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reddevil 04-13-2007 12:54 AM

Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Boost currently is pushing the limits of the damn boost gauge! >:D I'd take a picture, but I like to keep my hands on the wheel at that stage!

Currently the downside is that the supercharger is definately sapping some power. I need to fabricate a bypass tube and impliment it sometime soon. I suspect my whp will jump something like 30-50 whp!

Even still, nothing like breaking 3 tires free in third gear! (it was wet, I admit it)..

EG-prince 04-13-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
gangstur. post new vids and pictures. yours is one of my favorite hmt projects

reddevil 04-13-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
So clean and sleepy looking

http://www.vincentfurniture.com/phot...shedapril6.jpg

con 04-13-2007 01:09 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
going to need engine bay shots of the completed setup and panty ripper vids :y

reddevil 04-13-2007 01:17 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
"old" shot. but it looks identical to what it currently looks like.

7-1 compression by the way.

http://www.vincentfurniture.com/phot...rboinstall.jpg


stillnoturbo 04-13-2007 01:32 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Hell with that compression no wonder your maxing our your boost gauge.

EG-prince 04-13-2007 01:38 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
you should go with some alky/water injection to help bring down the temp effects from the supercharger

reddevil 04-13-2007 01:43 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by EGgyLShatch
you should go with some alky/water injection to help bring down the temp effects from the supercharger

Installed and running as of 4 hours ago!

Need to tune for it.....

xternal 04-13-2007 01:43 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by highroller54
going to need engine bay shots of the completed setup and panty ripper vids :y

Congrats , you have succesfully completed stage 1 , now where are the dam vids :P

reddevil 04-13-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Multiple 12.7 runs this night....

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4186/img20041xj1.jpg

EG-prince 04-13-2007 01:52 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
I think you are the top candidate for the "Sleeper of the Year" award

90dx 04-13-2007 11:18 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by EGgyLShatch
I think you are the top candidate for the "Sleeper of the Year" award


Originally Posted by EGgyLShatch
gangstur. post new vids and pictures. yours is one of my favorite hmt projects

:y :)

Smith-02 04-14-2007 02:30 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by reddevil

http://www.housemd-guide.com/season2...s/217house.jpg


you look like hugh laurie :8

reddevil 04-14-2007 03:18 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Except Hugh Laurie doesnt blow up every 250 miles.... :-[

yup, lost another piston.

I had a better flowing exhaust installed today (3") and well, it leaned me out.\
Damn, when pushing the limits, every, every, every, did I repeat every?, change must be tuned via wideband thats reliable.

Obviously I didnt.

Motors out and ready to fix, but I am going fishing.

Smith-02 04-14-2007 03:19 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by reddevil
Except Hugh Laurie doesnt blow up every 250 miles.... :-[

yup, lost another piston.

I had a better flowing exhaust installed today (3") and well, it leaned me out.\
Damn, when pushing the limits, every, every, every, did I repeat every?, change must be tuned via wideband thats reliable.

Obviously I didnt.

Motors out and ready to fix, but I am going fishing.

fishing for?

AMkrew 04-14-2007 02:45 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
fishing for?

Those things that swim around in rivers, lakes, and oceans, and eat bugs... They're called "fish". Once you "catch" them, you can eat them. It seems, when he said he was "going fishing", he was going to "try" to "catch" a "fish".


BoostedBSeries 04-15-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by AMkrew
Those things that swim around in rivers, lakes, and oceans, and eat bugs... They're called "fish". Once you "catch" them, you can eat them. It seems, when he said he was "going fishing", he was going to "try" to "catch" a "fish".


"you" arent as "clever" as you "think"

reddevil 04-15-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Motor is back in and would be running.....

But.......

Some asswipe kiped my damn radiator! I forgot it was sitting out behind the shop when I pulled the motor on Friday. Its gone today.... >:(

More money down the tube.

CspecRun 04-15-2007 09:43 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
what kinda loser steals a radiator?? sorry to hear that man....

koreanwilcox 04-15-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Hell yeah bro.

When you bringin that beast to an autocross event?? I'll see you in SM class!!

P.S. You will probably whoop my ass.

AMkrew 04-16-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by I Have An STD

Originally Posted by AMkrew
Those things that swim around in rivers, lakes, and oceans, and eat bugs... They're called "fish". Once you "catch" them, you can eat them. It seems, when he said he was "going fishing", he was going to "try" to "catch" a "fish".


"you" arent as "clever" as you "think"

lol

reddevil 04-21-2007 12:48 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Back up and running. I had it running on tuesday, on wednesday I took it down off the jack stands and closed the hood.

Wouldnt start. Blown fuse to the ECU.

Swapped out the fuse. Made it down the alley. Poof. Swapped another fuse in. Poof.

Walked back the shop, grabbed two more fuses and some electrical tape. Taped up all my loose wires that may have been the problem. Starts right up. Drive it 40-50 blocks, dies 1 1/2 from the shop. Swap another fuse in. Poof.

WTF?

Put in a 30 amp ciruit breaker and try to start. Bad idea. Something smokes.

Tow it to the shop. One hour later find the culprit, injector wire grounding out.

Trip to the junkyard and score an ECU, 3 relays and extra fuses (those damn fuses are $3.99 a pop).

Yank out my ECU, check it over, its fine. Yank the ignition relay. Pee-yoiu! Toasted.

Put it all back together. Starts right up.

Back to boosting about 20 psi right now. Running extra rich for the moment, and installed the largest meth nozzle. Starts to bog at about 5750 rpm, but thats fine with me, I will tune it down when I get to the drag strip.

I do have a weird miss. #2 cylinder is not firing at idle. I can pull the plug wire and the idle stays 99% the same. Pull any other plug wire and engine stumbles and dies. I pulled the fuel rail and pressurised it, but the injector is not leaking noticable. However, as I type this, I "may" have switched injector plugs..... Easy check.

As you increase the RPMs, if you pull the plug wire, you definately feel the difference, and on boost, power is smooth....

Have some weird noises, but one may be a throwout bearing "whisper/click", the other is either an exhuast leak on one cylinder, or something in the valvetrain down low on the head I pulled.

Ah well, at least it runs right now... haha.

reddevil 04-23-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Replaced the coil. I "think" it was bad....

Did some paint work. Just have to let the paint dry for a few days, then hose off all the sanding dust.

http://www.vincentfurniture.com/phot...erpainting.jpg

CspecRun 04-24-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Man, I'm not tryin' to flame because I think you have a TRULY badass ride, but ur ruining the outside appearance of the car...If it was MY car I would take that chrome striping off the lips of the fenderwells and strip the paint down to where the whole car could be primered and repainted one SOLID, good lookin color. Or maybe two-tone, the top 1/4 of the car one color and the bottom 3/4's another...Just my opinion of course, to each his own...

CXyD 04-25-2007 12:33 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
hey which supercharger you are using

SkunT 04-25-2007 12:46 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
that thing is absoutly beautiful. Can you give a rundown of the build...

reddevil 04-25-2007 01:20 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Build list

Final build list....

Phase 1 2.5 open deck block with pinned cylinders
Phase 1 2.2 crank
Phase 2 connecting rods
STI pistons
ACL bearings
3 ply metal headgaskets (branded Subaru)
2.5 phase 1 heads mild port and polish - unknown what they are from, but they came with oil outs but no oil in (?)

Estimated compression is 7.2-1

Twin turbo intake manifold
1990 2.2 throttle body
820 cc modded STI 550 sidefeed injectors
3-1 Vortech rrfpr

2.5" intercooler piping
Modded large bore JECS MAF.
Big Ass Intercooler

Borla NA header
Custom uppipe and downpipe
2.5 exhaust for now

T3/T4 Garret/Precision turbo (GT30r equivilent)
Eaton M62 supercharger
Greddy "Trust" Manual boost controller

PerfectPower6 piggyback

Devils Own meth injection kit with progressive setup

3 bar MAP

Perfection brand flywheel (new)
Spec stage 4 clutch with 4 puck (if it shows up in time)

And probably some other crap....


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Well, I either have a cylinder down, bad/weird/uneven injectors, something else, or all of the above. You can hear the miss, kinda like a bad lumpy idle. On startup, it sounds like a cylinder is down, but its done this from the moment I built it, and it still made 310 hp....

At idle, it runs on 3 cylinders. #2 is a no go. You can pull the plug wire and nothing. But if you hook up a timing light, its firing.... You can pull the injector plug and nothing happens. But if you start revving up the engine and hold it steady. then pull either the plug wire, or the injector clip, it starts to stumble. ie, revving makes the cylinder fire.

If you pull #1/#3/#4, engine kills fast.

Getting on boost? Runs fast. Other than being untuned and running rich, everything seems perfect.

??????

The kicker, the miss sometimes dissappears!

I compression tested #2..... Its 30 psi. This would mean something is wrong. Duh.... But why would the miss come and go? It will (and definately not in the higher percentage) suddenly start idling close to perfect. At this stage you can pull the plug wire/injector clip and this DOES affect the idle.

Also, the idle AFR will range about. Worst idle = dead rich. Best idle, 14-1.

I can change the tune at idle, and get the AFR to lean up/richen up, and this affect idle, but then it sometimes goes wacko again.


I swapped #2 and #4 injector. No difference.

I am thinking either the injectors are way different in flow and messing things up, or I have a bent valve, or both.....

reactone 04-25-2007 05:49 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Badass ride..Keeping things sleeperly is a challenge! I like the paint, it really embodies the DIY mentality here. :y

HMTguy 04-25-2007 07:34 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Looks much more sleeper with the IC painted black, I like the setup a lot.

turboed26 04-26-2007 04:00 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
does that wierd thing have hydraulic lifters?

reddevil 04-26-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Yeah, rocker arms on the hydraulics...

DrSeuss 04-28-2007 06:01 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Could you have a valve which is slightly sticking open. Or a hydraulic lifter which isn't properly taking out valve lash (and not fully opening the valve), causing both the ticking and the lack of compression?

Anyway, that thing is utterly badass. Apart from the new paint job.

stillnoturbo 04-28-2007 09:57 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
I say do the bottom all red then the from the bottom of the glass on up do all black. Not feeling the new ummm paint job your rocking right now. :-\

HiProfile 04-28-2007 10:52 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 

Originally Posted by reddevil
Estimated compression is 7.2-1

----, my grampa's antique 41 ford flatbed w/flathead is running compression like that - for the 60-something octane listed on it's specs plaque. :S

I'm curious how much that thing weighs. Mid-12's with 30psi and awd, must be tipping 2 tons?

reddevil 04-29-2007 10:33 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
The wagon weighs in at 2700 lbs.

Finally am in the 1.7xx 60' time.

Because I have yet to get the SC to switch off, and then be bypassed, I am leaving 30-50 hp on the table.

Also, because I am such low compression, I am probably needing to up the boost a bit more..... But only on a dyno for safety!

I have some of the parts for the SC bypass valve, but still need to gather the right solenoid and so forth...

reddevil 05-06-2007 03:30 AM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
And its official. 30 psi is WAY too much for the shitty SPEC pressure plate. I was finally pulling 12.5 sec 1/4s at 112 mph, and the clutch started giving out everytime. :(

reddevil 05-12-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Twincharged wagon is hitting 30 psi!
 
Boost was well over 30 psi today, but kept having either clutch issues, or running rich and bogging in the top end. When it ran well, it ran swell though. Couple of 12.6 @ 112 with crappy launches.


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