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turboDA6 06-22-2005 04:40 PM

Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
well i jus got done converting my pos to 5spd and gettin rid of the clappin timing chain. didn't wanna swap in a sr20 cuz i want some real power. the kA has mad potential but ive only read up on a few peoples setups, haven't really gotten any real info from people that have done a ka setup. can i use the stock internals to about 220hp? how much can i boost with the stock internals? what's decent fuel management... can i get away with using an fmu or sr injectors and afc is the only route? im not lookin at spending a mad amount of cash n i dont want the ultimate speed monster motor. i jus want something decently reliable without expectin to blow like the day after i boost it. ive seen setups go up to 290hp with the stock internals but thats usin some kinda management i never heard of or even kno about.

can anyone give me some tips or little secrets or info on turboing the KA24DE?? thanks

seerex 06-22-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
The stock ka can't take to much power, here is a link to a very nice 1 http://www.nissanclub.com/240SX/jrsx/
Steven,

turboDA6 06-22-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
The stock ka can't take to much power, here is a link to a very nice 1 http://www.nissanclub.com/240SX/jrsx/
Steven,

ur the first person i've heard say that and ur not even a nissan owner... you blew a stock NA d16... thanks anyway

yardy8301 06-22-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
The stock ka can't take to much power, here is a link to a very nice 1 http://www.nissanclub.com/240SX/jrsx/
Steven,

ka can handle tons of power stock. much more than 220.

mfpmax 06-22-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
http://www.ka-t.org/

Dibble 06-22-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
All the KA turbo guys I know(4 of them) love there setups. They make good power. For some reason they still cant out run little turbo dseries.

prelude9384 06-22-2005 06:34 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
slos13 on here has ka24-t

Reddy 06-22-2005 06:50 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
I would personally just get the RB25. I mean when you can get the whole swap for $2200 why not? My friend is running 12.8 stock everything with the rb25.

turboDA6 06-22-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by prelude9384
slos13 on here has ka24-t

that i know. i jus hate buggin him everytime i have a question... jus lookin for someones advice rather then me buggin 1 guy every day... thanks anyway.


Originally Posted by Dibble
All the KA turbo guys I know(4 of them) love there setups. They make good power. For some reason they still cant out run little turbo dseries.

a little turbo d like bbka? i could imagine.

HondaTuner 06-22-2005 06:54 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
I think slos13 was running 15 psi last time I read anything.. still holding up on 200k+ niles O0

Also, is the name of the chick in your avatar Tila Tequila or somecrap?

turboDA6 06-22-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
I think slos13 was running 15 psi last time I read anything.. still holding up on 200k+ niles O0

Also, is the name of the chick in your avatar Tila Tequila or somecrap?

yeah, i talked to him a few times bout his setup...

her real name is tila nguyen but her "myspace" user name is tila tequila but im not even sure which one is really her real name lol... she's a hottie asian chick...

HondaTuner 06-22-2005 07:03 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
Miles, not niles. Urgh.

Yeah, she's a cutie 8)

kain 06-22-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
I think slos13 was running 15 psi last time I read anything.. still holding up on 200k+ niles O0

Also, is the name of the chick in your avatar Tila Tequila or somecrap?

yeah, i talked to him a few times bout his setup...

her real name is tila nguyen but her "myspace" user name is tila tequila but im not even sure which one is really her real name lol... she's a hottie asian chick...

tila nguyen is her real name, tila tequila is her myspace name, tilas hotspot.com is her websight, and im not going to remember what band shes in.

nguyen is pronounced win.

Reddy 06-22-2005 07:14 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
Kain you should go play stump the prev on Howard Stern

toyotacelicagt-s 06-22-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
http://www.sdsefi.com/features/240sx.htm


Good link on a 240....also many other cars on that site

scottsi 06-22-2005 10:20 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
nguyen is pronounced new-yen, i have alot of viet friends.

turboDA6 06-22-2005 11:08 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
I would personally just get the RB25. I mean when you can get the whole swap for $2200 why not? My friend is running 12.8 stock everything with the rb25.

throws off the weight balance. can't get sideways controllably... i would never do that.

N1ghtM0nkey 06-22-2005 11:21 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6

Originally Posted by Whitey
I would personally just get the RB25. I mean when you can get the whole swap for $2200 why not? My friend is running 12.8 stock everything with the rb25.

throws off the weight balance. can't get sideways controllably... i would never do that.

There's ways to fix that, relocate the battery is the first and biggest that comes to mind.

Reddy 06-22-2005 11:35 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6

Originally Posted by Whitey
I would personally just get the RB25. I mean when you can get the whole swap for $2200 why not? My friend is running 12.8 stock everything with the rb25.

throws off the weight balance. can't get sideways controllably... i would never do that.



lol, what a ------- ricer comment and a half. I was waiting for someone to say that. Cause mad tite hella JDM homo faggot drifting is sooo much better than having a fast car. ::) My buddy's 240 with the RB goes sideways very nice. And even more important it goes fast and has more potential and was a cheaper swap than the 4 cylinder piece of ----. Get off the internet and live in the real world.

N1ghtM0nkey 06-23-2005 03:31 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

Originally Posted by turboDA6

Originally Posted by Whitey
I would personally just get the RB25. I mean when you can get the whole swap for $2200 why not? My friend is running 12.8 stock everything with the rb25.

throws off the weight balance. can't get sideways controllably... i would never do that.



lol, what a ------- ricer comment and a half. I was waiting for someone to say that. Cause mad tite hella JDM homo faggot drifting is sooo much better than having a fast car. ::) My buddy's 240 with the RB goes sideways very nice. And even more important it goes fast and has more potential and was a cheaper swap than the 4 cylinder piece of ----. Get off the internet and live in the real world.

It may not be cheaper if they just put the SR20 in without replacing any of the parts that tend to go bad frequently on SR20's. Plus with the RB25 you have to buy special mounts and possibly a special driveshaft (I think?) which drives the price up some unless you can make them yourself...this is HMT afterall.

Now if you take the time to do the SR20 swap right, replacing all kinds of ----, and it's possible if you do JUST the swap it'll cost a LOT more than an RB25 would. Basically the RB25 is the way to go unless you're a professional JDM drifter that can only get sideways in perfectly balanced cars.

And about the origional topic, I think I read somewhere that KA24DE's are good to 300hp or so, SR20's maybe a little bit more. The SR20 is really a crappy motor in stock form...think about it 200hp with a turbo VS an H22 which is .2 liters more and dosn't have a turbo...makes the same HP, I'm not sure on torque however I'm sure the SR20 is probably higher.

Then again think if you put comparable turbo parts on a B16 or B18C, you'd make a ---- of a lot more than 200hp.

Basically it's go big(RB25) or go home.

turboDA6 06-23-2005 10:36 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
only reason i disagree with the comments is its off subject... like i didnt kno i could go rb25... like i didnt kno i could go sr20... if u only knew the rb25 weights as much as 2 motors... yeah i'd be fast but im not even into go straigth as much as i used to be. i been going straight for the past 5 years and it feels like its gettin a little old... i should get off the internet and get a real life? turboing a ka is real life... having to swap in a rb25 jus to satisify whitey with his twin turbo uber tight multi colored nitrous motor that was probably never pushed to its potential... no thanks. i give u props for doing it but thats besides my point. i ask for help with KA and u say "jus put in an rb25"... thats the most ricer comment ive ever heard... get with the program n stick on topic... if i asked about rb25 then u can say gay ---- about it. til then who cares about that motor...


go big or go home..... that's the stupidest thing i ever heard.... if thats the case they why does everyone on this site turbo stock d16's??? go big or go home... everyone should be building fullybuilt LS-V with the biggest possible turbo n best possible management... don't ever tell me to go big or go home biatch... that would need to apply to the world before it apply's to me

Ichi-Go 06-23-2005 01:10 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
Your MAF is gonna be the first thing to max out. KA-T is badass I want to see a good HMT KA-T.

www.nicoclub.com they have a good KA-T section.

Good luck.

scottsi 06-23-2005 03:36 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
from what i remember stock block record on the sr20 is around 450 500hp, mmm stock block record, i love it

Reddy 06-23-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
having to swap in a rb25 jus to satisify whitey with his twin turbo uber tight multi colored nitrous motor that was probably never pushed to its potential... no thanks. i give u props for doing it but thats besides my point. i ask for help with KA and u say "jus put in an rb25"... thats the most ricer comment ive ever heard... get with the program n stick on topic... if i asked about rb25 then u can say gay ---- about it. til then who cares about that motor...


---- you don't need to satisfy me, I don't give a ---- what you do, I'm just trying to help you not waste your money. You talk about wanting a reliable setup but your asking if you can use an FMU for fuel management? You also want a reliable setup without spending alot of money on it? You also say you don't want to swap an SR becuase you want real power but your hp goal is 220? You'll give a ---- about those motors after you spent the $1200 to turbo the KA when you could have had a motor as reliable as stock with tons more potential. I don't understand why your making life more difficult than it has to be but good luck.

turboDA6 06-24-2005 10:47 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
okay then.. ill take a million and 1 pics of me installing the sr... how exciting. bet u guys can't wait to see that. ill keep u updated.

Xgenturbo 06-24-2005 11:35 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
The stock ka can't take to much power, here is a link to a very nice 1 http://www.nissanclub.com/240SX/jrsx/
Steven,

ur the first person i've heard say that and ur not even a nissan owner... you blew a stock NA d16... thanks anyway

Stock KA24de or just a sohc ka24e can handle up to 400whp with proper tuning.

N1ghtM0nkey 06-24-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
go big or go home..... that's the stupidest thing i ever heard.... if thats the case they why does everyone on this site turbo stock d16's??? go big or go home... everyone should be building fullybuilt LS-V with the biggest possible turbo n best possible management... don't ever tell me to go big or go home biatch... that would need to apply to the world before it apply's to me

Turbo'ing stock D16's? That could be considered going big you ------- moron. Compared to a stock D16 with no turbo, in my opinion that is going big. Don't try and prove a point if it's subject to interpretation.

In my eyes there are only two cost effective routes to take with an S13 240SX, and that would be turbocharging the stock motor or swapping in an RB25. Since fuel management options for boosting the stock motor suck, I would go with the RB25.

Good luck with your FMU.

turboDA6 06-24-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey

Originally Posted by turboDA6
go big or go home..... that's the stupidest thing i ever heard.... if thats the case they why does everyone on this site turbo stock d16's??? go big or go home... everyone should be building fullybuilt LS-V with the biggest possible turbo n best possible management... don't ever tell me to go big or go home biatch... that would need to apply to the world before it apply's to me

Turbo'ing stock D16's? That could be considered going big you ------- moron. Compared to a stock D16 with no turbo, in my opinion that is going big. Don't try and prove a point if it's subject to interpretation.

In my eyes there are only two cost effective routes to take with an S13 240SX, and that would be turbocharging the stock motor or swapping in an RB25. Since fuel management options for boosting the stock motor suck, I would go with the RB25.

Good luck with your FMU.


ur an idiot... it was jus towards him as his comment was the stupidest ---- i ever heard "moron".. i ask bout turbo ka everyone says put in rb and go big or go home... so turbo'ing the ka is not better then driving it stock as a d16 is correct?

i dont understand how all ur comments such as these came towards me when all i asked is if anyone else was turbo'ing ka n what they used for management. i went through 3 turbo LS's and ur talkin to me as if i jus joined the site and asked a buncha dumb questions... night monkey suck on my cock bitch.

N1ghtM0nkey 06-24-2005 06:53 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
I would consider this a retarded noob question. I know as much as your faggot ass dreams about another guy performing sexual acts on you, I don't sway that way.

As far as I'm concerned you can eat ---- and die for lashing out at me because you didn't like my opinion. I don't care how many stock LS's you blew up because you ran an FMU or you can't tune for ----, that isn't my fault you choose to run inferior fuel management or beat the hell out of your motors. Engines don't just give up for no reason, either you're not giving it the right amount of fuel and air or you're running too much boost.

I never said there was ---- wrong with boosting a KA24, infact thats one of the only ways to go with that chassis. You want a real answer to your question? You want to know what options are available out there? You can drop a bunch of money on a JWT reprogram or you can buy an expensive stand alone management system. Other than that you're left with the AFC hack or an FMU. I'm not sure you understand this or not but the AFC hack and an FMU are not optimal choices for fuel management, and more than likely will cause your motor to give up after a period of time. Considering you've "been through" several LS motors, you should consider investing a bit more time, money, effort, whatever it requires before you go ------- up more engines.

I don't care how long you've been a member of this website, apparently not a damn thing has penetrated your thick skull if you're even considering an FMU. Do you like to blow up motors? It sounds like you do, you sack of ----.

kain 06-24-2005 07:04 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by N1ghtM0nkey
you can buy an expensive stand alone management system.

my megasquirt is stand alone and was baught and built for under 200 bones. thats not that expensive.

turboDA6 06-24-2005 09:50 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
cute response... n i dont kno what it means to "sway that way".... i never used an fmu on my integ. i had uber street tuned... it ran fine but malfunctioned mechnically... timing belt ripped some teeth then wham. whio's jumping on who when u started it? i wouldn't reply talkin ---- if u didn't start it. i asked a reasonable question considering that uberdata doesn't work for nissan... i kno there's many options of fuel management and i dont need some 10 year old kid whos been reading about hondas' for the past 8 years to "show me whats up"... aem, megasquirt, fmu, afc, e manage. there's a billion different ways to go n i was jus askin "experienced" people for there suggestions... unless u turbo'd one and found the best way to "tune" i suggest u jus eat some ---- and call it a day... afraid of the sun? how bout -----?

turboj0hn 06-24-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
Out of disappointment and sarcasm comes...

Phrase connotation: 101. O0

Go big or go home:

Honda: Dude, get a K series, none of dat stupid D series bullshit. They're not worth it.

Nissan: Dude, get a RB25, none of dat stupid KA series bullshit. They're not worth it.

Personal interpretation cannot change the facts. Walk into a 7-11 and grab a medium sized cup, then say go big or go home. Big implies something of the highest order, it doesn't change according to variances between all options.

btw, survey says you're both retarded.

If you want this to imply that turbo-ing a D is going big, please change the phrase to "go big as your wallet will allow or go home".

scottsi 06-24-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
yeah turboda6 has been on here a while i have no doubt he knows his ----, nightmonkey, i dont see why you chose to pick a fight with him. jesus, damn canadians ???

turboDA6 06-24-2005 11:49 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by scottsi
yeah turboda6 has been on here a while i have no doubt he knows his ----, nightmonkey, i dont see why you chose to pick a fight with him. jesus, damn canadians ???

thank you... man i swear you guys know ive been around. i was wondering why noone decided to even help me out a lil bit. every comment he's made since my thread was started had nothing to do with my title... anyway im not gonna turbo the K no more... jus spend the money on an sr n upgrade it before it goes in... ill keep everyone posted.

N1ghtM0nkey 06-25-2005 03:51 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by scottsi
yeah turboda6 has been on here a while i have no doubt he knows his ----, nightmonkey, i dont see why you chose to pick a fight with him. jesus, damn canadians ???

I'm not Canadian.

The only program similar to uberdata for nissans that I know of is SRTalk, and when I tried even opening a stock basemap, I got frequent lock ups and errors, and it didn't seem as though the program was written by somebody who spoke good English. http://www.zcontrol.net/download.asp?dl=3 is the link for it anyway.

Other than that you're stuck with expensive stand alones (or a megasquirt like kain suggested) or one of the previously mentioned inferior tuning platforms.

Okay, so this guy's post count is bigger than mine, and he's been around longer... I guess that automatically makes him better than anybody else who has a smaller post count or who hasn't been around as long ::).

And for turboj0hn, you're missing the point, it's still open to interpretation. Nothing you said is fact, it is all a matter of opinion.

I'm done arguing, I've done my best to answer your question, so there's no point in dragging this bickering on any longer.

Xgenturbo 06-25-2005 05:37 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6

Originally Posted by scottsi
yeah turboda6 has been on here a while i have no doubt he knows his ----, nightmonkey, i dont see why you chose to pick a fight with him. jesus, damn canadians ???

thank you... man i swear you guys know ive been around. i was wondering why noone decided to even help me out a lil bit. every comment he's made since my thread was started had nothing to do with my title... anyway im not gonna turbo the K no more... jus spend the money on an sr n upgrade it before it goes in... ill keep everyone posted.

Dont waste your money with an SR, they arent a dime a dozen like the KA is, the KA has tons of potential and is much cheaper.

scottsi 06-25-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 
im just sayin, hes boosted his car, i dont see a turbo on your crx

N1ghtM0nkey 06-25-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Anyone else turbo'ing KA24DE Nissan?
 

Originally Posted by scottsi
im just sayin, hes boosted his car, i dont see a turbo on your crx

Not yet anyway, but the simple fact of the matter is he asked a question, and I attempted to answer it as well as provide my opinion. It dosn't matter, just let it go, he got the information he needed.


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