anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

Yeha ive been looking the last couple of days and i wasnted to know if anyone has ever put a f22 in a rex. i know some people probably dont see the logic in this but i was jsut wondering. as an alternative to d series.

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

Hasport just put an h22 in a crx and came out with all the neccesary mounts, linkage etc. Since the f22 and h22 almost have the same mounts, and shift linkage it should work, with some uberdata for fuel management. I do see the point because of the trq. curve, cheap price of engine, and avaibility. I also can't spell I think I may still be drunk from last night.

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Bisi did it, mated to a D-series transmission I do believe.

One of the H-series mount kits should do the trick. Place Racing used to make a kit (weld in, not bolt in) years and years back but I haven't seen or heard of one for a while. I don't doubt HASport has a $$$ solution for you, though.

F-series is not ideal unless you balance the reciprocating assembly. An LS would get your further, cheaper.

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I love my f block, and I think it would be a nice setup having that much trq. in that light of a car, but true an ls would probually be easier to do. bisi's car is insane and has so much custom stuff done to the engine I don't even know if you can consider it an f block anymore.

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Oh, I'm sure Bisi has an F-block... everything else is questionable. :)

If you had a bunch of stuff just laying around, go for the F-swap. If you want to make big power, or your goal is TOTAL STREET DOMINATION, you'd be happier B-series. Stock engines hold a bit more power, and the transmissions are better.

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Don't the h series trannies bolt right on? Find a jdm lsd tranny and since f-series blocks are a dime a dozen you shouldn't have a problem find one. There like the bigger d-series cause people just take them out and toss them. I've always thought about this but damn the mounts cost more then what I can find a tranny and block for. That just says something right there.

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yup, but if ur gona turbo the F22, then u should stick with an F tranny b/c H tranny has shorter gears, and u dont want to be bearly building boost and then have to shift.

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bisi has the adpater plate now for f to d on his site its not cheap though. Unless you have alot of funds and want to do somethin different stay w/ the B

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dont the f22's have iron sleeves??

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yes, they do. throw some forged pistons/rods in there and she'd run nicely :D

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Poorly balanced rotating assembly in big power situation != running nicely.

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i personally think you should go with a b series i read that article with the h22 crx. i think it ran like crap only a 14.1 in the quater and thats was with lsd and a few bolt ons its a waste of money unless you really gonna go big with it

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I don't know what their problem was, in that issue ALL of the cars ran crappy times.

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that omni ran pretty tight and much cheaper than the h22 crx

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h22+crx=very fast. #'s dont lie so I guess when a k20a only runs 13's in a mag its gotta be the whole story ::)

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JD, how are the B trannys better? They are Known to wipe out 3-4 gearset which cost $300 + labor to replace.

D's just like to break shifter forks, which B's do also. Bisi even stepped back in time to run a 86-89 Teg "CG" tranny this year, a real bastard child of a setup, but it is strong.

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

f22? why not go h22? :) mount kit is available to public! my own custom design.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

Was trying to find how to identify what transmission i have when i found this on google
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread...ostid=17339326
http://www.bisimoto.com/wst_page10.html

That solves 3 of of the 4 mounts, a transmission, axles, hubs and other bullshit you would have to deal with otherwise. Btw anyone else know a website that shows the different listings of d series trannies?

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

what you wanna know about D tranny?

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I've watched endless H-series transmission woes on the few local cars that are even trying. Cable shift insipidness.

Last B-series box I ruined only ground every gear if I wasn't flat on it + speed shifting. After watching D/H series transmissions take a tenth the abuse and not as much whp, I'm biased. I also pick up my oddball 90-91 LS transmissions $50/pop max, I'm up to my seventh spare trans. People want to throw them away.

D's shatter differentials or ---- differential bearings - the shift forks are just a sideline. Do you know anything about D-diff breakage, hmm? :P Atlee went through SEVEN D-gearboxes in under a year for a reason.

I had no idea the CG was even remotely strong - same thing as A-series Accord w/ diff bellhousing and (?) input shaft. Or maybe input shaft was the same.

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

I had been thinking about an F series in my old CRX for a while, even thought about maybe trying it in my hatch. I know Bisimoto racing does make the adapter, but like it's been said...it's big money for one. From everything that i've read so far, Bisi uses a mildly modified F-block, and a stock F-head casting that he obviously obliterates with porting and polishing and all his nice expensive valve train components. According to him though, his big secret is his custom cam profile, and using side-draft carbs for high rpm fuel atomization.
Also, it is true that the f-series aren't very well balanced either. Ever do a timing belt on one? They're a pain in the balls...2 belts...one for timing, and another for a balancing shaft to try and keep things calm at a somewhat higher rpm. The only nice thing about them is the iron sleeve block...they love the boost ;D

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

Add Kaaz or Quaife, no more problems.

I did snap a axle using my massive D15 torque on WIDE 20x6x14 slicks.

Off the to exploded diffs, B series use the same style pinion gears, matter of fact I'll bet the ZC side gears = LS side gears......

this is how most B series trannys are given to me..........this happen in a parking lot going 15-20 mph......or less.......

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi...y/P3130001.JPG

Ask Fowee the details :)

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

they love the boost with new rods, and good tuning, I know what happens without the tunning :P But the timing belts(plural) are'nt that hard to do. I always thought it felt fairly smooth driving it, as long as all the motor mounts are good.

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Tuning is the key word. I'm not saying go all out nuts and stick with a totally stock block and run a crapload of boost, that's just stupidity. But i know there are a few boosted f22's on this forum that run pretty decent with stock internals. Plus i'm sure you can spend a butt-load of money and get it balanced out nicely and even perhaps get rid of the balance shaft as well.

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

the balance shaft is for driver comfort only, nothing to do with the motor performance.

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Yup. I was talking sending the crankshaft, balancer, and flywheel off to be balanced.

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Who cares about driver comfort...my hatch has poly mounts and no A/C...i shake like a sumbitch and sweat at the same time ;D

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I would stick with the f tranny's I don't really care for the d's I blew one up with just a mini-me and no boost at all thing poped so hard hit the bottom of my foot when she went took the diff pin and twisted it in half and shot her out the back left a 3 to 4 inch hole. only had 120k on it too.

Re: anyone ever - f22 --> CRX
 

WEll all of me years of racing I have only wiped out 3rd gear in 2 d series trans. They seem to hold well if you know how to drive and when they break there everywhere for cheap.

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lol, my integra too