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HMT-Admin 12-11-2003 03:52 PM

When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
I have been working on a customer setup for the past week now. Basically a custom setup on a ZC in a 4g Civic.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/zc5.jpg

Dustin (the guy who owns the car) had previously had a ZC installed in his car by me and beau last year? Anyways he blew up that motor and wanted a fresh ZC installed along with a custom turbo setup (he provided)

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/zc1.jpg

The Engine was absoultly beautiful, I've never seen such a clean bottom & top end on a JDM engine.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/jeff1.jpg

I was going to use the "stealthmode oil line kit" but the return wasnt going to work, so I welded in a small fitting on the oil pan and used basic rubber hose for the return.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/zc4.jpg

I think it was one of the nicest low budget oil returns I've ever done.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/zc3.jpg

As you can see I painted the block "mexican chrome" to contrast the rest of the other parts he had previously painted. Looks pretty good.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/work2.jpg

The work area...

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/work3.jpg

Me and Josh working on the ZC

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/wastegate.jpg

I had to rotate the compressor housing because this SS autochrome manifold puts the turbo out about 2 feet off the engine, lol, and aim the compressor back a bit. So the wastegate mounts had to be "customized" I oblonged the hole and put a nice craftsmen 7/16 spacer in there to keep the arm straight, and no load on it.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/travis1.jpg

As me and josh are ------- around with the engine, Travis (SideWinderx7) was jizzing all over our Copper 350z... very tastey! ;D

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/oldzc.jpg

Old ZC that I get to keep..

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/josh3.jpg

Josh (Turbo90Accord4DR)

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/josh4.jpg

Travis pre-bending the pipe for me over joshs head, lol...

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/clutch.jpg

The massive Stage 7 clutch thats going on the beast!, ya right its a ebay special 99 bucks!

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/travis2.jpg

Travis sits in my "custom warranty parts chair" haha,

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/car2.jpg

The car is equipped with massive gauges

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/car3.jpg

Like whoa? talk about a short shifter, haha

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck1.jpg

Ok, now onto the shitty stuff.. So we put the engine in, bolt everything up, everything is going real smooth. Fires right up, but has a hardcore dead miss from cylinder #2. So we start with basics.. good spark, good fuel, I do a dry compresson test and get wow, a big fat 0! ok, so I fill the cylinder just full of oil, try again, and well guess what another big fat 0! Then I hook up the cylinder leak down tester to see where the ---- its all going. Set the cams so the valves are completely closed and I have 95% leakage in that cylinder, and I have massive pressure coming out of the crankcase, so whats that mean kids? yes... yes... a fat hole in a piston, a broke piston, something very bad.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck2.jpg

So josh talked me into ripping the head off even though I really wasnt in the mood after this. Keep this in mind, that this motor was supplied by the customer, and I had explained to him that I am putting this engine in under the impression it was a "good running engine"

As we took the turbo manifold off, you could see how warped this SS Ass chrome manifold was, the car only ran for about 5 mins and it was leaking like crazy.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck3.jpg

15 mins later, Me and josh ripped the head off in record time, heh. And as we guessed... yes, the #2 piston had a nice chunk missing from the top of it!

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck4.jpg

ya ---- off

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck5.jpg

I still couldnt beleive how clean this engine was, the head looked flawless. What kinda bothered me was, why did this composite gasket come right off in 1 piece? why does it look so new? and why does it not look like a factory gasket? And why in the hell would a low milage ZC just break a chunk of a piston off? My only guess is that this engine was used with NOS at one time, then someone slapped a head gasket on it.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck6.jpg

So now I'm pissed... I bust out the ball hone and start honing the cylinder to see how bad these "scores" are in the cylinder walls..

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/fuck7.jpg

Ya blocks fucked, needs to get bored over a bit in order to reuse it, so basically this engine is junk, I'm recommened to the customer to get another longblock ZC.

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/punch1.jpg

So with all the anger floating around the shop, Travis put on a life vest and Josh wanted to throw a few punchs, hahaha

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/punch2.jpg

Watch out T-REX! Mr. Ross looks angry! rofl ;D

http://www.draglab.com/hmt/dennys.jpg

Trying to calm down, with a nice Dennys 4.99 breakfeast at 3am.

Oh well, sometimes things never go as planned. Once I get another engine back in this car. I'll get some more pics of the completed setup.

Jeff Frank

beerbongskickass 12-11-2003 04:02 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
Great story... educational and funny pictures. That sure sucks the guy bought a shitty motor thinking it was a good though.

SideWinderx7 12-11-2003 04:06 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
lol.. nice commentary! 8)

GimpyCivic 12-11-2003 04:22 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
whenever i do a swap i do a compression test on the palate with a batter and a pair of jumper cables. I've been fucked like this before.

HMT-Admin 12-11-2003 04:32 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 

Originally Posted by GimpyCivic
whenever i do a swap i do a compression test on the palate with a batter and a pair of jumper cables. I've been fucked like this before.

As you can see it was just a longblock, so bolting on a extra tranny & flywheel and hook up the starter? I suppose? but its almost as easy just to toss it in the car. But with the engine looking the way it did, I found it incredibly hard to beleieve that anything would be wrong with it in the first place. ::)

Jeff

88crxSi 12-11-2003 04:42 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
i hope he can deal w/ whomever sold him that POS engine.
---- it, go b16 ;)

Turbo90Accord4DR 12-11-2003 05:11 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
Had a fun night :-) ------- pos engine damn that thing was soooo clean though!

d16forlife 12-11-2003 06:01 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
Gaadam guys that sucks.That why Im afraid to get a JDM engine...you dont know what those crazy japs have done.

LSD Motorsports 12-11-2003 06:16 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
yea seriously thats really crappy for the guy getting his hopes and dreams up that hed be running a turbo beast shortly.. only to find out hell be having chunks of piston in his stocking
Sucks that you have to do a motor swap twice though jeff, good luck man... now weve both installed a blown zc

HMT-Admin 12-11-2003 06:50 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 

Originally Posted by 88 Turbo Crx

Sucks that you have to do a motor swap twice though jeff, good luck man... now weve both installed a blown zc

That just means I get paid twice... No big deal... :P

leed 12-11-2003 06:58 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
<---- jealous of your work area.. :)

Im privy to the old folks home parking lot.

HMT-Admin 12-11-2003 07:14 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
btw, heres the old thread on that car

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...;threadid=2725

BlinD 12-11-2003 09:15 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
Damn thats some ----. Looked clean too. :-\

turbo z24 guy 12-11-2003 10:14 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
haha, fun ---- right there

dYLaN 12-11-2003 11:13 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
this is the owners cousin, oh this kid who sold him the engine isnt to bright, sigh >:( >:( >:( >:(

traff1c 12-11-2003 11:46 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
I wonder if my engines gonna turn out looking like that when i rebuild it... cause a week ago I had a 100shot hooked up and was on the freeway, and was ------- with a muffstang... i held it for about 6 seconds... and then all of a sudden a loud bang, like a shotgun went off fallowed by a nice bluish red flame shot out of the hoodscoop... thought i blew the head??? it was just premature detonation or something i guess... intake smelled like gasoline??? scurry ass ----....

still runs ok i guess...


88dx 12-12-2003 12:17 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
I love the "mexican chrome" I paint everything in shop class with it.

racinskittle 12-12-2003 02:41 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
haha nice story guys :). That was EXTEMELY entertaining! I loved it. The pics and the commentary were great.

Ohh i miss those 3AM breakfasts :'(

OnYx 12-12-2003 03:33 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 

Originally Posted by racinskittle
haha nice story guys :). That was EXTEMELY entertaining! I loved it. The pics and the commentary were great.

Ohh i miss those 3AM breakfasts :'(

definately 3 am breakfasts rule

Bobohc3d 12-12-2003 05:06 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
3am car repairs are must have experience. ;D
great story

projekteg 12-12-2003 09:14 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
is that at your work jeff? you just get to use the shop whenever you want? ------- butter! nice of you to take the kid (josh) under your wing like that ;)

Sinner 12-12-2003 09:25 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
I've been screwed with a bad motor also, I was able to sell its parts and make back most of the money

Nick

BLACKSI 12-12-2003 09:50 AM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 
i know jeff is going to give me a screamin deal on the old zc ;)

Beau

Turbo90Accord4DR 12-12-2003 12:44 PM

Re:When HMT Engine/Turbo Swaps go Bad... (56k Go Away)
 

Originally Posted by BLACKSI
i know jeff is going to give me a screamin deal on the old zc ;)

Beau


wrong, sold to me :-P if he sells it.


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