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brax90si 01-23-2003 08:40 PM

turbo+supercharger=alot of boost
 
now i was just wondering is there anyway to run a turbo setup into a supercharger....would it work.... ::)has anyone ever heard of this?

TurboEF9 01-23-2003 09:16 PM

Re:turbo+supercharger=alot of boost
 
..oh c'mon...

Amallick 01-23-2003 09:17 PM

Re:turbo+supercharger=alot of boost
 
not sure if im right, but i think i heard something about a 1st gen supercharged mr2 with some sort of hks turbo.

reg22 01-23-2003 09:49 PM

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yup.. that's right.. HKS made the twin charge kit for the 4AGZE...

http://www.twelve100.com/faq%20and%2...ifications.htm

TurboEF9 01-23-2003 09:55 PM

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That just seems like overkill. Not to mention that fuel mangement would be a BEAST on a custom setup. ???

There were previous posts about combination charges i.e. from twin turbo setups not producing a "total" boost or something. I'm not sure I understood the whole thing, but it was basically saying that if you have two turbos running on an engine, thier combined boost would not be 20psi.

Could some explain that with some clarity. Seems the search engine is still broken.

J-SMITH69 01-23-2003 10:58 PM

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is they are in paralelle you wouldn't get the sum of the two pressures.
if they are independant you would get the sum.

why super and turbocharge. why not just concentrate on one. and if you're going to supercharge. ---- turbos. superchargers are way superior to turbos. just supercharge! they're expensive though.

i guess super and turbocharging has good racing characteristics. having the supercharger for the bottom and a huge turbine for the top end.

Johnny.

Chacko 01-24-2003 03:05 AM

Re:turbo+supercharger=alot of boost
 
Older racing cars used both, because the supercharger defeats any chance of boost lag. Its not a bad idea, but it is a lot of money to invest into the car - I was hoping to do something similar to this myself. But on a Honda with a single intake manifold, my supercharger would only serve as a means of killing turbo lag almost indefinently.

shortyz 01-24-2003 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
is they are in paralelle you wouldn't get the sum of the two pressures.
if they are independant you would get the sum.

why super and turbocharge. why not just concentrate on one. and if you're going to supercharge. ---- turbos. superchargers are way superior to turbos. just supercharge! they're expensive though.

i guess super and turbocharging has good racing characteristics. having the supercharger for the bottom and a huge turbine for the top end.

Johnny.

you could get more CFM. which is what counts.

HMT-Admin 01-24-2003 09:12 AM

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you guys remember that article in sport compact? it was that meguires Type R.. with a HKS turbo and a blower... twin FI setup, on a completly stock b18c5 tuned with a Apexi Fcon, it made something crazy like over 400whp (15psi).

Jeff

sean2133 01-24-2003 10:48 AM

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In the 1980s, Lancia ran a Delta for rally racing that was twincharged. The supercharger was cutoff at 4000 rpm and the turbo by then had spooled up thus no turbo lag. It produced over 400 whp on a 1.8 liter 4 cylinder. Did 0-60 in something like 4 or 5 seconds. HKS made a twincharger kit for 1st Gen MR2's (AW11) like someone else already mentioned. Produced something like 350 hp. It would be possible, but requires lots of tuning with regards to fuel and supercharger cutoffs and also trying to get enough room under the hood for both is a slight problem.

Sean

reg22 01-24-2003 07:08 PM

Re:turbo+supercharger=alot of boost
 
here's a link to the Delta S4 "the most outstanding rally car in history that did not won world title"

http://autozine.kyul.net/strange_car...e_60.htm#Delta S4

reg

brax90si 01-24-2003 07:16 PM

Re:turbo+supercharger=alot of boost
 
thats really cool i never knew about that....well i need to think of something different...already been invented...i bet that car was fun as hell to drive...awd...turbo+supercharger...damn..

G-reX 01-25-2003 02:54 PM

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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...c/fcbb1f10.jpg

How about this.

Chacko 01-27-2003 02:00 PM

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thats a nice picture G-rex

Vertigo 01-27-2003 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by G-reX

I hope hes running alcohol :P

89dxhunchback 01-27-2003 04:00 PM

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waste of time, do you guys have any idea how hot that air is going to be ?? Unless the S/C kicked off like the the rally car setup, it would just hold the turbo up.. Ask any guy with an automatic tranny and a turbo is he has ANY turbo lag ? My friends GN that has a T-66 turbo leaves the line with 18psi ( 28-30 max ).. Turbo it and don't waste good boost on a S/C, unless you wanna spin your wheels a lot and get smacked up top...

J-SMITH69 01-27-2003 08:08 PM

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it would be better if they used a centrifugal supercharger arther than a roots type blower. the centrifugal supercharger wouldn't slow the turbine down... at least i don't think it would... how could it :)

Johnny

shortyz 01-27-2003 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
it would be better if they used a centrifugal supercharger arther than a roots type blower. the centrifugal supercharger wouldn't slow the turbine down... at least i don't think it would... how could it :)

Johnny

do i creep you out! ;D

looky him go GO GO SPIDY!! CHA CHA CHA

J-SMITH69 01-27-2003 10:58 PM

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yes, that guy is extremly gay, he just screams ---- me in the ass. it really makes me sick to my stomach watching it.

Johnny

Hybridhatch 01-28-2003 10:31 AM

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Check out the new issue of Sport Compact Car, ther are actually removing the 4-banger from a second gen MR2 and dropping in Twin-Charged V6, sick!

whiteb16crx 01-28-2003 04:45 PM

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hey they put the supercharger trd and next issue will be turbo on a v-6 in the same car. can wait.

wildman 01-29-2003 10:25 PM

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"It produced over 400 whp on a 1.8 liter 4 cylinder"
from the post about the lancia delta..

this is my engine.. a 1.8 liter twin cam lampredi designed engine.. I would give my left nut for that supercharger. they were small and worked freeking great. that car killed in the rally's for years. it sounded cool as hell. if you go to turbo124.com he has pics of a scrap engine from one of these cars. its iteresting to see how they did it. these were built custom by abarth.


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