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hondaaccord 11-29-2005 12:11 PM

turbo 240 sx
 
i was wondering if anyone would think it is worth the time or if it will work at all to twin turbo a 240sx with 2 small turbos so they spool up fast but still will flow lots of air since there is 2 of them compared to big turbo and it has a 2.4 liter.

90dx 11-29-2005 02:24 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
No.Just install a nice size single and be done with it.

JeenYus 11-29-2005 04:21 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
^^ Right on... :y

90dx 11-30-2005 12:07 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
Also good call on not doing a mad JDM swap.---- putting a smaller engine in boost your K24 and make some real power.

stillnoturbo 11-30-2005 06:31 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
1 snail 2 two snails... who ------- cares. Just boost the damn thing and be done with it. ::)

drunkinmaster1 11-30-2005 08:42 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
the 240 doesnt have a flat 4, so it whould be pretty pointless to do a tt setup. single turbo setup is better anyways. thats why owners of tt supras go single.

stillnoturbo 11-30-2005 11:11 AM

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That made no sense. Why does it have to be a flat 4 to be twin turbo'd? ------- noobs are getting more ignorant as time goes on. You sure you can slap a big fatty snail but like most high HP supra's have a retarded power curve and don't see power till like 10 billion rpm's. Atleast with the stock setup you can get some usable power along with most stock TT setups.

turboDA6 11-30-2005 12:13 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by 90dx
Also good call on not doing a mad JDM swap.---- putting a smaller engine in boost your K24 and make some real power.

yeah! you can only make real power on a truck engine. honda 1.6 wont do it, b series 1.8 wont do it. b20 2.0 wont do it, h22 2.2 wont do it... only the real hardcore 2.4 will do it... you ------ retard. a ka24de is madtyte jdm as well... just not in the 240sx. dont ever buy the sr20, you'll never make any power on that thing... 2.4 all da way!

90dx 11-30-2005 12:40 PM

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The K24 makes more torque.That is what i mean by real power.SR20 will make lots o power not saying it wont but it does not make as usable of power.

ochizon 11-30-2005 06:12 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
That made no sense. Why does it have to be a flat 4 to be twin turbo'd? ------- noobs are getting more ignorant as time goes on.

He didnt say that it HAS to be a flat 4, I think he just means that a TT on a 4 cyl is generally considered inferior to a single turbo setup, and the only case where it makes some sense it on a flat 4 because of the exhaust setup.

You dont have to be such a dick in the way you respond to people, especially when you obviously dont even take the time to read through the posts properly.

Importordomestic 11-30-2005 06:30 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
I am not a NIssan guy. BUT i would agree with boosting the stock 2.4L, byt the time you invest for the JDM swap and build the motor you could have built 2 2.4L motors.

Kinda on the same subject: I read somewhere that the stock motr in the 240sx didnt like mad boost even if built something like the main caps would blow apart? I dontknow if that is true. im sure arp studs would fix that. also i would only boost the DOHC 240 motors. not the single. Then again i could be talking out of my ass...sorry.

Loserkidwac 11-30-2005 09:10 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
I believe one of the guys around here is boosting a RB25 in his 240 and making some good power...I'm not really into nissans so i'm not 1005 sure but i think those motors were fairly cheap...

hondaaccord 11-30-2005 09:14 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
thanks for the info and this isnt actually my car it is my friends and i had to talk him into keeping the ka24 and turboing it. but we were just wondering about the twin turbo thing. it dosent matter my car will still be faster

turboDA6 12-01-2005 01:54 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by Importordomestic
I am not a NIssan guy. BUT i would agree with boosting the stock 2.4L, byt the time you invest for the JDM swap and build the motor you could have built 2 2.4L motors.

Kinda on the same subject: I read somewhere that the stock motr in the 240sx didnt like mad boost even if built something like the main caps would blow apart? I dontknow if that is true. im sure arp studs would fix that. also i would only boost the DOHC 240 motors. not the single. Then again i could be talking out of my ass...sorry.

ka24de + being built + proper management + large turbo + manifold + oil lines = a ---- load

sr20det swap = 2,000 in my area... thats cheaper then any built ka24de + proper everything else... the sr20det with boost set at 14psi on stock everything will give you more then enough joy to be satisifed n kno it will last because the motors made for it. ka24de's are nice motors for boost when u got some doe to spend.

if i was to boost a ka it would be the sohc. from what ive seen, it creates some really really good power.


I believe one of the guys around here is boosting a RB25 in his 240 and making some good power...I'm not really into nissans so i'm not 1005 sure but i think those motors were fairly cheap...
rb25det fairly cheap?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...17878145QQrdZ1

3500 + shipping + gettin it to fit = a butt load... fun when its done though...

90dx 12-01-2005 03:04 AM

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Im not knocking the SR in any way I just find alot of these guys are obsessed with JDM and if its not from Japan it must be junk.Basically the same as some of the Honda Tech crew.I actually am doing a SR swap for a local guy in about a month.I was trying to convince him to go K24 turbo in his car but he wont listen to me.You are right though the SR is cheaper as even when you factor in the parts for swapping like gaskets,new waterpump etc etc the cost would have been quite a bit more to do a proper K24 turbo.Is there any little things I should look out for when doing his swap as I have not done a Nissan swap before.I gave him a list of odds and ends to replace as now is the time to do seals,clutch, etc while its out rather than later when it's installed.

Reddy 12-01-2005 09:34 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
rb25det fairly cheap?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...17878145QQrdZ1

3500 + shipping + gettin it to fit = a butt load... fun when its done though...


Lol, you can get RB25's for way cheaper than that, your paying for a front clip in that auction. :-\ My friend got his RB25 and did the entire swap for under $3,000. Stock boost with absolutely nothing done but just dropping in the RB25 it ran a 12.5 in regular street tires. IMO an RB25 is the only way to go for a 240.

mycrx 12-01-2005 09:51 AM

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keep what you have stock and boost it, should be around the same price as a hmt kit for a honda, the nissian ecu's r chippable as well arnt they?

turboDA6 12-01-2005 10:41 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
keep what you have stock and boost it, should be around the same price as a hmt kit for a honda, the nissian ecu's r chippable as well arnt they?

chippable for around 700 dollars... for JWT ecu..

only things you need to look out for on the swap are the obvious. n that weird tube that comes off the downpipe will hit the steering rod. you have to take it off from what i hear. i changed my dp elbow so it didn't have that anymore. and ur wiring. theres some pin changes needed for ur cluster to opporate.

and for the rb25 swap. u basically need the clip cuz of the cross member unless you buy some 1200 dollar mounts for the 240sx cross member, + drive shaft + all ur wiring n so forth. i wish i could afford an rb25, i woulda done it but if i go that high might as well do the rb26 ???

Reddy 12-01-2005 10:51 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
and for the rb25 swap. u basically need the clip cuz of the cross member unless you buy some 1200 dollar mounts for the 240sx cross member, + drive shaft + all ur wiring n so forth. i wish i could afford an rb25, i woulda done it but if i go that high might as well do the rb26 ???


omg are you serious? :l Mounts do not cost $1200, you can do wiring yourself, its not that hard and any local shop can cut your driveshaft to size its not like its some exotic process. :-\ Your trying to make a simple swap sound complicated and expensive when its really not.

turboDA6 12-01-2005 11:48 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
all im saying is if a rb25 swap was that simple n cheap then everyone would be doing it...

hondaaccord 12-01-2005 12:08 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
man this really kind of changed topics

Loserkidwac 12-01-2005 12:19 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
Ha ha I guess i brough up the RB25 but, the guys car is amazing and as whitey said he did it for fairly cheap...Whitey have any vids from the burnout fest of his car? or the church parking lot donut competiton ha ha

Reddy 12-01-2005 12:42 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by turboDA6
all im saying is if a rb25 swap was that simple n cheap then everyone would be doing it...


Maybe everyone isn't doing the swap becuase they hear from people on the internet that the swap costs a shitton of money when in reality it doesn't. So than people hear this misinformation from people without experience, get scared and settle for an SR20DET. Than everyone now has SR20's and continue to ------ misinformation by saying "if it was that cheap and easy everyone would be doing it." All I know is that an RB25 swap is probably as hard as a H22 swap in a Civic (which isn't that difficult). But thats just my guess ;)


Originally Posted by Loserkidwac
Ha ha I guess i brough up the RB25 but, the guys car is amazing and as whitey said he did it for fairly cheap...Whitey have any vids from the burnout fest of his car? or the church parking lot donut competiton ha ha


Nope, all those vids are on Knarr's camera. :'( I even have old videos where me and House both had the Supras out blowing out the tires. But its on regular VHS, not digital so I can't post them. Best Houseknect quote: "Yeah Grandma I go to church 5 or 6 times a week" lol ;D


Loserkidwac 12-01-2005 12:48 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

Nope, all those vids are on Knarr's camera. :'( I even have old videos where me and House both had the Supras out blowing out the tires. But its on regular VHS, not digital so I can't post them. Best Houseknect quote: "Yeah Grandma I go to church 5 or 6 times a week" lol ;D

Ha ha thats great...I do have the ability to put VHS video onto my computer if you ever want to make a dvd out of those...and well we'll never see the video Knarr has although i did like when i was behind you with him hanging out the window and all i could see was some red glow from your brake lights through all the white smoke >:D

sushi 12-03-2005 08:28 AM

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I still haven't seen house's 240. All I hear are stories... I definately want to see it when I come home. Hook it up Whitey. (Along with that turbo civic race if you can)

Loserkidwac 12-04-2005 10:41 AM

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Sushi you from b-town??

Reddy 12-04-2005 11:17 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 

Originally Posted by Loserkidwac
Sushi you from b-town??


Its Erin Vaness

ZC4ME 12-04-2005 11:45 AM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
Wow, don't know how I missed this thread. I like everybody else think TT-ing the KA is a retarded idea. Yea, it would be really cool to see and would draw mad attention if your buddy is a show go-er (which I have no problem with) but it truly would not be worth the effort/cost. Turboing the KA is a matter of opinion I guess. I personally don't like the way the KA revs, yea it does make good torque in boosted form, but you get that from truck motors. I would be more inclined to pull a trailor with my 240 than I would my Ranger :P I choose to go with the SR not because it was mad tyte jdm, but because it was an affordable, easy, viable solution for boosting my car, making more power and making it fun to drive. I thought hard about doing the RB swap and it wasn't really the cost that swayed me from it, it was the fact that the SR has way more support (as far as parts) here in the states than the RB does. That does not mean that those circumstances will not change because back when I first started thinking about doing the SR swap (before most of the noObs on here had their license) there was minimal support as far as parts go. That has changed dramatically. Once I finish the swap in my fastback..I would love to be able to afford the go out and buy a coupe and do and RB swap in that. I really should be out in the garage working on my ---- right now, but shoveling the snow from the driveway and watching the game own me :P

Just remember.....OPINIONS are like ASSHOLES, everbody has one, ultimately what you want to do is up to you, who gives A ---- about what a bunch of people on the internet think. So take everything you read with a grain of salt and just because somebody on the internet thinks they know it all and have done it all......well ::)

90dx 12-04-2005 03:31 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
You pretty muched summed it up there.Is there any difference from the blacktop to the redtop?I was getting a parts list ready for a local that im doing a SR20 swap for and he says he can get a blacktop from a S14 for only a couple hundred more.I was doing some reaserch but I found little info in regards to the diff between them.

turboDA6 12-04-2005 03:46 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
putting a s14 motor into a s13 is a bit different then a regular sr20 swap. the s14 motor has this weird vtc ---- but comes with a better turbo. there is a redtop n blacktop s13 sr20det then s14 was all blacktop except for the non-turbo sr20de... make sure u do more research before gettin the 14 motor. it bolts n the same n everything the wiring is just different then your average sr swap.

90dx 12-04-2005 03:58 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
That is exactly what i was concerned about.There is alot of variants of SR out there it seams from all the different models,years etc.I really would just prefer the S13 one as that looks like a really easy straightforwad swap.The wiring info i found is basically you use the full uncut SR harness and add 4-6 wires depending on if your keeping AC or not.I told him to get a XS/Shitchrome front mount kit as it looks cheap and effective,Wlabro pump,a full exhaust setup from turbo back and some maintenace stuff like waterpump,rear main seal,front crank seal etc.Any thing you see I have missed?

Edit also new clutch kit and electric fan were on the list.

turboDA6 12-04-2005 04:34 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
your gonna have to extend the maf wiring i believe n thats about it. n you need to make some kinda extension for the coolent hoses that lead to the firewall because jdm = rhd n the heater core is on the other side. its still an easy swap.

hondaaccord 12-04-2005 05:32 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
i am pretty sure that the sr20det has forged internals but does the non turbo model also have forged internals

NAsucks 12-04-2005 05:44 PM

Re: turbo 240 sx
 
The VTC is not that complicated My GA16DE has it and all it does is advance the timing at low RPMS and at Redline to encourage a shift. Its not like hondas and has different lobes and computers it just runs off of oil pressure. circa Hanes manual for 1993 Nissan Sentra. IF your still hungup on the Idea of TT you can probably find and rebuild (if necessary) two TD05's for around $250-$300 Max and two of them is what nissan used on the 3.0 V6. Since your doing it yourself the world is your oyster you don't have to complie with anyones thoughts or constraints just deal with physics and mother nature if you blow it up. Alright I'm done! DL


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