UK hmt beginner with a shitty french car!
 

alright guys new to the site, names Sam im 16 from Nottingham England, iv got a Peugeot 106 gti 1.6 dohc 120 bhp, nothing special, i can see its not the norm on this site but iv joined to gain some more knowledge about boosting my car on a budget, I'm handy with a welder and got a fairly good mech mind and fabricating skils, back in the uk on pug106 owners there all gay and don't believe you can turbo a car without spending THOUSANDS, here's my car

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Im looking at increasing power by around 60bhp if not more ?

basic parts list i have so far is...

.DIY manifold
.DIY down pipe
.Boost piping
.Intercooler
.T25 turbo
.Thick head gasket and bolts
.Dump valve
.dump valve t piece
.Boost gauge
.Larger injectors from a higher spec car ?
.2.5 bar map sensor
.oil feed and return lines
.mod sump for oil lines

Now management i was thinking a dastek unichip if you know what one is but not really sure what to go for and what would be my best bet on a budget so if you guys could help me ? and add to my list maybe change a few things, give your thoughts on my plans and maybe add some of your own / what you would do, be nice lol! cheers

anyone ?

Check out DP-engineering

They specialize in Peugeot turbo stuff..

yes but i dont want a shop bought kit, hence "home made turbo" eg collecting viarious parts for a hmt... not big wallet go pay somone to turbo my car

If you feel like a challenge go full standalone with megasquirt, you an get a build it yourself MS kit from diyautotune.com for like 139 (iirc) I think the hardest part would be installing it into your car, but there are plenty of people who have done it before and are willing to answer questions (i know because they have answered mine ;D)

I love this. You know, people were saying the same things about Hondas when I got into the scene 12 years ago. If you have success with your project, you will have something that is truly unique: a rarity these days.

It appears that your engine has a MAP sensor rather than a MAF, which is a good thing. Like others have said, the biggest question mark with not-particularly-popular models is ECU tuning - but Megasquirt has solved a lot of that issue.

Best of luck!

nice one for the help so megasquirt is my rout for management you think, ther is no one out of the thousands of members and around 40 people on there that have turbos that have made ther own kit there all stock bought eg cituning kits or dp as said above i believe it can be done

Another frenchy owner here, also very close to turboing, my route however is using a mishmash of tried and tested parts, mainly cituning basic turbo kit less the turbo which I have sourced myself (2nd hand Saab T25), I've been reliably told that cituning do indeed base there basic kit around this turbo for a few reasons, firstly this turbo is set to a low 6psi and secondly the flange positions and oil feed are all accessible positions.

If you do decide to turbo keep myself posted on your progress, keen to hear how someone else puts a kit like this together.

There is a new basic turbo on a site I came across, it maybe up your street as the major pipework components require welding to the relavant flanges, let me know if its of intrest to you...

ManC

i agree on the megasquirt idea. dollar for dollar, thats the best route. there are better and easier ways to do it, but it will cost 4 times what the megasquirt does

awesome gona look into the megasquirt then cheers, also manc id be verry intersted, and wat you turboing ?

eventually an e30 BMW 325i

ever considered an afc?? i know its pry quite a bit over there but it would be easier than a full standalone.

i would never consider an afc.

+1 on that. Having a jerky 8(or 16) "correction" point cheap-o piggyback (well more $$$ than a MS but cheaper than a good PB like a perfect power SMT8 ) wannabe like an AFC would be a LAST choice for FI EMS. Scratch that its not even a piggyback,the AFC was originally meant for people who wanted to upgrade their injectors and was designed around japanese cars. The AFC only sees the computers fuel injector signal, RPM, and MAF, so it really is only guessing at adding fuel based on what it thinks you want ALSO it only has the ability to add MORE fuel to what you allredy have, you cant take away any. The megasquirt is a good option for FI because it uses MAP instead of MAF which is more accurate for an FI setup, it is also has completely programmable fuel and spark curves, so instead of jumping up 8 or 16 points which you have to program, the megasquirt will smoothly utilise a fuel and spark map based on AFR targets and the autotune feature. the only downside is finding base fuel/spark maps (not hard at all), finding AFR target maps (also not hard at all) and having to wire it in (also you need a wideband sensor/computor but 14point7.com has 50 dollar WB02 computers and has a damn good deal for HMT members. look in the sponsor or whatever its called section). And there are plenty of websites where people have full writeups on how they installed and tuned there MS for you to read and work from.

/rant, why do I care so much, i dont even work for them or anything :confused:

Megasquirt is definatley a step in the right direction but wiring it into you engine loom is going to be a tall order I would say, there is a Megasquirt based product out there that is also plug&play ie:no engine loom modification required plugs straight into your single/multiplug OE ecu connector, let me know if your intrested, bare in mind it aint as cheap as the homebrew/home build Megasquirt ecu already mentioned.

The kit I am referring to will require you to fabricat/modify you existing manifold and indeed a downpipe, once your over these MAJOR hurdles you should be on a winner. LINK

I'm taking a bit of a easier route in regards to my turbo setup, I'm hoping to get a cituning basic turbo kit which includes a s/s T2 turbo manifold & downpipe along with a remote oil filter, oil cooler and oil feeds to/from turbo, and source all other parts (FMIC, induction pipework, injectors...) separatley, its all a little expensive and I'm looking for a few others who are serious about turboing there car and possibly organise a groupbuy, this way I should be able to get the cost down a little, let me know if you seriously intrested.

I have a Saxo VTS which as you may know is almost identical to a 106GTi, certainly the engine and gearbox ;D

ManC

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