Jorsher

buk, everyone knows that every ---- hair counts

0 ---- hair > 1 ---- hair

It even defies the principles of math

evilleturbo

i loved how on cnn and msnbc, liberal networks, they did a story saying how much of a *** gore is. He spends in 6 months in electricity and gas for his private place and houses than most people do in 5 years.

if you go to nasa's website, their reports along with those of noaa show that man made global warming is bullshit.
i love how they always show the ice breaking off and falling into the water... and how they are talking about the glaciers in greenland all breaking apart. well the edges are breaking off...because the center of the glaciers have quadrupled in weight and the outward exertion of force is causing them to break. but what does nasa know.

RotaryGeek

at least im not alone in disliking al gore. some one should assassinate his dumb ***. 90% of my problem with him was that dumbass internet remark, and because it was on national tv. how ------- dumb do you have to be to make a remark that blatenly ridiculous on national tv and be serious about it. that is something a 13 year old would say to his friend when they are having an argument over who is better. its just sad that people beleive in an idiot like him.

RotaryGeek

whats the difference between a republican and a democrat? a republican sucks..... a democrat blows. -lewis black.

im not either becuase i dont think either is right. i think we need a good mix of both the be even close to better off. and we need a smoker as a presidant cuz im tired of not being able to smoke anywhere.

USS

The republican party is 'supposed' to be for lower taxes, more individual rights rather than the government doing everything for you. Democrats love to dump money into the government. Just think of the terms "conservative" and "liberal" -

Fiscally conservatives don't like taxing or spending money on useless ----. They put more money into our pockets, thus increasing our spending power.

Fiscally liberal people love to dump money into the government so we get sweet services (government trash pick-up, etc).

The problem is that politics is so fucked that the money we throw into the government ends up wasted and we never see any results.

I'm fiscally in the middle. I think there are certain things the government should do, but a lot that they don't need to do. Those other things we can leave up the individual.

Then you talk about being socially liberal/conservative. Typically these deal with abortion issues, gay ----, blah blah blah.

I'm tired as ---- so this is a stupid generalization. I think we need a blend between the two... or someone extreme to put the system in a headlock and show it who the boss is. Ron Paul FTW.

aero

I suppose methanol is shitty too then. And nitromethane makes shitty race fuel too since its has FAR less energy per mass than gasoline. You better go tell top alcohol and top fuel racers they would go faster with gasoline.

J-SMITH69

those engines are designed to run on nitro. they use huge amounts of it in one single run...

do you want to use large amounts of e85 each pass? you have to use twice as much as gasoline.

there are many reasons why top fuel uses nitro, efficiency isn't one of them. what performance gains do you get out of e85 rather than avgas or race fuel? nothing.

aero

Thank you captain obvious.

Nice to see you pulling numbers out of your ***. Where do you get "twice as much as gasoline"? Sounds like methanol numbers to me.E85 is typically ~30% more. It may not make more power than some varietys of race gas, when knock is the limiting factor, but for the price 1.99 here currently I can afford to burn far more than 30% more when usinig it as a race gas replacement. Running it on the street 24/7 is a significant possibility, for very little extra cost over pump gas.

Ethanol allows you to release more heat energy for a given amount of airflow than you can with gas. More heat energy released will make more power.

http://www.age85.org/ActiveProjects.htm#Grumman Ag Cat Project




The worst issue is the changing mix levels between summer and winter, which JD has mentioned before, but there are several ways around that.

J-SMITH69

if you wanted to run e85 instead of race gas, you could have to change your car (tune, injectors, pump, etc..) to be able to flow 30-50% more fuel correct?

yes you can run much more gas to air with nitro, eth, e85 i guess... but that still means you use a lot more fuel.

seems to mean gasoline still is more efficienct and works better for practical applications than e85

your numbers prove that you need to use about twice as much e85 / eth to get the same or little bit more energy...?

MikeJ-2009

Only performance minded people will benefit from E85 as I see it, and no, it's not about how much energy it puts out, or cost. I'll be using it in the shuttle.