the 05 mustang...
#31
Re:the 05 mustang...
Originally Posted by Donald125
one thing i don`t understand about push rod motor is, WHY and WHAT makes it produce THAT MUCH more low end tork.
i am not talking about displacement tho
i am not talking about displacement tho
they just lend themselves to a low revving torquey motor, there is much more that has to be moved and has to be moved farther before the valve opens... the valves start to float way earlier than a OHC would... by float i mean they dont open or close all the way
#33
Re:the 05 mustang...
Originally Posted by random-strike
Originally Posted by Donald125
one thing i don`t understand about push rod motor is, WHY and WHAT makes it produce THAT MUCH more low end tork.
i am not talking about displacement tho
i am not talking about displacement tho
they just lend themselves to a low revving torquey motor, there is much more that has to be moved and has to be moved farther before the valve opens... the valves start to float way earlier than a OHC would... by float i mean they dont open or close all the way
#35
Re:the 05 mustang...
Originally Posted by random-strike
Originally Posted by Rx7toStarion
the stroke
Bore X Stroke 3.90x3.62
RSX type S
Bore X Stroke 3.38x3.38
srt4
Bore X Stroke 3.44x3.98
civic coupe 1.7l
Bore X Stroke 2.95x3.72 <--- more stroke than a ls1 :P
#36
Re:the 05 mustang...
for a production/street car there really isn't a replacement for displacement, I'll reluctantly admit that.
do I think that honda motors are better then ford or chevy motors? absolutely. not because of peak numbers though.
having pushrods in a motor is rediculous, we are beyond that now, I'm glad to see SOHC and the few and far between dohc motors in american cars. but I'm sick of people cramming ---- down my throat about how fantastic of a motor their god damn pushrod pushing, carbuerator sucking, old pile of american ---- is.
and for all these people bitching about numbers, compare them both at 1.0L (proportionately)
Mustang Gt 4.600 Liters displacement 302ft/lb peak torque
66ft/lb per Liter of displacement
LS1 5.665 Liters displacement 335ft/lb peak torque
60ft/lb per Liter of displacement
B16A 1.595 Liters displacement 111ft/lbs peak torque
70ft/lbs per Liter of displacement
B16B 1.595 Liters displacement 118ft/lbs peak torque
74ft/lbs per Liter of displacement
what were you saying about torque?
japanese performance motors are for Road Racing there is a damn good reason why a CTR has 1.6L motor that puts out 185hp@8000rpm and 118ft/lb@7500rpm
but I'm with you, if I were gonna drag race, I'd have a large displacement motor, but to tell you the truth, for my application I've been thinking about going to a D15b.
Honda's technology is BETTER period.
do I think that honda motors are better then ford or chevy motors? absolutely. not because of peak numbers though.
having pushrods in a motor is rediculous, we are beyond that now, I'm glad to see SOHC and the few and far between dohc motors in american cars. but I'm sick of people cramming ---- down my throat about how fantastic of a motor their god damn pushrod pushing, carbuerator sucking, old pile of american ---- is.
Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Hey steve.. compare torque
Mustang Gt 4.600 Liters displacement 302ft/lb peak torque
66ft/lb per Liter of displacement
LS1 5.665 Liters displacement 335ft/lb peak torque
60ft/lb per Liter of displacement
B16A 1.595 Liters displacement 111ft/lbs peak torque
70ft/lbs per Liter of displacement
B16B 1.595 Liters displacement 118ft/lbs peak torque
74ft/lbs per Liter of displacement
what were you saying about torque?
japanese performance motors are for Road Racing there is a damn good reason why a CTR has 1.6L motor that puts out 185hp@8000rpm and 118ft/lb@7500rpm
but I'm with you, if I were gonna drag race, I'd have a large displacement motor, but to tell you the truth, for my application I've been thinking about going to a D15b.
Honda's technology is BETTER period.
#39
Re:the 05 mustang...
Originally Posted by bambooseven
do I think that honda motors are better then ford or chevy motors? absolutely. not because of peak numbers though.
having pushrods in a motor is rediculous, we are beyond that now, I'm glad to see SOHC and the few and far between dohc motors in american cars. but I'm sick of people cramming ---- down my throat about how fantastic of a motor their god damn pushrod pushing, carbuerator sucking, old pile of american ---- is.
but I'm with you, if I were gonna drag race, I'd have a large displacement motor, but to tell you the truth, for my application I've been thinking about going to a D15b.
Honda's technology is BETTER period.
having pushrods in a motor is rediculous, we are beyond that now, I'm glad to see SOHC and the few and far between dohc motors in american cars. but I'm sick of people cramming ---- down my throat about how fantastic of a motor their god damn pushrod pushing, carbuerator sucking, old pile of american ---- is.
but I'm with you, if I were gonna drag race, I'd have a large displacement motor, but to tell you the truth, for my application I've been thinking about going to a D15b.
Honda's technology is BETTER period.
#40
Re:the 05 mustang...
I detest mustangs......but that one I would rock in a graphite color with black deep dish rims and a polished lip.
I hated v8s,but now I have mad respect for them.If all goes well my next project will be boosting the 4.7 v8 in my Ram.On 6psi turbo calc. says it should make about 450hp and about the same torque...try that with a d16.
I hated v8s,but now I have mad respect for them.If all goes well my next project will be boosting the 4.7 v8 in my Ram.On 6psi turbo calc. says it should make about 450hp and about the same torque...try that with a d16.