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Water Injection 2008

Old 12-18-2007, 06:16 PM
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What's the problem here?
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Old 12-18-2007, 06:26 PM
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What's the problem here?
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:43 PM
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Cool I got a sticky. :P
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:49 PM
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a little repetitive but overall a nice write up. good job. now we need some actual tuned numbers. preferably tuned before adding, then tuned after adding to see what kind of power you made.
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Old 12-22-2007, 10:23 PM
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Here's some decent info on Water / Meth

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=14745

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Old 12-28-2007, 09:06 PM
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Why do all the nig-nogs have to ---- on perfectly sound, albeit (that means 'although', ***********) uncommon ideas not used in OUR community?

Although using just water isn't all that helpful with low IAT's, using a mix of methanol+water helps regardless. Methanol supplies both fuel and oxygen, as well as boosts octane. Methanol helps makes more power at any psi/iat due to the fuel & octane aspect. Most cars at the limit of their fuel run 50/50 mix, and all you need is the -25F washer fluid (40% meth) for a cheap mix. I was actually reading everything on the Devilsown website (sell progressive injection controllers/kits), and everything there supports the evidence that meth works, but works best only when your setup is maxing out due to something (usually gas or turbo).


FWIW, my friend's Evo 8 used to make mid 400's (iirc it was 437awhp) with a stock turbo, and the only mods were increased boost, a better tune, a clipped turbine, and Meth Injection. He has a 55gal drum of methanol sitting at his mom's house. I can't get you dyno sheets, since his car just came back from some place in Chicago or Ohio, and past 600awhp with the new gt35 & ----.
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Old 12-30-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HiProfile
Why do all the nig-nogs have to ---- on perfectly sound, albeit (that means 'although', ***********) uncommon ideas not used in OUR community?

Although using just water isn't all that helpful with low IAT's, using a mix of methanol+water helps regardless. Methanol supplies both fuel and oxygen, as well as boosts octane. Methanol helps makes more power at any psi/iat due to the fuel & octane aspect. Most cars at the limit of their fuel run 50/50 mix, and all you need is the -25F washer fluid (40% meth) for a cheap mix. I was actually reading everything on the Devilsown website (sell progressive injection controllers/kits), and everything there supports the evidence that meth works, but works best only when your setup is maxing out due to something (usually gas or turbo).


FWIW, my friend's Evo 8 used to make mid 400's (iirc it was 437awhp) with a stock turbo, and the only mods were increased boost, a better tune, a clipped turbine, and Meth Injection. He has a 55gal drum of methanol sitting at his mom's house. I can't get you dyno sheets, since his car just came back from some place in Chicago or Ohio, and past 600awhp with the new gt35 & ----.
Man I was waiting for this post.

Nobody shat on anything, except the thread I was trying to keep clean, in that they want to know what "works".

Yes meth works by adding thermochemical potentia, as does water, I just explained why. I really wanted someone to step up and be like, "I don't know what ya'll's problem is, squirting water and methanol will yield power returns, my buddy's car made x amount with this and x amount of this with this, this, and this done."

No ----.

The more energy required to explode the fuel the more heat energy you can throw at it.
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my friend's Evo 8 used to make mid 400's (iirc it was 437awhp) with a stock turbo, and the only mods were increased boost, a better tune, a clipped turbine, and Meth Injection.
This ---- gets redundant solely because I just can't seem to say it enough times where people realize the reason you would spray these substances into the intake.

But that's neither here nor there, our "community" happens to be more power, or faster, for cheap. No one else on here gives a ---- about being an import elitist, because we know imports fail anyway, they are simply cost effective- sometimes.
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:15 PM
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This is a fairly good discussion of the practical setup side of it :

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=292953

the only ones i would consider are PWM and port PWM, preferably the latter driven from the injector channels for a good fuel:water ratio at all times.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:22 AM
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http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/waterinjection.html

A bloody load of really good, yet redundant with respect to the cases presented here, information.

Seriously there is a lot of ---- to read on that page.

*Ninja edit:

That ------- site has everything you'd ever need to know about water injection and a good bit about engines in general.

Oh, and for you piffy fools who want some kind of magic numbers there's a calculator at the bottom of the page to do all your work for you, well practically.
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:13 AM
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water injection is the S*** 3 years of ultra abuse on my rotary and still perfect... KNOCK OWNED
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