army issuses new body protection.....
04-07-2007, 04:12 PM
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Re: army issuses new body protection.....
Originally Posted by MADMAX
The 7.62x39 round is not accurate by any means. It is slow, which makes is more prone to wind, and it drops like no other round. At 300 yrds that bullet is gonna drop 3ft. Also, WTF does cartridge design have to do with ballistics?
Are you smoking crack son? The average handgun round (9mm, 40 S&W, 45, 10mm, 357 SIG) have muzzle velocities at just over a 1000ft/sec.
Seriously, GTFO of here.
First, your average 7.62x39 round has around a 2400 ft/sec muzzle velocity. Maybe some handloaded rounds here in the US where the shooter has done his homework, are you gonna get higher velocities.
Second, who the ---- is gonna use a .416 (or any round that ------ big) for a semi-auto, 3-round burst, full auto carbine. Ammo is gonna weigh a ton, so you can't carry as much, also the mags will be serverly limited on the amount of rounds you can stuff in there. Not even close to being an acceptable military round.
Are you smoking crack son? The average handgun round (9mm, 40 S&W, 45, 10mm, 357 SIG) have muzzle velocities at just over a 1000ft/sec.
Seriously, GTFO of here.
First, your average 7.62x39 round has around a 2400 ft/sec muzzle velocity. Maybe some handloaded rounds here in the US where the shooter has done his homework, are you gonna get higher velocities.
Second, who the ---- is gonna use a .416 (or any round that ------ big) for a semi-auto, 3-round burst, full auto carbine. Ammo is gonna weigh a ton, so you can't carry as much, also the mags will be serverly limited on the amount of rounds you can stuff in there. Not even close to being an acceptable military round.
To answer your question. I would use a 416 in a sniper rifle I never said anything about 3 round bursts. I fire rifles as a hobby, I read my ---- on ballistics, so I screwed up on the measurement on the 7.62 whoptie doo. Stats are almost the same by the way and the muzzle velocity has a lot to do with grain which you never even mentioned when you said its 2400 fps, so what grain is that? I'd like to know.
Well. I'm done here, cant argue about ammo with Americans anyway.
04-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: army issuses new body protection.....
Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
Sorry Random, screwed that one up. I have both rounds here now I just pulled out of the case and youre right. But the velocity stats I gave you are correct.
by the way 30-06 sucks for accuracy but has great power. I personally like RPG's but they dont let us have them here in Canada.
by the way 30-06 sucks for accuracy but has great power. I personally like RPG's but they dont let us have them here in Canada.
04-07-2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: army issuses new body protection.....
well i can tell you this the body armour works damn good last month it saved my cousins life for sure he took 4 rounds from an ak47 to the chest and got up. he said it felt like a mule kicking him in the chest he didnt sound to happy but atleast he is alive.
04-07-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: army issuses new body protection.....
Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
Go read some bullet charts. Or do you want me to scan them for you? Also if youre telling me that cartrige design has nothing to do with ballistics then you are the one smoking crack. This is why they designed the .416 in the first place because its more accurate than the .50cal because of cartrige design. Hell if you dont believe me go read about the Barrett .416 and post up some info on it for the rest of us to see.
You used the term cartridge as meaning the casing. Casing design has nothing to do with ballistics, except for charge capacity. "Short and wide" isn't any better than any other casing that holds the same charge.
Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
To answer your question. I would use a 416 in a sniper rifle I never said anything about 3 round bursts. I fire rifles as a hobby, I read my ---- on ballistics, so I screwed up on the measurement on the 7.62 whoptie doo. Stats are almost the same by the way and the muzzle velocity has a lot to do with grain which you never even mentioned when you said its 2400 fps, so what grain is that? I'd like to know.
Again, learn to read, we are comparing carbine rounds, WhoTF said anything about long range rifles?
I wouldn't take the .416, it's just Barrett's way of trying to make bank on their round and get the US Military to buy their ammo, since they are the only ones that make the .416 round. 50 cal is much much more common and significantely cheaper.
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