the gear.
Someday, when it does have a decent clutch, I have no reservations about launching the ---- outa it and see what happens. Even w/ the slipping clutch, Im very hard on it daily, and so far so good. Ive already got a back-up trans and rear diff ready for action. |
Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
What year civic is that rear suspension from? I thought all wagons had a solid diff and axle rear end.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
I wonder if this will work on my 92 sedan, if so it could be next years mod, How many wreckers up in the states carry AWD wagons? we dont really have anything good here.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
The Honda wagons only send 10% of the power to the rear wheels so its pretty much a worthless swap. :(
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
I wonder if this will work on my 92 sedan, if so it could be next years mod, How many wreckers up in the states carry AWD wagons? we dont really have anything good here.
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
so, to get more power to rear, what would you have to do? put in a different lube in the coupler thing?
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by Doofnoil
so, to get more power to rear, what would you have to do? put in a different lube in the coupler thing?
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by Sikocivic
The Honda wagons only send 10% of the power to the rear wheels so its pretty much a worthless swap. :(
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Take a quick read and look at the HT thread,
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=411318 Viscous coupling, so the TQ transfer is dependent on the speed diff. between the front and rear and the resulting temp. of the silicon in the coupling unit. Its not a set % |
Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
This guy built a rt4wd crx with the crv tranny. Some of the pics will give you some ideas about what you need to do to the rear suspension...
http://public.fotki.com/morgie/qsr/crx_gsr_awd_turbo/ |
Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
found a 90 wagovan with a blown motor, he was going to take it to the dump, now that I showed some interest he tells me 300.00 ??? I am a super negotiator though I'll get it yet ;D
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by highroller54
found a 90 wagovan with a blown motor, he was going to take it to the dump, now that I showed some interest he tells me 300.00 ??? I am a super negotiator though I'll get it yet ;D
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Re: attn: 4wd wagovan owners cough*leed*cough
Originally Posted by FooK
Originally Posted by highroller54
found a 90 wagovan with a blown motor, he was going to take it to the dump, now that I showed some interest he tells me 300.00 ??? I am a super negotiator though I'll get it yet ;D
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