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Old 03-02-2009, 08:08 PM
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Just because he did that doesn't mean anyone listens to him.


The purpose behind reading Kant is it teaches you how to read difficult ----. If you think you can read through it one time, take notes and understand it, even with Aristotle, you're slightly mistaken. When you mention reading Kant to any of my professors you usually get a "Good luck".
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by signorelli21
lol, no most of the time when i read fiction I feel like I am wasting time I could be spending doing something else,
That makes sense if you associate Koontz with fiction worth reading. :1

Chill dude, I didn't say you were a tard I just said you weren't a right brain entity.


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the people I know that spend vast amounts of time reading science fiction and romance novels are not very grounded in reality
Perfect example, you compare Sci-fi and romance?? All of the best Sci-fi is written by your betters; astrophysicists and chemical engineers and hardcore microchip designing ----------ers who are so grounded in reality that they get paid to play with reality's building blocks. Just because they couch physical reality propositions in fictional terms, and you can't grasp it, does NOT class them with fat can't-get-fucked housewife literature.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:48 AM
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Caleb I hope you realized Aristotle ruined math for everyone for a long time. Plato>Aristotle
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:18 AM
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That makes sense if you associate Koontz with fiction worth reading. :1

Chill dude, I didn't say you were a tard I just said you weren't a right brain entity.
Oh i'm not offended and I hope I don't come across that way, I'm just trying to point out that when you say something isn't worth reading or isn't very good, well thats a matter of opinion and since you have given nothing (other than Atlas Shrugged) for comparison then its easy for me to conclude that any book I name will be bad or worthless, and anything I say will be wrong, simply because you say it is, as for the second statement, I mentioned sci-fi and romance novels because thats what people i work with read but i didn't realise I was making some comparison between the two, aren't those the more popular catagories of fiction?

Also what the hell does science fiction authors being successfull scientists have to do with anything? First your implying that all the "good" writers are leader in their respective industries but once again thats your opinion and is subjective, and everyone of the authors I listed as my favorite "non-fiction" authors fall into the same catagory as being successfull, hell Noam Chomsky alone has written something like 100 books and has been a professor at MIT for a very long time.

And also I never said I haven't read any science fiction but just that I prefer non fiction, I would rather read on the history of World War 2 than the lord of the rings or the hobbit, or all the books in the dark tower series or the twilight series, etc. I like Dean Koontz because I can read one of his books in an evening and be done, but hell like with atlas shrugged or the davinci code or dreamcatcher I am compelled to finish the story and have trouble doing anything else, with boring ---- its not so hard to read a chapter and put it down to go read a chapter in something else and so on, especially since I like to fact check their references.

So thats what I meant by I feel like I'm wasting time when I could be doing something else, I blew two entire days from the time I woke up in the morning until I went to sleep reading the Davinci code, the next day I had to be back at work and had not accomplished anything the whole weekend, :1


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Just because he did that doesn't mean anyone listens to him.


The purpose behind reading Kant is it teaches you how to read difficult ----. If you think you can read through it one time, take notes and understand it, even with Aristotle, you're slightly mistaken. When you mention reading Kant to any of my professors you usually get a "Good luck".
Thats like saying noone listens to Warren Buffet.

As far as reading Kant and Aristotle, well that just sounds like a good challenge, but I think its pretty absurd when people go out of their way to make a complicated peice of literature or hell even in a casual conversation. Think about it, if your a really smart person wouldn't you conclude that if you want your ideas to be shared with the maximum number of people then you should write it at the level the maximum number of people will understand? What good does it do for anyone to read a book 15 times and still not entirely understand it, other than to tell other people that you have read it and have them stand in awe of your awesomeness, lol.

Anyway I will read it and tell you what i think and you can tell me if I understood it, either that or I'll enroll in philosophy instead of welding/math class this semester to see if its worth pursuing.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:47 AM
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Kant didn't make it intentionally hard to read. He was just very odd, old german guy.
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Rawr wishes he was an odd old german guy.
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Walden by henry david Theorou should be translated into Dr. Suess terms for the masses to understand.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CivicOCD
Walden by henry david Theorou should be translated into Dr. Suess terms for the masses to understand.
Why? So everyone can suffer through him whining for an entire text and then taking his clothes home so his mom can wash them?

That book was terrible, Thoreau is a short sighted hypocrite who has his mother wash his clothes.

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Originally Posted by wafflesincars
Rawr wishes he was an odd old german guy.
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Originally Posted by CivicOCD
Walden by henry david Theorou should be translated into Dr. Suess terms for the masses to understand.
Skip Theorou and go straight to Emerson. It will at very least save time to get to the same structure.
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