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05nut 01-10-2009 01:45 AM

Turbo Suggestions for BBC ?
 
I'm helping a buddy turbo his 65 nova. He is building a 8.8:1 compression 496 stroker for it. He wants to go with a single turbo setup hoping for 1000 whp. Would a GT45 (.69 AR compressor/1.05 AR Turbine) be big enough? He said he can get a used one pretty cheap. If not, any suggestions. Holset?

Hitchhikkr 01-10-2009 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by carkrazed2005
I'm helping a buddy turbo his 65 nova. He is building a 8.8:1 compression 496 stroker for it. He wants to go with a single turbo setup hoping for 1000 whp. Would a GT45 (.69 AR compressor/1.05 AR Turbine) be big enough? He said he can get a used one pretty cheap. If not, any suggestions. Holset?

Two would be enough. ;)

Jesus man a 496 anything shouldnt have a problem putting 700+ to the ground, an extra 300 from a tiny huff of boost isnt a stretch. Hope the rest of the car can take it...

05nut 01-10-2009 02:32 AM

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I was just worried that the exhaust AR would be too restrictive for all those damn cubic inches.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-10-2009 03:30 AM

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T6 exhaust side required for sure.

I would look in the 88mm - 91mm size range, yes I realize that this is way overkill, but it will at least get out of that motors way when not in boost.

Smith-02 01-10-2009 05:39 AM

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hx55 will get you there

05nut 01-10-2009 01:35 PM

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What about one of these guys?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Huge-...QQcmdZViewItem

dummee 01-10-2009 01:43 PM

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That's a big bitch

jackfrost1031 01-10-2009 02:14 PM

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--i'm a retard

05nut 01-10-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jackfrost1031
learn how to read a compressor map.

Learn how to keep cock out of your mouth.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-10-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by carkrazed2005

It would work fine, over kill on the compressor side (good for about double what you are after), but its not like a 496 doesn't have enough torque to shed the tires on the street all by its self anyway.

The hx55 with the big exhaust side would be enough turbo, but I would goto at least a an hx60, and probably right to that 82, if you have the room.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-10-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jackfrost1031
learn how to read a compressor map.

That is about the least important thing on a motor like this, thanks your a real benefit to have here. :1

I can think of about 15 compressors off the top of my head that would work fine, but the turbine they are attached to would choke the ---- out of that motor. 4294 for example.

accordepicenter 01-10-2009 07:14 PM

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you could just run a small turbine with enough compressor size to support the motor but build the manifolds etc to utilize large wastegates (at least 2x) to get the most flow out of them, then the motor will make boost right off the bottom but the wastegates will keep the restriction down to make power

HomeMadeTurboz 01-10-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by accordepicenter
you could just run a small turbine with enough compressor size to support the motor but build the manifolds etc to utilize large wastegates (at least 2x) to get the most flow out of them, then the motor will make boost right off the bottom but the wastegates will keep the restriction down to make power

This sounds like it should work, but in fact when you run a drive pressure gauge, the drive pressure is the highest when the wg is OPEN. So you end up with the same problem of heat build up and detonation issues as you would with a small turbine and small turbine housing. IMO run the biggest turbine side you can, that will still allow the spool that you require, this is probably different then the spool you want.

I have had a few bbc/f/m vehicles, and I NEVER thought they needed more bottom end. Every honda or car I have owned under 2L could use more bottom end, but I will always sacrifice that for a good turbine to compressor balance / top end smash you on the highway.

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05nut 01-11-2009 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dvst8r
This sounds like it should work, but in fact when you run a dp gauge, the dp is the highest when the wg is open. So you end up with the same problem of heat build up and detonation issues. IMO run the biggest turbine side you can, that will still allow the spool that you require, this is probably different then the spool you want.

I have had a few bbc/f/m vehicles, and I NEVER thought they needed more bottom end. Every honda or car I have owned under 2L could use more bottom end, but I will always sacrifice that for a good turbine to compressor balance / top end smash you on the highway.

Well, he seems determined to get that GT45. It has a 1.05 AR turbine so I think when I build the manifolds, i'm gonna use 2" SCH 40 instead of 1.5". That should give it a little more breathing room. That in conjunction with what accordepicenter mentioned about large wastegates, it should work out all right. I was so hoping he would jump on the HX82. That would be badass.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-11-2009 03:19 AM

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Is that GT45 a T4 or T6 1.05 there is a big difference.

Hitchhikkr 01-11-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dvst8r
Is that GT45 a T4 or T6 1.05 there is a big difference.

Yes, since a T4 would def choke off anything with that displacement. There are stock LS1's running that GT45 that spool off the line, and run 10's on like 15 pounds....

05nut 01-11-2009 03:55 PM

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Its a T4 divided turbine. He's gettin it this week I guess. Its brand new and he's gettin it from one of his buddies for $400 :o. I'm think i'm gonna try to get him to sell it and get something bigger or get another one and run twins. Twin gt45's would get it done.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-11-2009 08:04 PM

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Or just get him to buy a T6 exhaust side for it.

05nut 01-11-2009 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dvst8r
Or just get him to buy a T6 exhaust side for it.

I thought about that. What all do I need to know in order to find one. Just inducer and exducer dimensions, right?.

HomeMadeTurboz 01-11-2009 11:41 PM

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Yup, or the actual numbers off the turbo, if it is a genuine garrett.

mistowomofo 01-12-2009 10:55 PM

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