Turbo Kia ^_^;
03-31-2007, 12:45 AM
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Turbo Kia ^_^;
Nothing too fancy here... Ugly log manifold, GT1752 thats been around the block a few times.
Not so sure what I am going to do with the intake. The MAF has to stay in play until I get the Megasquirt and convert to MAP.
Don't mind the messy engine bay, it's only been 60,xxx miles since I cleaned it. ROFL.
The lower radiator hose had to be relocated. It used to run right through the middle of that thing I've got as a downpipe. The feed from the block came out behind the turbo, and there wasn't enough clearance behind the turbo, between the block. So I had to take the sawsall to the steel drain-fitting thing, and got some flex pipe from Kragen (thanks to 2G6 for that) and yeah, I guess it works. We'll see if it leaks...
My virgin butt-hole, don't ever say I didn't post any pr0n
Edit: Here's the updated intake, just to keep all things in one spot for easy-lazy-ness of some interweb utilitarians.
This shows my dirty battery better than evar!1oneone!11!!
Don't mind the spawn of Satan fire and brimstone on the ground there... I'm pretty sure it wasn't there when I took the picture. But I called the local excorcismist just in case... :1
The gates of hell really started crankin about 17 minutes after we took this picture. In hindsight, I have no idea why I didn't take the duct tape off to show you guys the flange... Anyways, that square there is where I am going to route the BOV.
Just some KDM (yeah, not Japanese, Korean rofl) angle action of the new setup overall.
Anyways, I'm still flipping coins on whether I want to run winshield fluid injection, or an intercooler. Charge pipes are going to be tight either way...
Like slightly mentioned before, management will be MegaSquirt. Until it gets here, the OBDII computer can lean out slightly larger injectors at WOT. The 19# 5.0 Mustang injectors are just big enough to handle 7PSI, (which also happens to be the max boost the ECU is happy with) and just small enough for the computer to lean them out while in cruise conditions. Mustang injectors will go on tomorrow, and I'll flip a few thousand more quarters.. LOL Once I'm running the MS, I'll up the injectors to 30#. For now, tuning with just the ECU, this wastegate is supposed to be around 7PSI, so this all works out pretty well. Anyways... All standard stuff you've seen a hundred times over. So, if you guys wonder anything, feel free to step up to the plate. Criticism, positive feedback, hate it or love it, I'll hear it all.
Thanks for the time folks.
03-31-2007, 12:58 AM
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Re: Turbo Kia ^_^;
Originally Posted by Jorsher
I hate kia but is always interesting seeing something other than the usual honda (which I'll be showing in a week assuming everyone ships my ---- out in a timely manner).
How does it pull? Video footage?
How does it pull? Video footage?
Had to pull the A/C off, which should help it pull considerably more from what I hear from some other Kia guys. As soon as I get it finished, I'll take some video and such.
I used to drive it with CAI, 4-2-1 header, and 2.5" exhaust. Brought it from the ~85-92 WHP stock, to maybe the ~90-96 range... I'm hoping to be in the ~120 range, when on the full 10-12 PSI on standalone. We'll see what happens.
03-31-2007, 01:12 AM
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Re: Turbo Kia ^_^;
Originally Posted by NethercuttML2
Eh, just in-case it was misleading, it's not running yet.
Had to pull the A/C off, which should help it pull considerably more from what I hear from some other Kia guys. As soon as I get it finished, I'll take some video and such.
I used to drive it with CAI, 4-2-1 header, and 2.5" exhaust. Brought it from the ~85-92 WHP stock, to maybe the ~90-96 range... I'm hoping to be in the ~120 range, when on the full 10-12 PSI on standalone. We'll see what happens.
Had to pull the A/C off, which should help it pull considerably more from what I hear from some other Kia guys. As soon as I get it finished, I'll take some video and such.
I used to drive it with CAI, 4-2-1 header, and 2.5" exhaust. Brought it from the ~85-92 WHP stock, to maybe the ~90-96 range... I'm hoping to be in the ~120 range, when on the full 10-12 PSI on standalone. We'll see what happens.
Anyway, what size is that engine? 120 with 10-12 psi? I hope you can get more than that. Either way it should be a lot more fun. Keep us posted.
03-31-2007, 01:19 AM
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Re: Turbo Kia ^_^;
Originally Posted by Jorsher
Nah while reading I understood it wasn't running, don't know why I posted asking about how it runs. Possibly the 4 hours of sleep for 3 days? Don't know.
Anyway, what size is that engine? 120 with 10-12 psi? I hope you can get more than that. Either way it should be a lot more fun. Keep us posted.
Anyway, what size is that engine? 120 with 10-12 psi? I hope you can get more than that. Either way it should be a lot more fun. Keep us posted.
I don't even know if I'll ever get to 10-12 PSI, I'm sure things will break before 10.
03-31-2007, 08:23 AM
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Re: Turbo Kia ^_^;
it should work ok.
you don'T have to convert to map but make sure you recirculate your bov between the turbo and maf.
turbo may be small. will work, certainly will spool super quick, but keep us posted on the top end..... at worst, it's a t25 flange so you can bolt on a larger turboin the future.
you don'T have to convert to map but make sure you recirculate your bov between the turbo and maf.
turbo may be small. will work, certainly will spool super quick, but keep us posted on the top end..... at worst, it's a t25 flange so you can bolt on a larger turboin the future.
03-31-2007, 09:27 AM
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Re: Turbo Kia ^_^;
Originally Posted by BLAAST
it should work ok.
you don'T have to convert to map but make sure you recirculate your bov between the turbo and maf.
turbo may be small. will work, certainly will spool super quick, but keep us posted on the top end..... at worst, it's a t25 flange so you can bolt on a larger turboin the future.
you don'T have to convert to map but make sure you recirculate your bov between the turbo and maf.
turbo may be small. will work, certainly will spool super quick, but keep us posted on the top end..... at worst, it's a t25 flange so you can bolt on a larger turboin the future.
Converting to MAP is solely for ease of the MegaSquirt. I'm not a big MS guru, but the guy building the unit for me converted his Rio to MAP, and said it saved a whole lot of headache.
I'm excited to find out how the power curve is going to turn out. This small turbo should have the motor out of vacuum before 2500 RPM, electronic rev limiter set to 6000. This gives the tiny GT17 3500 RPMs to build boost in, I'm hoping I don't choke out, but we'll see. One thing for sure, I'll need to find an aftermarket clutch soon. I fully destroyed my 0-mile factory clutch before 30,xxx miles, and convinced my dealer to warranty me a second one. We do have an OEM replacement style clutch, and the (http://www.competitionclutch.com/ind...location=sport) Competition Clutch Gravity Series 2400 available for our models so far. I'm pretty much sure that CC is gonna be my next purchase, once the turbo is finalized.
03-31-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: Turbo Kia ^_^;
Originally Posted by NethercuttML2
Could you explain the logic behind recircing? From what I understood, the MAF couldn't see boost anyways, it only see's airflow. With the sensor being pre-compressor, it shouldn't see boost ever. Now the unfortunate truth behind our OBDII system is that, even though the motor doesn't see boost on the intake side via MAF Sensor, it will realize that it is burning more fuel efficiently (doesn't even have to be lean/rich) and go nutso, at least after a certain point; 7 PSI. So, I'm not quite sure I understand the need to recirc, but I trust your word. I would think it has something to do with the sensor saw air going in, then when the BoV let out, there would no longer be any charge in the pipes. I'll let you set me straight. Just wondering if you have any insight as to why?
Converting to MAP is solely for ease of the MegaSquirt. I'm not a big MS guru, but the guy building the unit for me converted his Rio to MAP, and said it saved a whole lot of headache.
Converting to MAP is solely for ease of the MegaSquirt. I'm not a big MS guru, but the guy building the unit for me converted his Rio to MAP, and said it saved a whole lot of headache.
