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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...iiM&refer=home

This is why we can't have nice things.

When the government can spend 2 Trillion dollars in taxpayers money, and not have to explain who received that money and why simply because it would cause the recipients to lose money (read - expose their horrible management), it pretty much wraps up our 232 year experiment in democracy. It was nice while it lasted.

At least before when they withheld info from the American people, it was ostensibly to protect lives. Now they openly declare that it's just to protect the profits of the rich.

We had the PATRIOT ACT, then warrantless wiretaps, now loss of FOIA. Our lives must be completely open to the government, but their operations are completely closed to us.

Seriously, WTF?

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...8/ron_paul.jpg

:'(

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this is why i do as much illegal ---- as often as possible,

and why i love the internet

there are places online where we govern ourselves
and there are NO rules

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This is why i mail envelopes filled with misterious white powder, to my congressman

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sometimes i think about how great a violent overthrow of the current cesspool of government would be
read it
http://www.freekentucky.com/reality/blacks6.jpg

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You deal drugs by mail? Thats gangsta.

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No, the rules of 4chan is no CP, and your threads last at most 45 minutes before they are 404'd. ::)

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yea, the fed is basically saying that noone has the right to know how much money they might be losing, also what happens is that since they won't disclose the price they are buying "troubled assets" at, noone knows their actual market value so its all just speculation, in effect everyone that said "the fundamentals of our economy are strong" as little as 2 months ago were talking out their ass, the numbers are wrong, they always have been.

The irony here is intoxicating :1

also see an article stating that the Fed is selling treasury bills at a LOSS http://caps.fool.com/blogs/viewpost....16022760741628

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I'm with you

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founding fathers would never put up with this bullshit, they ------- knew what was up.
people try to say that the constitution was written in a different time and therefor not valid in todays society.
they ------- saw all this ---- way ahead of time and planned accordingly, untill the banks stole the power.

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Pretty damn much.

For being uneducated and not even believing the constitution would last 10 years they sure as ---- knew alot more then any politician these days. Everybody needs to be looking into joining groups like SEMA, NRA, etc. Groups that protect our rights. We cannot keep allowing this bull ---- congress has been pushing to continue. The country is headding for bankruptcy and Harry Ried, Nancy Peloci, etc are steering it. Afterall, last time I was in high school, and its been a few years now. I seem to remember something being taught about Congress (House and Senate), not the President makes the laws.

People blame Bush, and maybe there is some blame that is his, but most of thier frustrations have been manufactured in Congress. I used to think talk radio was boring. Here lately Hannity, Rush, and Glenn Beck are all I try to listen to. The time is coming where as Americans (Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, etc.), we will have to make a stand and tell the government to right itself or be overthrown. We need to stop being pussies about diplomatic relations, and get ---- right.

I loved Glenn Beck's comment the other day, he said some of his fans urged him to run for president and he told them he'd make a bad president, his most used phrase would be what do you mean we're out of missles? cuz he'd be blowing up stupid people.

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Your not going to learn anything listening to those people, I actually like Glen Beck but while I watch his show often and have read his last book, well he is wrong about alot of things, he supported the financial bailout, now he supports the auto bailout but always talks about how the government spends too much and fighting the terrorists, bla bla bla.

The problem with talk radio is those fuckers don't actually read anything except their local bullshit newspaper ( I found that most major newspaper articles are more speculation and opinion than the result of actual investigation, of course there are exceptions) and they pick and choose whatever fits their ideology to try and justify their position, rarely do they allow someone with an opposing viewpoint to debate them on their show. Want to know whats going on in this country? read the foreign papers, read policy journals and essays written by intellectuals that quote sources or references, listen to talk radio with a grain of salt and go fact check what they say.

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if we would just stick to our original policy of non-intervention none of this ---- would be going on. just look at the swiss, no one has anything against them because they don't go around and try to push everyone around. the middle east hates up cuz we wont leave them the ---- alone, if they came here and did that ---- we wouldn't like them either.

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thats why we need to kill them, kill them all. man the 50 with anti-air craft rounds and start taking out mass amounts of politicians and big wigs. >:D i am down for the revolution, where do i sign up. we can execute them all in public and air it world wide. maybe it could cause a global uprising...anarchy for the mother ------- win. ---- you ------- fucks who think otherwise, your opinion doesnt matter

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our country was never a democracy and was certainly never an experiment in democracy

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It was an experiment in taxation with representation, and independence.

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Damn you Alexander Hamilton and your god damn national bank system!! >:(

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If ---- hit's the fan where is the HMT strong hold?

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I've got a couch roving bands of HMTers can claim, as they wander the coutryside making raids on Section 8 housing projects for peanut butter and government cheese.

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Weld a cow catcher to a CRX and we'll have vehicles to rival Mad Max.

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Somebody told me they dont do the cheese anymore. Is this true? I remember the Gov cheese when I was a kid. Those days sucked ass but the cheese was bomb.

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that cheese made the best grilled cheese sandwiches!!!!!

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And Mac N Cheese!

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I guess this point to the folks that went thru past rough times and been frugal all the years.