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f0rsfed 08-18-2004 08:10 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
I guess it's early or I'm just stupid, but where does the purple line hook to. I see it says the intake pipe pre turbo, does that mean you weld or tap in a fitting?

si2die4 08-18-2004 08:29 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
Alright kids this is what I do about the PVC system. The system on the back of the block is fine and doesn't need to be fucked around with. For the valve cover breather buy one of these things;

http://static.summitracing.com/globa.../mor-25900.jpg


Its a crankcase evac kit. This thing is for a V8 so there's twice as many parts as you need. But it basically uses your exhaust to pull a vaccum out of your block. V8's have been using these things for years.

Here's a basic rundown of the parts

http://www.newbieforces.com/files/mo...--tutorial.JPG

Than all you do is run a hose from your valve cover to the fitting that is now welded on the exhaust. If you have a cat weld this on after the cat. This system is simple and effective

So guy, what happens when the pcv valve on the exhaust closes and there is no were for the vapors to go?? Also why would you sugest to keep the stock PCV system when it was not designed for boost? This can be VERRY BAD for your rings! :-\

f0rsfed 08-18-2004 09:29 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
And I've also seen a couple people run two lines from there valve cover on the front to the can itself. Any difference in this set up than the others.

quadnie 08-18-2004 09:42 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
^^^^^^^^^^
Valve cover is typically for breathing, sucking air in. I don't really know why a catch can would be connected to it?

Paperchase013 08-18-2004 09:46 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
my valve covers alway seem to putting out air rather than in.

breathing doesnt mean to take in air, now does it?

quadnie 08-18-2004 09:51 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
It *should* be sucking air in. On a v8 one side sucks, the other blows (valve covers that is). Are you running a turbo and is it hooked up properly?

myrmex 08-18-2004 11:23 AM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
Whats inside the catch can ? i guessed it was empty and made my own with an old rad overfill that i had laying around , would it work correctly ?

quadnie 08-18-2004 12:41 PM

Re:what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
most catch cans are empty cylinders but some are filled with a foam type substance I believe.. I've never bothered to take apart a high end catch can to find out :-\

ztan 04-04-2005 03:36 PM

Re: what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
This thread shows 2 different setups, 1 setup with the breather element, the PCV is likely always working in the high vacuum range, means low PCV recirculation all the time. While in setup 2, PCV is always working in high circulation mode, or if you are unlucky, 0 vacuum leads to blocking PCV.

Basically, it works on the difference in vacuum between intake and intake manifold. Take a minute to understand that this difference is also how people measure load of the engine. Low vacuum difference = high load (WOT), high vacuum difference = low load (TB closed). Also note that under all conditions, vacuum pre TB is always higher than post TB, it is just a matter of high or low.

Now, physics tells us that when vacuum difference between intake and manifold is high, air will take alternative path through the crank case into the intake manifold. Without the PCV, during low load, high amount of air will take another route due to high vacuum, and vice versa. This is counter intuitive because we want maximum circulation during high load.

So, PCV valve is put in to "reverse" the bahavior, as below

if vacuum is -ve : Reverse flow situation, intake manifold has higher pressure than intake, PCV blocks. (this never happens in NA anyway)
if vacuum is 0 : Engine's off, or instances where both vacuum and intake manifold are of the same pressure. The PCV blocks.
if small vacuum : High load condition, maximum PCV bypass
if high vacuum : Low load condition, small PCV bypass
if very high vacuum : PCV blocks (condition of back fire, causing temporary pressurized crankcase, PCV blocks to prevent fire from reaching the intake manifold)

As you can see, on both end of the range of vacuum, PCV blocks, and it is best to design your system such that during low->high boost/throttle, the vacuum difference works in the range of slight vacuum to some high vacuum level.


R-MAK 04-04-2005 05:42 PM

Re: what to do about pcv valve from boost
 
wow, thanks for bringing up a dead thread :P


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