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Atlas Shrugged
02-27-2009, 05:56 PM
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Re: Atlas Shrugged
I hope they do something more with the ending, its bullshit that you never get to see how they go about fixing ---- after all the looters have destroyed everything, but i guess that would have made the book 1500 pages, lol.
V was pretty good, didn't the people revolt at the end?
V was pretty good, didn't the people revolt at the end?
02-27-2009, 08:47 PM
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Re: Atlas Shrugged
Originally Posted by signorelli21
I hope they do something more with the ending, its bullshit that you never get to see how they go about fixing ---- after all the looters have destroyed everything, but i guess that would have made the book 1500 pages, lol.
Originally Posted by signorelli21
V was pretty good, didn't the people revolt at the end?
Objectivism is about always aspiring to the Ideal, accepting no excuses, and becoming self-realized. In many ways it is unrealistic and inapplicable to real life, but it is the sort of ideology everyone should be exposed to if you want self-reliant and moral people willing to work towards a greater good.
02-28-2009, 01:44 AM
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Re: Atlas Shrugged
The Fountainhead was an imperfect attempt at Atlas Shrugged. Most people are given The Fountainhead to read first, and then Atlas Shrugged, and seem to like both. I went at it from the other direction and found The Fountainhead to be largely a waste of time in light of Atlas Shrugged.
02-28-2009, 07:41 PM
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Re: Atlas Shrugged
Originally Posted by wafflesincars
All of you are gay and Ayn Rand can DIAF.
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Who cares. Revolts are a function of unthinking mobs. The words that create them might be in the form of Ideals, of a sort, but using Ideals to rabble rouse never accomplishes the Ideals.
Objectivism is about always aspiring to the Ideal, accepting no excuses, and becoming self-realized. In many ways it is unrealistic and inapplicable to real life, but it is the sort of ideology everyone should be exposed to if you want self-reliant and moral people willing to work towards a greater good.
To me there is no such thing, every person should think ,act and work for themselves, only because they want to and only because it is their desire to enjoy life and constantly seek improvement by gaining knowledge and whatever possessions they feel compelled to posess.
Basically this is what Ayn Rand was getting at, except in her world the "greater good" would be the community of intelligent people working for themselves, they would in turn do things to help the community but only IF the community recognized the value of whatever service the intelligent person contributed and was appropriately compensated. The Ideology of the self is the only one that would get rid of the socialist mentality most people seem to have nowdays.
Oh is Fountainhead that bad? i just bought it and am now depressed ------- :P
02-28-2009, 07:50 PM
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Re: Atlas Shrugged
Originally Posted by signorelli21
She died like 20 years ago communist boy. :1
Revolts are necessary to bring about change, I think what your talking about in regards to ideals can easily be used to take control of people such as religion, communism, patriotism, etc. especially when you mention the "greater good"
To me there is no such thing, every person should think ,act and work for themselves, only because they want to and only because it is their desire to enjoy life and constantly seek improvement by gaining knowledge and whatever possessions they feel compelled to posess.
Basically this is what Ayn Rand was getting at, except in her world the "greater good" would be the community of intelligent people working for themselves, they would in turn do things to help the community but only IF the community recognized the value of whatever service the intelligent person contributed and was appropriately compensated. The Ideology of the self is the only one that would get rid of the socialist mentality most people seem to have nowdays.
Oh is Fountainhead that bad? i just bought it and am now depressed ------- :P
Revolts are necessary to bring about change, I think what your talking about in regards to ideals can easily be used to take control of people such as religion, communism, patriotism, etc. especially when you mention the "greater good"
To me there is no such thing, every person should think ,act and work for themselves, only because they want to and only because it is their desire to enjoy life and constantly seek improvement by gaining knowledge and whatever possessions they feel compelled to posess.
Basically this is what Ayn Rand was getting at, except in her world the "greater good" would be the community of intelligent people working for themselves, they would in turn do things to help the community but only IF the community recognized the value of whatever service the intelligent person contributed and was appropriately compensated. The Ideology of the self is the only one that would get rid of the socialist mentality most people seem to have nowdays.
Oh is Fountainhead that bad? i just bought it and am now depressed ------- :P
THEN STFU ******.
Everytime you make a point about anything in regard to justifying your half-assed opinion you get really bitchy and start talking about "Ideology" without really backing anything up.
Complimenting Ayn Rand now, and previously, while commenting on Commifornia is hypocritical and stupid.
People who thump that kind of ---- are akin to the ******* who run the Slingshot! bullshit. Objectivism is stupid and ill thought out.
02-28-2009, 08:02 PM
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Re: Atlas Shrugged
Originally Posted by wafflesincars
Everytime you make a point about anything in regard to justifying your half-assed opinion you get really bitchy and start talking about "Ideology" without really backing anything up.
Complimenting Ayn Rand now, and previously, while commenting on Commifornia is hypocritical and stupid.
People who thump that kind of ---- are akin to the ******* who run the Slingshot! bullshit. Objectivism is stupid and ill thought out.
As for Ayn Rand, she was fervently against communism/socialism and if you actually read any of her work you would know that, so I don't see how me disagreeing with communism/socialism and complimenting Ayn Rand is hypocritical or stupid.
the rest of that crap you just spewed doesn't make enough sense for me to bother responding to.
