what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
hi guys i am buying a tune from a guy and he was using a t3/t4 .63 and he said a gt35r i can also use. can someone let me know where i can find a factory turbo or another turbo made with the same sizes.that i can use with the tune
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Won't work unless you buy the exact same turbo, and even then still it might be different.
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
hx35
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The tune mostly dependent on the size of the turbine wheel, the size of the turbine housing, the size of the compressor side, the intake and turbo manifolds' flow, the injectors (not just size, are they the *exact* same units?), and the unique and very particular ground system of each individual vehicle.
Now, since a GT35 is capable of flowing 100+ whp more power than any of the T04E compressors, you are buying a basemap, and not a tune for your setup. Enter in the FACT that your manifold, chassis wiring, injectors, etc, are all different and that ---- isn't remotely what you want to try boosting on. The price you should pay will reflect the $5 chip, the $5 shipping, and a very modest sum that reflects the value of the seller's time for burning/shipping. I don't think you are getting this, I think you are getting assraped because you don't know ----. |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
precision SC6176R
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
precision SC6176R
PT6176 S cover.... ALll trhe R denotes is ball bearing. The PT series are t4 turbine housings however. "same" wheels though |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by blingbling0000
hi guys i am buying a tune from a guy and he was using a t3/t4 .63 and he said a gt35r i can also use. can someone let me know where i can find a factory turbo or another turbo made with the same sizes.that i can use with the tune
it will not work even if you get the exact same turbo, all cars perform different will still need fine tune. |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
i thought the hx35s were very similar to 60-1s if u compare their flow charts.......i would think a gt35 would be closer to a hx40 maybe?
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peak power ratings are similar, but 60-1 is a T04B compressor, and two generations of design behind GT35. If you take a car tuned with a GT35 and strap on a 60-1, ASSuming identical turbine environment, the tune swings pretty rich and makes less power per psi.
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
peak power ratings are similar, but 60-1 is a T04B compressor, and two generations of design behind GT35. If you take a car tuned with a GT35 and strap on a 60-1, ASSuming identical turbine environment, the tune swings pretty rich and makes less power per psi.
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It's a T04B design, just like T67. You can cut covers to go over most anything.
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
It's a T04B design, just like T67. You can cut covers to go over most anything.
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The B cover is relatively small, and people who get the 60-1 need all the extra flow they can get. Now I've seen a t04e 57trim wheel in a .42ar T3 cover (actually, I own two sets), but that still doesn't make it a T3 wheel. When a turbo gets custom-ordered enough, it becomes the norm, and therefor cheaper. Its also a way to sell a cheaper wheel "omg it looks huuuge!".
If you really want a GT35R, you have two options IMO. One is to go to atp and get the journal-bearing GT35, its fairly similar. You could also get the HX35, then have a turbo shop make a hybrid *very* close to the GT35R's wheel sizes by putting on a 60mm 7-blade HX40 comp wheel/cover. I think thats what the HE351W is, but I can't find ---- on the non-vgt version. |
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I thought the HX35 was 60mm compressor inducer and the HX40 was 68mm. IDK too much about Holset's though. I just bought a pair of HX35's; one good and then one locked up, but I bought a factory rebuild kit for it and will have the machine shop prep it. That should get me somewhat familiar with them.
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HX40 is way bigger than GT35
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Originally Posted by crx2211
I thought the HX35 was 60mm compressor inducer and the HX40 was 68mm. IDK too much about Holset's though. I just bought a pair of HX35's; one good and then one locked up, but I bought a factory rebuild kit for it and will have the machine shop prep it. That should get me somewhat familiar with them.
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by brine04
hx35 has either a 52 or 54mm inducer depending on year and an hx40 has a 60mm inducer.
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Pretty sure all the 35 series turbos have a 54mm inducer wheel with a 78mm exducer on the 7 blade and 83mm on the 8 blade wheels. Size isn't everthing though, the wheels shape and fin count has a lot to do with it. Holset's are far from over priced for what you get.
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Not true..... inducer is 61mm JUST like an SC61
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Not true..... inducer is 61mm JUST like an SC61
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
I was talkin GT series (as was the OP).. Not holset greatness... My bad :8
Originally Posted by brine04
hx35 has either a 52 or 54mm inducer depending on year and an hx40 has a 60mm inducer.
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by brine04
fixed
HX35 is to small for man sized motors.... 52 is teh sechs. |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
hx52 = teh sex so from that we can assume that holset = teh sex and from there teh sex ~= the greatness.
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Originally Posted by crx2211
No ----? Well I thought the HX35 was a great performance bargain, but I also thought it had a 60mm inducer. I was willing to overlook the fact that the turbine wheel was a bit big because 60mm is a decent sized compressor. Now that it's a mere 52mm; I'm not impressed at all. Now I'm wondering why all these Honda guys sackride the HX35. I mean a 20G is ~52mm and it comes with a better sized turbine wheel. I guess a big turbine is good for top end though. ----, there are used Schwitzers on Ebay for $125 that have a 55mm compressor and 55mm turbine that have the ETT. I'd just grab one of those fuckers over an HX35 then. Or maybe a GM-8 off a Chevy diesel. As I see it now; the Holset is a trumped up overpriced (relatively) ricer symbol.
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I don't disagree that the straight HX40 is bigger than the GT35r. But...I was speaking of a hybrid. Thats technically what a GT35 is anyways. The newest HX40's have a 60mm inlet (7blade); the 6/8 blade units are 59mm and some 58mm IIRC. The VGT turbo is basicly this HX35/40 hybrid - 60/85mm in/exducer, and a HX35-sized tubine wheel (mainly since the housing opens to a ~25cm size, which is like >2.0AR). The thing is the Holsets are designed for constant (and higher) boost, which is why their housings are physically larger.
Regardless Holset FTW. You really can't go wrong no matter which unit you get. For the OP, get an HY35 - its closest Holset to your basemap's turbo. |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by brine04
hx52 = teh sex so from that we can assume that holset = teh sex and from there teh sex ~= the greatness.
HX35 is for -----s |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
You fail on so many levels.
HX35 is for -----s |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by brine04
Can an hx35 run faster than 11.90's? :1
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by brine04
Can an hx35 run faster than 11.90's? :1
http://www.eville140.com/video/1088.wmv |
Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
Originally Posted by brine04
Can an hx35 run faster than 11.90's? :1
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Re: what turbos are the same as garrett gt35r
It's possible to upgrade regular t31/t04e and full T4 GARRETT turbos with the gt3582R compressor wheel.
It makes a turbo able of the same power, with spool up that you can manipulate at will by changing the turbine housing and wheel specs and it's half the price of the gt35R. |
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