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inthad 11-09-2008 02:32 PM

Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
I put on the turbo and the car wouldn't start
It cranks and has power. Or I don't hear the fuel pump
I have no fuel or spark. The fuel pump don't even come on.
setup
b16a2 obd2
dsm 450cc w/ reistor box
t3/04 50 trim garrett

I got the ecu with basemap for my setup from phearable.net

Can it be that the resistor box is wire wrong?
I check the dead end clip and it is good.l
The 4 cut wires goes to the four wires that is from the resistor box. And the red wire from the resistor box goes to all four of the dead end clip. Right?
Or does the resistor box have to be ground?

then I put the stock injectors in and run the stock ecu. I still can't start it. I don't hear the fuel pump prime.
this is a running car before the installation of turbo.
Can it be my main relay? How do I try if its still good?

BoostForLife 11-09-2008 02:39 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
Check your fuel pump fuse, I had a friend with a same problem on a stock 2000 si. Fuel pump fuse went out and he had no fuel or spark. Also, check all of the ACG fuses.

inthad 11-09-2008 02:46 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by BoostForLife
Check your fuel pump fuse, I had a friend with a same problem on a stock 2000 si. Fuel pump fuse went out and he had no fuel or spark. Also, check all of the ACG fuses.

I check the fuel pump fuse, its good to go.what is the acg fuses?
yes, this is on a 99 civic si stock.
there is only one fuel pump fuse right?

lock-pop! 11-09-2008 03:45 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
i had the same car.... with the same problem.

i had the igniter go out twice

also 2 fuel pumps

i was being stupid msd 2 steppin on ------

nikolass 11-09-2008 07:21 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
i had a problem like that too...it was the ems fuse under the hood. good luck!

inthad 11-09-2008 09:53 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by nikolass
i had a problem like that too...it was the ems fuse under the hood. good luck!

ems fuse?
I really don't know where to start.
I didn't really mess with anything other then wiring up the resistor box and injectors.
What about the main relay? anyone know how to check it?

hard2obtain 11-09-2008 10:15 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
Remove the obd2-1 Jumper harness, and check fuel and spark again, that could be the problem

inthad 11-09-2008 10:18 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by hard2obtain
Remove the obd2-1 Jumper harness, and check fuel and spark again, that could be the problem

yes, i removed the obd2-1 jumper harness and plug back in the stock ecu and stock injectors and the same thing happens
no fuel or spark
Where from there?

BoostForLife 11-09-2008 10:21 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
check all the fuses, it only takes 5 minutes

inthad 11-09-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by BoostForLife
check all the fuses, it only takes 5 minutes

I checked the fuse. they are good.
my buddy say its the main relay. But how do i test if its bad?

Turbocharged Innovation 11-10-2008 01:18 AM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
try to replace it with a a/c relay or any 5 pin relay i believe. also use a test light to see if there is power before and AFTER the fuse box, if not after u know ur problem is in the box.eliminate ur options and it will be easier to find the problem.good luck to ya

txdohczc 11-10-2008 05:22 AM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by Turbocharged Innovation
try to replace it with a a/c relay or any 5 pin relay i believe.

sorry man that wont work the main relay has about 10 wires not 4 or 5 its a completely different type of relay

BoostForLife 11-10-2008 06:44 AM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by inthad
I checked the fuse. they are good.
my buddy say its the main relay. But how do i test if its bad?

Did you check the big fuses under the hood by the battery? They range from 30-50AMPs and are held by two fillips screws/bolts.

confUsed 11-10-2008 05:59 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by inthad
I checked the fuse. they are good.
my buddy say its the main relay. But how do i test if its bad?


Just take it out and resolder all the pins. Worked for me on two cars with same problem.

inthad 11-11-2008 12:29 AM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by confUsed

Just take it out and resolder all the pins. Worked for me on two cars with same problem.

alright, I'll check it out.

inthad 11-11-2008 06:45 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
hey guys,

How do you check if the resistor box is still good? I need to check it.
If you slice the deadend clip and took out the resistor box and dsm injectors, and put on the stock injectors do you have to solider back the slice wires?
Or can I leave them cut and just make sure they don't touch each other but putting any end on them.

thanks

mdz1989 11-12-2008 10:13 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
If your not getting no fuel no spark It could be the ecu ground on the thermostat housing under the hood, or one of the two engine to chassis ground straps, when you cycle the key does the check engine light come on at all?

good luck

inthad 11-12-2008 11:48 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by mdz1989
If your not getting no fuel no spark It could be the ecu ground on the thermostat housing under the hood, or one of the two engine to chassis ground straps, when you cycle the key does the check engine light come on at all?

good luck

where is the ground for the thermostat housing? I cycle the it and i don't see a check engine light come on

inthad 11-15-2008 06:02 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
Alright, it check

and there is no check engine light , I think its the main relay, but where is the relay located at on 99 civic si

help

b18. 11-15-2008 06:06 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by inthad
Alright, it check

and there is no check engine light , I think its the main relay, but where is the relay located at on 99 civic si

help

Should be under the driver dash toward the side of the car, on your right if you're laying on your back.

At least I think so.

inthad 11-15-2008 06:50 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
Should be under the driver dash toward the side of the car, on your right if you're laying on your back.

At least I think so.

I got it its on the passangers side.
I install it and I have check engine light, but there is a clicking noise when trying to start the car. And the speedo when crazy.....
it when from 0-140 + to the other side of 0? lol
Whats the problem now?
Do you have to wire up the stock injectors according to the colors?
Also Does the deadend clip have to line back up as before, or can you connect one to one, the order doesn't matter?


b18. 11-15-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
That sounds like a ground issue.

Check resistance in the thermostat ground/ chassis.

inthad 11-15-2008 07:58 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
That sounds like a ground issue.

Check resistance in the thermostat ground/ chassis.

The ground to the thermostat is in good.
check resistance on thermostat?
I check the ground/ chassis? where are they at
There are the thermostat, a/c fan, motor chassis near the fan. thats it right

b18. 11-15-2008 08:01 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
You just stick a multimeter lead on the thermostat housing and the other on the chassis to check how many ohms of resistance there are between them.

Should also check the resistance between the ground terminal and the terminal cable.

inthad 11-15-2008 08:05 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
You just stick a multimeter lead on the thermostat housing and the other on the chassis to check how many ohms of resistance there are between them.

Should also check the resistance between the ground terminal and the terminal cable.

alright, i'l check that tomorrow.

but for the stock injector wires and deadend clip. does it matter what wires goes where? any order?

b18. 11-15-2008 08:09 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
I think that it should be fine to have them all connected to the same box, it's just a resistor.

You can either do in-line resistors or a box.

inthad 11-16-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
I think that it should be fine to have them all connected to the same box, it's just a resistor.

You can either do in-line resistors or a box.

alright , i found a loose ground. that is fixed
replace the main relay , try to start it and the check engine light flashes(weak flash) and don't hear the fuel pump prime
It cranks but doesn't start
???

b18. 11-16-2008 04:39 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
Check with the multimeter if the fuel pump is getting voltage, if so take it out and test it.

Basic troubleshooting man.

inthad 11-22-2008 07:33 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
alright, the hard part is done.
the car starts up and good to go.

So what am I suppose to look for? How do I know its fully functional.
is the bov suppose to work then you gas the pedal?
my vac is at like 17

or does it have to have a load?

t_cel_t 11-22-2008 08:54 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
the turbo will not make any boost in neutral unless your revving the ---- out of it, there has to be load.

inthad 11-22-2008 08:56 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
but my vac is at 17, is that normal?

Magik123 11-22-2008 10:36 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
my car holds about 20"hg at idle but 17-18 really isnt low vacuum. Check for any leaks if ur worried about it.

inthad 11-27-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Turbo installl, but car won't start
 
the car drives fine, but i'm dont have a complete downpipe
just enough to push the exhaust under the car.
Its smokey when I start the car, is that normal?
I don't see any leak or anything.
just white smoke, is it because of the downpipe not complete?
is this drivable to the exhaust shop to get the downpipe finish. its about 25 mins.
thanks


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