Any Ohio Pit Bull owners here?
 

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/b...?ID=127_HB_568

Cliffs notes:
If the bill passes, everyone in Ohio will be required to surrender their pit bull or dog that resembles a pit bull within 90 days of the law being passed. It will then be euthanised within 10 days of being surrendered.
If you are suspected of having a pit bull in your possession, law enforcement will be able to obtain a warrant to search the premises.

::)

I'm not sure if anyone lives there, but if you do, you might want to consider contacting some of the legislature :3

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They have crap like that in california its just talk. Lets see the humane society allow thousands of animals be killed sure for being a pit bull

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I read somewhere that PETA euthanizes alot of animals, ironically enough.

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In Shelia Tack vs Alabama, a lady wanted to adopt 2 pit bulls taken from a fighting ring bust here in Huntsville. It went to the state Supreme Court, PETA was supporting Madison County to euthanise them.

PETA is a bunch of ------- kooks.

Oh, and they lost the case and Shelia Tack got to adopt the two pits. They became therapy dogs for the elderly and disabled ::)

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I've seen a few of the pit's that have been fighting and they are real passive and chill. It's when they see another dog and are provoked to get aggesive they switch. It's wild to see them change so quick.

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Ya that sucks. They're talking about banning them in parts of MD. Its not the dogs in most cases, its the wanna-be gangsta douche bags that train them to be aggressive. There are lots of other breeds that are naturally more aggressive but its b/c of a few a-holes thats theres now a negative stereo type on these dogs

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im not a pitbull fan at all, but i dont see a need to kill thousands of them just because a few bad apples. look at little dogs like chiwuawuas, they bite much more often than big dogs, but you dont see a ban on them. i can see banning them from big cities, but not the whole state.

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The town nex to mine in north carolina is trying to pass a law banning them. I can only imagine how long it will be before it makes its way to my town, but i doubt ityll make it into law here becuase theres so many pit owners. bad owners make bad dogs.

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Im sorry there are plenty of aggressive breads that are much larger than pit bulls. If they were the most badass mother's cops would use them. German shepards are wicked dogs. They have laws like this to scare people. ---- bred your pit bull with a horse has long has it doesnt bit some white trash kid your fine dont let some fag ass laws take away your rights to own an animal to protect yourself or your family.

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horrible grammer, but well said chris.

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baby eatr :7 :l

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https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y2...IMG_0537-1.jpg


on the prowl for some kids to eat...

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Thanks 3 college engrish classs workzz gooodz.

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I'm not sure what I would do if they ever passed something like that here, they would have to kill me to get my dog

I've had a german shepard, a black lab, a husky, a beagle ,and my pitbull mila. she by far is the most caring dog I have had and has way more character then my other dogs

mila a 8 weeks soaking up sun
https://www.angelfire.com/linux/quin...la_8_weeks.jpg

mila at 5.5 months, she likes sun so does my fat cat
https://www.angelfire.com/linux/quin...5.5_months.jpg

shes 9 months now and much bigger

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My kid killer on the right and my moms kid killer on the left. :1
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Come kick my door in and take my dog from me. At that point I will know that they have crossed a line that should NEVER be crossed and I'm not going to give up my dog without a fight.

I can name 1,000,000 more dangerous creatures other than pitbulls, yet these dumbfucks are trying to kill tens of thousands of INNOCENT/HARMLESS dogs just because of some lowlife losers who fucked up their dogs into thinking it had to kill to live. :3

Teenagers kill people everyday one way or another. Should be ban those little bastards and make parents hand the pieces of ---- over so we can curb stomp them? ::) Planes, trains, automobiles, snakes, bears, bobcats, sharks, boats, jet-skis, hammers, nails, screw drivers, knives, forks, plastic bags, glass windows, lakes, pools, ponds, waterfalls, rivers........all that ---- has killed TONS of people. When do we ban all that ----? :3

I'm gonna go stock up on ammo just incase some nutcase decides he wants to come into my house and kill my dog. :7
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lol, the way around that is to either go to the vet and have them list your dog as a boxer mix or whatever, or spend the 50 bux or whatever to have them AKC registered as whatever breed you want, then if some cock does get a warrant to seize your dog you have documentation proving that its not a "pit bull".

They passed that same law here 2 years ago after several people were mauled by pits, the result was all the local shelters were overflowing with them, so within minutes of dropping off a dog it was taken in back an euthenized without ever giving it a chance for adoption or whatever.

oh yea ---- P.E.T.A

check this out, this is all the reported dog bite/attacks for past few years, theres WAY more cases of german shepards biting people than anything else.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Art...llDogsBite.htm

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I REALLY don't believe it'll pass, just wanted to let any Ohio-ians know so they can bitch to their representatives. If nobody complains about it, it'll pass. I'm sure enough people will complain, it's just ridiculous they'd even propose a law like this. I didn't know Hitler was an Ohio rep.

Out of the two cocker spaniels, the husky, german shepherd, papillon, and cairn terrier I grew up with, my APBT is by far the most chill-tempered and intelligent dog I've had.

I'd honestly be satisfied with having to pay a fee and pass a test to be "licensed" to own a large breed dog if it would help to keep the wannabe thugs from having them and perpetuating their bad reputation. My vet listed my dog as a "mixed" breed although it's quite obviously an APBT. My vet owns a couple herself and suggested I tell people it's an american staffordshire terrier if I want to avoid the negative attention, but says she tells them the truth about her's being APBTs...I have no problem telling them though, maybe a few people will realize they aren't vicious monsters.

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There are tons of problems that plague this breed.

Pit Bulls that are biting humans are a direct result of shitty breeding practices! which are causing fear among citizens who don't know any better and are swayed by the media. A kid gets mauled by a "pit bull," BAM! legislation goes up right away. why? because people fear what they don't understand. We have back yard breeders breeding -----quality dogs who are ------- nerve bags- a poor representation of the breed is what is produced...and... a tragic accident waiting to happen.


There is a -----ton of considerations to breeding a dog, but i'll leave you all with this comment cross posted off a bulldog site.
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Written by top American Bulldog Schutzhund producer, Marcel @ NorthCalABs.

1. Do not breed to re-produce your favorite family pet. Instead go to your local shelter and rescue one of those dogs or puppies someone with the same idea as you had, when he breed his/her favorite pet.

2. Do not breed because you have a male and female with papers. I'll go to this again go to the shelter and pick up one of those pound papered puppies. Yes, the shelter has plenty of pure breed dogs, if you dont believe me go and look.

3. Do not breed because of size or a physical chacteristic. A few examples of these problems, as a breed by average gets larger so does the median for hip dysplasia, not to mention an increase in elbow and all around health problems, shorter muzzle's ultimately means an increase in dogs with breething problems, A dog that is already brachi surfalic does not need a shorter muzzle, blue, does not make a pit bull a better all around dog, period.

4. Do not breed because you think what you have is RARE. My first example goes back to the Blue APBT, if you think your pit is rare because your dog is blue, wake up, or better yet I think you would be a perfect canidate to buy some luxury swamp property from Eic Estrada from the TV show Chips, that same comment goes to everyone that believes there breed is truly rare because it says so in DOGWORLD.

5. Do not breed because your dog is assosiated with that special name. The examples are for AB's (Johnson, Scott, Hybrid, etc.), APBT (Gotti, Colby, etc.), any other remaining bully breeds, please add your own list, and do not forget this one, because there is a prolific dog to the breed in your dogs pedigree, while that is nice to know that does not make your dog special to the breed.

6. Do not breed because you need money, How about getting an extra job, instead of making more work to those that work or volunteer at shelters.

If you ever ponder to yourself, "I wonder if I should breed my dog," Go volunteer at a shelter for a week and then reevaluate your question and ask yourself why would you need to breed?

I have breed and I will continue to breed, I do not breed every year, nor do I breed a majority of my dogs. I have done 3 breedings in the past 10+ years. I own or co own 5 female AB's. I have only breed one of them, and her just once, I have already spayed 2 of the others without ever breeding them (one was spayed due to me not liking her PH score, the other beause I think she is just a great pet dog), the other two are currently in the proving them selves stage.

I have studed out my two males. Trouble who is now deceased, and Malo his son. I have only breed them to dogs with passing hip scores from either OFA or Penn Hip, proven temperments or temperments I test before breeding, and for atletic bulldogs. If the females do not pass any of these three requirements I will not use one of my males to breed to them. I have turned females down, and I will continue to if they do not reach my requirements, but if you do do it with some professionalism it is no one else's business if you turn down one of there female dogs.

I will always stand behind my requirements, and the truth lies in the offspring. My breedings or females I have studed my dogs too have produced, the tightest Penn Hip score in the breed, multi Iron Dog titled dogs, weight pull titled dogs, Champion show and Grand Champion show dogs, multi passing OFA and Penn Hip score dogs, with several in the good and one in the excellent range, or lower then .35 and some in the .21 to .29 range for Penn Hip, not to mention some up and coming young dogs I have seen on this forum (Lizzy and Raiden).

If you settle for nothing but your best you will be amazed at what you can acomplish.

IF YOU ARE NOT BREEDING TO IMPROVE THE BREED, DO NOT EVER BREED!!!!!!

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idk pitbulls dont really scare me, they seem like really nice dogs. i am totally ------- freaked out by german shepards, if they want to kill a breed do them first. those mother fuckers have teeth that will ---- you up.
and i dont get why cops can train dogs to fight people, but they outlaw the public from doing it. no that i want fighting dogs nor am i trying to rationalize it but why isnt peta up in arms about cops doing it?

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Because they're the 'Authority' :1.

I notice more every day that police officers are simply not the best and brightest, they are people who became somewhat socially pidgeonholed and took their job as per an ulterior motive.

Either that or they have a very warped sense of authoritative justice and the reaches therein.

German Shepherds/Belgian Malinois are great dogs btw, any dog/animal remembers things based on association. If you teach it to be aggressive when it has the harness on and everyone is moving very fast, it's going to be aggressive (this also plays into it's nature of pack hunting), just like if a horse was scared once in a barn by a bearded man, the horse may be leary of bearded men when it's in the barn.

Most emotive thought is linked with associative environments.

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Just a quick and dirty generalization, but one reason may be that the majority of Sheperd owners are more respondsible dog owners. You don't see urban kids struttin at the park with their GSD.... typically they are strutting with their poorly socialized pet bull. I laugh when I see tough guys walking down the street with their pit, and you can tell its just a nervious wreck... tail tucked and ears back.... :3

A genetically sound dog who is confident, as all bully breeds should be, will not put on threat displays or shy from anything. Nothing bothers them, therefore they have no reason to feel threatened, and therefore should not bite out of fear. When i see pups or dogs that are shy, sound sensitive, and surface sensitive it throws up all kinds of red flags in regards to whats refered to as "nerves."

Most dog owners who don't know any better think that threat displays (growling, showing teeth, lunging at non threating things) are a sign of a good protection dog or are "protective." NOT true at all! These dogs probably end up biting the neighborhood kid and cause alarm for BSL.

And it is legal to train dogs to do bite work! I train my dogs in Schutzhund, a breed test that was originally designed for Shepards, but now has evolved into an all breed sport. This way you only breed the best with the best. And its more than just aggitating a dog to make it bite or playing tugg. Its teaching control, when to bite and when NOT to bite. And... geneticlly, not all dogs can handle the pressure of training... Ive seen "tough" dogs go out into the field, and once a little bit of pressure is put on the dog, they fold! Its a sport based on training genetically sound dogs.

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""And its more than just aggitating a dog to make it bite or playing tugg. Its teaching control, when to bite and when NOT to bite."

I have a golden retriever, and she can be pretty rambunctious at times...its just how she is, she has had quite a bit of formal training, but she doesnt know everything now...But, if i decided to play around with her and let her be as rambunctious as she wants, i still have control..we play around and we play rough, but she knows the serious face, and she knows no. Ex. We'll be playing around and she'll start getting a little out of hand, so i stop, tell her to sit or lay down, and make sure i have control before we play anymore....something im real proud of with her...its all about positive re-inforcement, something most pitbull owner know NOTHING of...
A guy i worked with picked up a baby pit because a girl conviced him to...first thing i heard out of him was about how he is gonna whip the dogs ass the second it does something wrong...lemme tell you, its hard as **** to convince an ignorant pitbull owner to give the dog respect...

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I know exactly what you're talking about evosol. These "thugs" think their pit is tough because they beat the dogs and make them mean. They don't realize they're just making their dog a big ----- that will snap at anything that might make it nervous.

I haven't read about schutzund and only know the basic idea about what it is, but yeah positive reinforcement is what makes a GOOD dog. You don't want to make your dog scared to do something wrong, you want it to WANT to do things right.

I taught my dog bite inhibition as soon as I got her. I can play rough with her, and if she ever slips and bites a little too hard, all I have to do is say "ow" and she will calmly sit down with her ears back and an "oops" look on her face. Now, as rough as our playing might look, she never bites hard and the only thing you have to worry about is either her sharp nails or accidentally scraping yourself against her teeth.

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My dog LOVES people and wants to meet everybody who is around. He's like the social cool guy that has to walk around and talk to everybody and make friends. It gets annoying when you have to keep him from doing that though. Alot of people freak out if an unknown dog comes up to them, regardless if it looks happy or pissed. :-\ The only time he acts shy or nervous is when he knows he fucked up and chewed something up. :P
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Kudos for using positive training!

Dogs have several different "drives" they work from. The first one seen in most dogs are prey drives, its the want to chase and pounce on anything that moves. Game bred pits and working dogs must have tons of prey drive to excell in their sports. Most "working dogs" are too much dog for the regular pet owner to handle. You may have to use compulsion to get through to them when they are in their prey drives.

The second are defense drives. Most bully breeds have lots of defense drives, essentially, its the will to stay and fight when encountered with something frightening. You can imagine, what a stituation might look like if a high defense dog with shitty nerves might do to a little kid... :o

Bullybreeds and bulldogs (and German sheperds) where bred to do dangerous jobs, which required nerves of steel and courage.... These are things that retrievers where not bred to do, hence their lack of defense drives and prey drives.

I'm not knockin on your retriever, bud, (I also own a Choc. Lab) but my point I was making is that sometimes you need to use compulsion on high prey dogs. They are soo bent on pouncing whatever it is they are focused on they get tunnel vision, this is what i was refering to when i said "control."

My Choc. Lab, i just look at him and he knows what is expected. My 2 American Bulldogs (one is strictly a Schutzhund trained dog), require hours of training and proofing to get the control over their intensity. Labs and Retrievers don't have the intensity to do man work.

As far as training goes...
You got the strictly positive school of thought and the yank and crank school of thought. I'm somewhere in the middle... all my dogs do nothing but positive training when they are less than a year old. I do this to build confidence and bond with me. Once they are over a year old I start to do formal obedience training, where they learn commands. Once they learn commands, and i'm 100% positive they know them, i'll start to use compulsion.

If I give the command "platz," (german for down) and they don't comply, I say "no", and give them a pop on the prong collar. This way they have a choice... which is what i consider to be a fair leader for my dogs.

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Isn't your dog the one who chewed up the couch in the garage? LoL....

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sorry if this has gotten off topic Jorsher, but I just wanted to share this Schutzhund vid i was watching...

I think you'll apprecaite it...

This dog is intense!
Protection
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3887922/...imo_aka_Lennox

obedience
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3887198/...imo_aka_Lennox

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No prob, I'm interested in it and will check it out when I get home. They gave me a new computer at work that has the sound hardware locked and I can't listen to anything haha.

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your avatar gives me a headache :-\

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That's badass. The only thing I don't like about that dog is the way it seems to always be in the way of the person walking. That would get really annoying after a while, especially if you ever turned left. :1
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not from Ohio, and im glad.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y97...n/IMG_0160.jpg
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Yeah that's pretty cool. Where do you find practice targets? :6

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Go here to look up for local clubs in your area. http://www.dvgamerica.com/

If you join a club and get the basics down, you can sick your dog on a decoy all day long.

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http://www.canineadvocatesofohio.org/

For ohio folks and pro-bully peeps...