Trying to peice kit together, looking for some advice and a little guidance
 

This is my guesstimate for everything/most everything

used turbo with little or no shaft play prob a 14b (dsm), maybe t-25?? or t3?? $150ish
dsm 450's $60
johnnyracer intercooler $155
Oil lines ebay $70
ic piping $100
bov (dsm, other used, or cheap ebay) $50
hf manifold $100
p28 chipped $175
obd2-1 conversion harness $75
Downpipe custom..... for 97 civic ex (d16y8) $125 I really have no idea on this one, any guesses guys?
manual boost controller $25
boost gauge + a/f guage $100
Dyno tuned (by tuner, not me) with uber on chipped ecu $200-300 (if ecu already has a basemap?) tuned to about 10 psi or 200 whp
random fittings and misc. $50

about $1535
I forget something major? All this sound resonable for prices and for about 10 psi and/or 200whp? any input would be great.

thanks guys, I look forward to this being a possibility and at least learning as much as I can along the way

thanks,
RKSskier

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theres nothing really special about them at all. the only time I'd ever suggest them is if you just blew up all your factory pistons and dont have much money (cant afford forged) to go with them. They are just like factory stock cast pistons.

If you want to build your engine, you may want to look into getting some forged pistons. SRP's are about the cheapest on the market for standard bore slugs.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wisec...QQcmdZViewItem

This would be a great low buck setup to run a decent amount of boost in your D16.

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its not that I think they are better quality than oem, or even as good for that matter. The thing that interests me is the low compression part of it. I just would like to boost as much as I can for the least amount of money..... and if these would allow me to bump up the psi over stock and get a little more hp, then it could be worth it.

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"This would be a great low buck setup to run a decent amount of boost in your D16."

those would be ok, except they are for a block that is bored .02 over, and if I am not mistaken dont you need to notch to use ls rods in a d16? So they may be better, but prob not cheaper.

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You have to notch the block in a D16 to run anything other than stock factory rods.

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ghettoturbo says: "I ran crower I beams in my d16 and didn't have to notch the block"

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I ran crowers and I had to notch my zc block (well in order for me to sleep at night anyways) I cant imagne the ls rods required block notching.

As far as these pistons, there is no benifit with them, If you lower the compression your just going to have to turn up the boost to compensate. all stock D-series are at a perfect compression ratio for boost. Reguardless its the rods that will fail before the pistons will break (unless you dont know how to tune) your looking around max 250ish whp on stock d rods.

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I am planning on turboing my d16y8 with 120xxx (runs strong) and would like to do somewhere in the 9 psi to 10.5/11 psi to get around 200 whp. I am contemplating either the afc hack or going obd1 with uberdata. I am on a limited budget (well who isn't) and could easily end up with some dsm parts... 450cc injectors, and maybe a 14b or t25 as well. From what I have gathered it would appear that with either the hack or uber 200 is a resonable goal, but the other idea that has been brewing in the back of my mind is to add some internals and up the boost, something a similar setup but with uberdata and pistons, rods, camshaft, and arp head studs.

So do you guys think that 200 whp is reasonable with the first setup? <----- Hoping for $1500 tuned

And if I were to do the cam pistons rods headstuds and use uber, could I have around 250 whp? <------- would most likely come later after the initial setup, and then add parts, and get tuned again, would probally be 6 months after turbo was first put on.

So what turbo do you guys reccomend? I would like something that can spool quick enough to still be able to do swift, precise downshift (basically something that would be good for autoxing) and will never need more than 250.... (most likely a turbo that can do 200 whp will be plenty)

any advice would be appreciated, I am pretty new to FI
thanks
Ryan

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200whp can eaisly be done on all stock internals, Here is one of HMT's most "solid" setups

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=16133.0

This was the original thread, its been tuned with uberdata and 450cc dsm injectors. It has ran 12.6 @ 107mph in the 1/4 mile, and makes 230whp/208tq. It's been running for almost 2 years on a stock internaled engine. He drives this thing everyday and beats the crap out of it. The only thing I think I would have done a bit different in that setup would be getting a slightly larger turbo, but thats just my preference.

If you want a built engine, do it all at once. Rods/Pistons etc etc. After you get bored with 200-240whp on the stock engine just start saving money.

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This is my guesstimate for everything/most everything

used turbo with little or no shaft play prob a 14b (dsm), maybe t-25?? or t3?? $150ish
dsm 450's $60
johnnyracer intercooler $155
Oil lines ebay $70
ic piping $100
bov (dsm, other used, or cheap ebay) $50
hf manifold $100
p28 chipped $175
obd2-1 conversion harness $75
Downpipe custom..... for 97 civic ex (d16y8) $125 ?????? I really have no idea on this one, any guesses guys?
manual boost controller $25
boost gauge + a/f guage $100
Dyno tuned (by tuner, not me) with uber on chipped ecu $200-300 (if ecu already has a basemap?) tuned to about 10 psi or 200 whp
random fittings and misc. $50

about $1535
I forget something major? All this sound resonable for prices and for about 10 psi and/or 200whp? any input would be great.

thanks guys, I look forward to this being a possibility and at least learning as much as I can along the way

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used turbo with little or no shaft play prob a 14b (dsm), maybe t-25?? or t3?? $150ish:
About right, but go with the t3. more option for upgrades
dsm 450's $60:
About right also
johnnyracer intercooler $155:
Or a CCA Group Buy for 130.00
Oil lines ebay $70:
Uh Hu!
ic piping $100:
Can be done alot cheaper, but if you buy a kit yes
bov (dsm, other used, or cheap ebay) $50:
Can almost be free if you know whre to go!
hf manifold $100:
Hey if you want to buy my HF for 100.00 it's your right now!
p28 chipped $175
If your buy the whole ECU ya about
obd2-1 conversion harness $75
Yup
Downpipe custom..... for 97 civic ex (d16y8) $125 ?????? I really have no idea on this one, any guesses guys?
Man you could buy a fluxcore welder an do it yourself for about this price.
manual boost controller $25:
Can make it cheaper then that
boost gauge + a/f guage $100
Can be less and this AIN'T GONNA DO YOU ----!

Dyno tuned (by tuner, not me) with uber on chipped ecu $200-300 (if ecu already has a basemap?) tuned to about 10 psi or 200 whp
Can buy the equipment and be able to do it yourself for the rest of the time for the same price
random fittings and misc. $50
Good to work this in.

All in ll you pretty close, but can ave some money in some places.

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I try to be on the higher side when estimating, becuase If i look at the cheapest way for each item, and plan on a $700 complete out the door and start buying ---- and then it adds up to be more, then it would suck to be stranded without enough $$ to finish it off.

So what do you think for a custom dp by a shop?
hf manifold what you think? (with adapter for turbo included)
most importantly I want to find an approriate turbo, and one that is in good shape, as well as a good tune.

with uberdata and a basemap going in, how much you think it would be to get a GOOD tune?

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Your prices are pretty close, It costs whatever it costs man. Just shop around. A kit can be anywhere from 400 dollars using a used turbo and hf manifold to over 3000 dollars using a ball bearing turbo and equal length manifold. It's entire up to you and how good you can score deals. Some exhaust shops might charge 40 bucks for a downpipe, some might charge 150. It just really depends on to many things. But your parts list looks fine, just start collecting your parts.

As far as the engine management side. Just buy the 135 dollars Chipped ECU from xenocron, it comes with a Basemap so you should be good to go. If you want to get it tuned later on you will need to find a tuner in your area or buy a chip burner/wideband and learn how to do it yourself.

Just keep doing research.